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[ricecracker1989]

Okay, out of desperation, I'm looking for someone to respond. My boyfriend of almost a year, has decided that his religion is marijuana, lsd, dmt, and shrooms. I am a christian, and he knew that at the beginning of our relationship, and told me that he was too. Things were great, we had devotions together, prayed together, went to church together, he really seemed to have an interest in the things of God. A few months into the relationship, he told me that he lied about being a Christian just to be with me. Now he says that his spiritual experiences are through psychedelics. My opinion, natural or not, anything you do to alter your mind, and lose control of yourself is sinful. He says I wouldnt understand because I havent done it. I've smoked cannibis one time in my life, and there was nothing spiritual about it... and when it was over, I prayed and asked God for forgiveness. Ever since he has rejected God, he has fallen deeper and deeper into lies. He says that he is attracted to other men, and I should accept that and be ok with it because that's who is is. I love him, i really do, I pray for him all the time, but he is held by the chains of bondage that he's put on himself when he rejected God. When you reject Jesus, you forfeit the freedom He wants to give you. He's angry, and tells me all the time he's not happy. He lashes out at me, and curses at me. He's obviously unhappy in his ways. Now, many of you think I'm stupid for sticking around. He hasnt been faithful to me. I dont even really spend much time with him anymore, because it's very painful. He's told me I'm unintelligent and my mind is under evolved because of the things I believe. I cant fight his spiritual battles for him, I can only pray. I know God hears me, and I know God has a plan for his life. I'm asking for someone to please reach out. Has anyone one here done psychedelics in their past, and stopped for the sake of their faith? Has God changed your life? Please, someone please respond.

 

[opengate07]

At the age of 14 (now 56) I started on my road of mind altering substances. There is a list, but I will just offer a couple. Alcohol, Weed/Pot, Hash, Acid, Coke (not Cola). I will stop here because just wanted to give you an idea that I have been there before. It has been some 25-30 years since I've used anything and I have to give all the Glory to God. I know you love this person, but it is not up to you to release him from his bondage. He has a lifestyle that you need to break from because it will destroy you from within. Let God work on him if this is His will and you follow the path that God has set for you. Jesus loves you and you are beautiful in His eyes.
Just send me a PM if you would like to speak further. Click Link Below!
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[Chaplain David]

Hello,

I am sorry for the trouble you are having in this relationship. It does seem to be on a very rocky path largely because of the dishonesty of your boyfriend regarding his faith and fidelity to you. Not being on the same faith walk is huge and usually leads to problems in any relationship.

Sometimes one partner believes that they can change the other for the better but that's simply not possible. If your boyfriend is going to change the motivation must come from within him. You can only be responsible for your part of the relationship.

Clearly you know what you want out of the relationship but he does not seem to be interested in doing what is right by you. Premarital counseling conducted by your pastor might help. But not having the same values, his dishonesty, and your different faith walks are going to be very difficult to overcome.

I pray the very best for you.

Faithfully,
CH Sacerdote

 

[Dani K]

It is not your job to "fix" him.

Wish you the best

 

[ricecracker1989]

@ opengate, send me a PM please, Id like to speak to you. It wont let me PM you. thank you so much for your response

 

[ricecracker1989]

I look forward to hearing from you

 

[opengate07]

I just sent you a PM, if you are unable to receive it because you do not have enough Posts I would be glad to share my email addy with you. Just let me know what you prefer.

 

[Amrak]

He might change, but first you have to go, otherwise you'll probably end up the same. When you have a rotten tooth , pull it out, it may hurt for a while but you'll get over it. Be strong, use your brain and ignore your heart.

 

[Christian7PraiseJesus]

Okay, out of desperation, I'm looking for someone to respond. My boyfriend of almost a year, has decided that his religion is marijuana, lsd, dmt, and shrooms. I am a christian, and he knew that at the beginning of our relationship, and told me that he was too. Things were great, we had devotions together, prayed together, went to church together, he really seemed to have an interest in the things of God. A few months into the relationship, he told me that he lied about being a Christian just to be with me. Now he says that his spiritual experiences are through psychedelics. My opinion, natural or not, anything you do to alter your mind, and lose control of yourself is sinful. He says I wouldnt understand because I havent done it. I've smoked cannibis one time in my life, and there was nothing spiritual about it... and when it was over, I prayed and asked God for forgiveness. Ever since he has rejected God, he has fallen deeper and deeper into lies. He says that he is attracted to other men, and I should accept that and be ok with it because that's who is is. I love him, i really do, I pray for him all the time, but he is held by the chains of bondage that he's put on himself when he rejected God. When you reject Jesus, you forfeit the freedom He wants to give you. He's angry, and tells me all the time he's not happy. He lashes out at me, and curses at me. He's obviously unhappy in his ways. Now, many of you think I'm stupid for sticking around. He hasnt been faithful to me. I dont even really spend much time with him anymore, because it's very painful. He's told me I'm unintelligent and my mind is under evolved because of the things I believe. I cant fight his spiritual battles for him, I can only pray. I know God hears me, and I know God has a plan for his life. I'm asking for someone to please reach out. Has anyone one here done psychedelics in their past, and stopped for the sake of their faith? Has God changed your life? Please, someone please respond.

