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I think I am the One; what advice do you have for my salvation?

Gottservant

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Hi there,

So I am not sure why I am writing this. Obviously I don't need to answer whether I am the one any more than the next guy, that is not the point. The point is say I am (the One), of something (you may imagine what) - what advice do you have for my salvation? I mean they make movies about this stuff right, but whoever has a philosophy about it? One of the reasons the matrix was so popular is that not only was Neo the One, he was surrounded in the philosophically imaginary potential of the Matrix, which was a kind of realization of the ideal of the life of the One, as ordinary people perceive it to be, in an instance where they doubt...

It's not necessarily a mature question, I understand that, it is more designed to just work out what a mature question would be, how would you frame the life of the One philosophically such that you could advise him, such that you could advise anyone? What is it that the One has? Is the spiritual potential of life in general such that anyone with a sufficient gift can catalyze it? Even transform it?

How would you advise the One?
 
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Hi there,

So I am not sure why I am writing this. Obviously I don't need to answer whether I am the one any more than the next guy, that is not the point. The point is say I am (the One), of something (you may imagine what) - what advice do you have for my salvation? I mean they make movies about this stuff right, but whoever has a philosophy about it? One of the reasons the matrix was so popular is that not only was Neo the One, he was surrounded in the philosophically imaginary potential of the Matrix, which was a kind of realization of the ideal of the life of the One, as ordinary people perceive it to be, in an instance where they doubt...

It's not necessarily a mature question, I understand that, it is more designed to just work out what a mature question would be, how would you frame the life of the One philosophically such that you could advise him, such that you could advise anyone? What is it that the One has? Is the spiritual potential of life in general such that anyone with a sufficient gift can catalyze it? Even transform it?

How would you advise the One?

There is a 'the One', that one is Jesus. See but Jesus did not come here to show us how to be 'the One', He came here to serve.


Matthew 20:1-16

“For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. 2“When he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius for the day, he sent them into his vineyard. 3“And he went out about the third hour and saw others standing idle in the market place; 4and to those he said, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right I will give you.’ And so they went. 5“Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did the same thing. 6“And about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing around; and he said to them, ‘Why have you been standing here idle all day long?’ 7“They said to him, ‘Because no one hired us.’ He said to them, ‘You go into the vineyard too.’

8“When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last group to the first.’ 9“When those hired about the eleventh hour came, each one received a denarius. 10“When those hired first came, they thought that they would receive more; but each of them also received a denarius. 11“When they received it, they grumbled at the landowner, 12saying, ‘These last men have worked only one hour, and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden and the scorching heat of the day.’ 13“But he answered and said to one of them, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong; did you not agree with me for a denarius? 14‘Take what is yours and go, but I wish to give to this last man the same as to you. 15‘Is it not lawful for me to do what I wish with what is my own? Or is your eye envious because I am generous?’ 16“So the last shall be first, and the first last.”


Matthew 20:25-28
But Jesus called them to Himself and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their great men exercise authority over them. 26“It is not this way among you, but whoever wishes to become great among you shall be your servant, 27and whoever wishes to be first among you shall be your slave; 28just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many

Jesus also did NOT do HIS WILL, but His Father's will.

John 4:33-34
So the disciples were saying to one another, "No one brought Him anything to eat, did he?" 34Jesus said to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to accomplish His work.

John 5:19-20
"Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner. 20"For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself is doing; and the Father will show Him greater works than these, so that you will marvel."

John 8:28

"Jesus therefore said, 'When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and I do nothing on My own initiative, but I speak these things as the Father taught Me,'"
 
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Hi there,

So I am not sure why I am writing this. Obviously I don't need to answer whether I am the one any more than the next guy, that is not the point. The point is say I am (the One), of something (you may imagine what) - what advice do you have for my salvation? I mean they make movies about this stuff right, but whoever has a philosophy about it? One of the reasons the matrix was so popular is that not only was Neo the One, he was surrounded in the philosophically imaginary potential of the Matrix, which was a kind of realization of the ideal of the life of the One, as ordinary people perceive it to be, in an instance where they doubt...

It's not necessarily a mature question, I understand that, it is more designed to just work out what a mature question would be, how would you frame the life of the One philosophically such that you could advise him, such that you could advise anyone? What is it that the One has? Is the spiritual potential of life in general such that anyone with a sufficient gift can catalyze it? Even transform it?

How would you advise the One?

I'd say...

Keep taking your meds "One".
 
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Hello. Lets reason together.
Could you please explain why he who creates within this universe is greater than god?

Because not only do you know Heaven, you have created it for someone else.

God creates Heaven, but He does not create it for anyone.

Therefore if you create for someone else, you are greater (though not without God, so clearly you cannot boast).
 
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Because not only do you know Heaven, you have created it for someone else.

God creates Heaven, but He does not create it for anyone.

Therefore if you create for someone else, you are greater (though not without God, so clearly you cannot boast).

Are you suggesting that giving birth is greater than god creTing man?
 
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Are you suggesting that giving birth is greater than god creTing man?

Giving birth is as great, as creating the universe - you do not actually create a child within the Universe, but "merely" in addition to it.

If you could be born again, that would be creating a child within the Universe and therefore greater than creating the Universe - so you see, I am affirming that there is a greatness to the hierarchy of spiritual existence, which does not exist without taking what God has created and creating more (and indeed more than simply more).

I don't want to debate this at length, it is not a point of contention for me. I have clearly not said "such that man may boast", so I don't imagine you have any scriptural interpretation which would limit the impact of my words.
 
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Cant you see your taking the glory away from god. If you dont want to continue this point then why start something you cant finish?

Please answer my question.

How could you know beauty without ugliness?

you didn't listen to what I said, I said "it doesn't mean you can boast, because without God you would still be nothing"

all I said was, there is a difference between creating the universe and creating something while living within it

if you cannot understand that, why would I want to debate with you?
 
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you didn't listen to what I said, I said "it doesn't mean you can boast, because without God you would still be nothing"

all I said was, there is a difference between creating the universe and creating something while living within it

if you cannot understand that, why would I want to debate with you?

I think you mean read not listen.

you dont seem to make much sense. Can we start all over. What religion are you?
 
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