I start RCIA on Thursday

[Cright]

But as she said not everyone agrees with this, nor do they think of Mary this way. Why I stay away is because this kind of work was never tossed aside by the church, instead the guy is now a Saint.

And these whacked out theories are condemned by us, and we seperate ourselves from these doctrines and these people. There is a difference.

You are exactly right Uncle Bud!

To me this is a good witnissing tool too... when you can show all of the false things that people declared saints said, and it's not refuted by the CCC as they SHOULD do.. then they are letting false doctrins run rampant in some of the communities, instead of protecting their flock.

This is another good thing to point out when witnissing... just showing some dead Catholic guy said something wrong isn't enough.. but when you point out that no one corrected it, that does help!!

nice point!

Carina

 

[SumTinWong]

Love ya sister,

hey off topic, you are one day closer to being married... yee haaa!

 

[Paul S]

Yeah that is scary business, worshipping the creation right along with God, imo.

Just wondering... where in there did it say anything about worshipping Mary?

To Baptists, is service always worship?

 

[SumTinWong]

Just wondering... where in there did it say anything about worshipping Mary?

She got the impression from reading that hence the IMO.

To Baptists, is service always worship?

Once again she said IMO

 

[aReformedPatriot]

Just wondering... where in there did it say anything about worshipping Mary?

To Baptists, is service always worship?

Yes, I believe it is. We gather in the name of Christ, sing his praises, pray to him, and here a message from his word, plus we fellowship. All forms of worship.

Unless you are speaking of "servanthood" in which case this would also be true. God calls us to serve our brothers, and Him. In this He is exalted, so it is worship.

 

[Iollain]

Just wondering... where in there did it say anything about worshipping Mary?

To Baptists, is service always worship?

IMO, that 'veneration' thing with Mary is not a good idea. Have you ever read some of the things the people who were 'sainted' by the RCC wrote about Mary? I have, and it is not of God, imo.

 

[Iollain]

There are some pretty whacked out baptists with scary teachings too, even some that have a pretty large following. Fortunately they are not supported by a majority of baptists just like the scary teachings of some Catholics are not supported by the councils and Catechism of the Catholic Church.

Easy to say, but you can read for yourself what the people they have 'Sainted' have to say. If they check these people out so carefully, how could they miss it so often?

 

[Filia Mariae]

Lord's Envoy,

I hope you will find your study of the Faith to be edifying.

Those who would like to know what Catholics actually believe are most welcome to ask in OBOB anytime.

Pax Christi,
Carly

 

[Filia Mariae]

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This thread is being re-opened as the discussion is an important one.

Forum members after discussions with our brethern in OBOB we wanted to remind everyone that Catholics are indeed a Christian denomonation. They do not dedicate babies but rather baptize them in the name of the Father Son and Holy spirit.

Members please consider that your personal observations may be incorrect at times. Things may not be what they apear to be. Regardless making forward statements about other denomonations and what they beleive only leads to debate. I am asking you begging you pleading with you to please discuss Baptist and Anabaptist topics here.

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[Iollain]

If it causes PG and RedthatsMe that much grief, i'm not posting in this thread again

 

[SumTinWong]

nevermind... not worth it.

 

[ZiSunka]

I wish we could ask them questions and discuss the answers without them jumping all over us and telling us that their way is the only right way.

As long as we are not allowed to discuss their beliefs, we will never understand them.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I wish we could ask them questions and discuss the answers without them jumping all over us and telling us that their way is the only right way.

As long as we are not allowed to discuss their beliefs, we will never understand them.

I've never had a problem asking questions of Catholics and discussing things with them civilly.

 

[ZiSunka]

I've never had a problem asking questions of Catholics and discussing things with them civilly.

Good for you.

They are different with people who have never been catholic than they are with people who left the catholic church. They think there is a chance of converting you, but they realize there is little chance of reconverting me.

Also, you might always just accept their opinions and personal beliefs as being the doctrine of catholicism, but I always want them to show me where in their doctrine such and such is said, and they don't always know or don't like being challenged to compare their personal beliefs against the catechism or other writings, so they get angry. I've even gotten a threatening email, from a woman who posted in the old protestant forum. She had posted wondering if protestants carry pictures of their deceased loved ones in their wallets, and when several people answered that they do, she pounced and said that icons of the deceased saints are the same thing and that we ought not criticize. When I posted that icons are not photos of deceased saints, they are caricatures of people based on traditional characteristics and not actual likenesses, she PMed me and emailed me that she hated me and called me names (twit, I think, was one of them). Another one was a post a catholic made here saying that St Bernadette's body was perfectly preserved and showed no signs of deteriorating and that proved that she was a saint, it turned out that the "perfectly preserved body" was really a wax likeness applied over her badly deteriorated body. I called that fraud (which it is) and got half a dozen hate PMs.

The truth is, if you just accept everything they say as being gospel and don't compare it to the revealed truth of the Bible (or other truths, like the fact that Bernadette is not supernaturally preserved), then there are no problems, but as soon as you question what they say, they start calling it catholic bashing.

 

[Filia Mariae]

Lamb'sLove-

Consider this an open invitation to ask me about Catholic beliefs and discuss them with me, challenge me, whatever, any time, whether on a board or through PM.

Pax Christi,
Carly

 

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