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I see consol.Yes, it's a miracle...
But how do you see it in your mind?
Do you see dust swirling together to form the shape of a man?
Do you see a rib being lengthened and fleshed out to form a woman?
How do you see these miracles?
Sure. Because it is true.I've been struggling with this for years. Is anyone prepared to give an honest, clear explanation as to why they believe in creationism?
There is no observable evidence for evolution between kinds,
...it is an educated assumption, which in turn requires faith.
When you have no answer for something, call it a strawman!
Or fallacy, whatever buzzword you're comfortable with using to dodge the question at hand.
Something I suggest ALL atheist do...Maybe you could learn a little something about the subject before trying to critique it.
Can you give me an example of what you mean by "evolution between kinds?"There is no observable evidence for evolution between kinds, it is an educated assumption, which in turn requires faith.
If you're educated on the subject, which I would presume you would be, having the confidence to reply, why would you need one?Can you give me an example of what you mean by "evolution between kinds?"
Because we have the Holy Spirit of God for our teacher to guide us and lead us into all truth.What makes you so sure that your interpretation is correct anyway?
Because we have the Holy Spirit of God for our teacher to guide us and lead us into all truth.
If you're educated on the subject, which I would presume you would be, having the confidence to reply, why would you need one?
You'd obviously know what I was talking about.
I'd say I'm educated on the subject of evolution, yes. I'm not educated on this "evolution between kinds" thing you brought up. What does that mean?If you're educated on the subject, which I would presume you would be, having the confidence to reply, why would you need one?
You'd obviously know what I was talking about.
Well, a kind in a biblical sense would suggest, family.He's probably wondering what a kind is, as am I.
I think I get it. For example, Lions and Tigers would be part of some kind of "cat kind" or "feline kind" or something like that?Well, a kind in a biblical sense would suggest, family.
If you wanna put it in a sentence, a kind would be an entire group of a certain animal.
Pigeons, crows, seagulls, hawks, etc, are all the same kind, bird.
Technically, yes.I think I get it. For example, Lions and Tigers would be part of some kind of "cat kind" or "feline kind" or something like that?
Jesus is the Chief Cornerstone. In a building every stone is right and true when they line up with the cornerstone (level and plum). As a carpenter I know the further you get away from the cornerstone the more difficult it is to build your building.So do the faithful who's interpretation differs to yours, you can't all be right.
Well, a kind in a biblical sense would suggest, family.
If you wanna put it in a sentence, a kind would be an entire group of a certain animal.
Pigeons, crows, seagulls, hawks, etc, are all the same kind, bird.
The evolutionist idea is, that everything evolved from the same kind, as in, everything branched off from one source, one way or another.
Which can't really be proven, you can make assumptions and educated guesses, but it's not a proven fact.
Which is what I find funny, because it's as much as a religion, as anything else.
There seems to be different denominations of evolutionist, different beliefs within the community, arguments, and counter arguments, but the evidence that is there isn't enough to convict it.
Just like a religion.
And people adhere, and defend it, just like a religion.
In any case, evolution has little to nothing to do with Christians, if it's true, doesn't effect us one bit, if it's not, still doesn't effect us.
Nothing about evolution contradicts biblical doctrine.
I can concede mutations, and small changes occurring over time. We can observe this, we know this happens, we can't exactly prove it for ALL animals, but I know certain types of worms, and flies, tend to evolve rather quickly, and we've seen that happen. So I can concede to that.
But the small changes are not enough, and never will be enough, to constitute the diversity we see today.
And scientist say the earth isn't even as diverse as it once was.
I will however, not concede to something that is speculation, unless the speculation is founded in enough evidence to warrant my attention.
Which I find it to be not.
The bible isn't as complex as people would like to think.So do the faithful who's interpretation differs to yours, you can't all be right.
Would it matter?... you can't all be right.
Yes. As time goes on we get much better at classifying types of animals. I suppose I'd wonder what would warrant a lion and a tiger, or a pigeon and a hawk, to be of the same kind but not humans and chimps or bonobos.Technically, yes.
Any feline, no matter what kind of feline it is, would be under the feline category.
But you've gotta also understand how we define the feline, and the family all together.
Versus how we did back then.
For instance, bats was under the bird category. We didn't classify birds the same way back then, as we do now. To be under the bird category, it had to be winged, and fly.
now we classify it much differently, bats are mammals, not birds.
Whales would have been called fish, I would presume.
Very simplistic classing system, if it looked like a duck, and quacked like a duck, it was a duck.
See what I mean?
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