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I don't think Paul Washer can be trusted.

I only have to read your username to find how comically fitting this comment is.

^_^

In all seriousness, he's telling us to listen to Jesus Christ and the Bible, I'm sorry can you elaborate on why he shouldn't be trusted?

Please don't be basing this off of YOUR instinct, our human instincts are awful and can't be trusted.
 
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I only have to read your username to find how comically fitting this comment is.

^_^

In all seriousness, he's telling us to listen to Jesus Christ and the Bible, I'm sorry can you elaborate on why he shouldn't be trusted?

Please don't be basing this off of YOUR instinct, our human instincts are awful and can't be trusted.

instincts are the opposite of awful. we all lack the knowledge to go probelm free. instincts are just insurance.

remember what obi-wan said: "Luke, trust your feelings."
 
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instincts are the opposite of awful. we all lack the knowledge to go probelm free. instincts are just insurance.

remember what obi-wan said: "Luke, trust your feelings."

The Bible will never tell you to trust your feelings.
 
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The Force does, as taught by Yoda, and if that isn't a reliabe source then i don't know what is.

Apaarently someone needs to watch The Original Trilogy again.
No, you forget the third side of the force, Chuck Norris.

But on a serious note, I didn't watch this thing because I knew what he was getting at, and I think we really need to know this message, so that we don't fall into false teachings, nor start false teachings, nor forget what a false fruit looks like and what a good fruit is, and what fruit is.
 
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No, you forget the third side of the force, Chuck Norris.

But on a serious note, I didn't watch this thing because I knew what he was getting at, and I think we really need to know this message, so that we don't fall into false teachings, nor start false teachings, nor forget what a false fruit looks like and what a good fruit is, and what fruit is.

Chuck Norris is nothing compared to Boba Fett.

Boba Fett is the Clint Eastwood of the Star Wars universe, and veryone knows Clint Eastwood > Chuck Norris.
 
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Paul washer in my mind is the equivalent of Marilyn Manson in the shock-rock community. He really takes things very far, and he speaks like you can earn salvation, which isn't true. Jesus loves us, and if you focus on him, then he'll heal you and correct you =)
 
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Paul washer in my mind is the equivalent of Marilyn Manson in the shock-rock community. He really takes things very far, and he speaks like you can earn salvation, which isn't true. Jesus loves us, and if you focus on him, then he'll heal you and correct you =)

explain and be specific
 
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explain and be specific

Well he himself admits that he doesn't want to honour men, but honour God, and he also admits to not being a popular pastor. So when I compared him to marlin mason, I was simply saying that as mason represents the most extreme of shock rock, Pastor Paul Washer represents an extreme of Christian.

In his sermons, he speaks of "the prayer of salvation" being worthless in the Christian journey, well he didn't phrase it like that, but he makes it sound worthless. The prayer of salvation wasn't featured in the Bible, it simply tells us to believe in Jesus, and believe that he rose from the dead as a requirement of salvation.

When I say he takes things very far, I mean that I feel like he successfully scares the viewer/listener, and I feel like he offers little hope to patch the hole he makes in your mind. After listening and watching his sermons I feel the need to be the perfect Christian, but it makes me focus on myself and not Jesus, which is also a trap, because you will always fail, because you can't be perfect.

When I said if you focus on Jesus you will simply change, I meant that from personal experience, if you look at Jesus, spend time in the word, think about him, and praise his name and pray regularly that eventually you will die to yourself and become a person who lives for Jesus, and by simply focusing on trying to get to know him you open your heart to change and allow him to come in.

--I need to go to Rugby training now, if you feel you want me to point to specific quotes and examples where Paul washer is over the top then say so--
 
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