Get out fast!! What does "lashing out at you" mean?! And he's cursing you that is NOT good

In Britain, a person can get 7 years in PRISON for taking LSD and the reason is due to it causing violence-- the UN is also AGAINST drugs because of its links with crime (has statistics and research to back it up)

"Types of drugs

The maximum penalties for drug possession, supply (dealing) and production depend on what type or ‘class’ the drug is.
Class Drug Possession Supply and production

A Crack cocaine, cocaine, ecstasy (MDMA), heroin, LSD, magic mushrooms, methadone, methamphetamine (crystal meth) Up to 7 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both Up to life in prison, an unlimited fine or both

B Amphetamines, barbiturates, cannabis, codeine, methylphenidate (Ritalin), synthetic cannabinoids, synthetic cathinones (eg mephedrone, methoxetamine) Up to 5 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both Up to 14 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both

C Anabolic steroids, benzodiazepines (diazepam), gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB), gamma-butyrolactone (GBL), ketamine, piperazines (BZP) Up to 2 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both Up to 14 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both

Temporary None* None, but police can take away 
a suspected temporary class drug Up to 14 years in prison, an unlimited fine or both"
From the government UK website:
https://www.gov.uk/penalties-drug-possession-dealing



United Nations' Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention:

"...illicit drugs cause crime, illness, violence and death."

http://www.unodc.org/pdf/WDR_2006/wdr2006_volume1.pdf

(((Also, people can get immunocrompromised from drugs (they're a toxin) and get diseases from the dirty IVs that are spread though the bloodstream. If he then starts taking those kinds, then you could get HIV and AIDS from him, including other diseases (hepatitis C, e.g.). --- learned this from Microbiology. You wonder why most doctors and health professionals do not take drugs? Because it is UNhealthy.)))

According to the United Nations, higher amounts of drugs cause higher amounts of homicide and violence:

"El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Jamaica now have the world’s highest homicide rates as a result of drug-related activities, "

In its report, INCB provides recommendations to address drug-related violence which include the implementation of programmes on drug abuse prevention and treatment and rehabilitation services, as well as increasing the educational, employment and recreational opportunities available to marginalized communities."

United Nations News Centre - Drug-related violence has reached alarming levels in Central America – UN

According to sources (the little black box warnings) psychiatric drugs can cause violence as well.... which is not surprising to me since it is messing with a person's sympathetic and parasympathetic receptors in their nervous systems (that I learned in Physiology): http://www.cchrint.org/pdfs/Psychiatric_Drugs_Cause_Violence.pdf

So... I would get out fast! If he's already "lasting out at you" which could be physical or non-physical, and if he's attacking you verbally, it will probably only get worse because I am guessing you have not been with him for very long... and this could actually be his "be nice we are just starting to be with each other" phase... beyond that it could be even worse.

Crime, violence, "lasing out," cursing you... is not a good thing at all. It's not good for you OR him, so I'd say, end it and end it fast for your own well-being, confidence, self-esteem, and health AND his because it seems to me he would rather be alone and have a romantic relationship with his drugs and not you.

 

[ricecracker1989]

@ opengate... I was able to recieve your pm, but I couldnt reply since i dont have enough posts. can you send me a pm with your email address? I will email you. Thank you.

 

[ricecracker1989]

@christian7praisejesus...
ok, I get it, drugs can put you in jail and get you in trouble with the law. I'm well aware of that. Right now, the law is the least of my worries. If he gets locked up, it would probably be a blessing. I'm not going to jail because I dont allow the stuff around me, and if it is anywhere close, I remove myself from the situation. I'm a massage therapist, and I could lost my massage license if I ever got caught around that stuff... I'm not willing to risk my career for drugs. I dont live in the UK. My boyfriend needs prayer, and I'm not arguing the fact that I need to remove myself from the situation, but sometimes that's easier said than done. He needs Jesus, just like every one does.. and I have no doubt that one day God will change him and has a plan for his life. Whether or not I stay with him, or we move on, He still needs Jesus, and he needs to get away from the drugs. That will never change. We are all sinners in need of a savior, every last one of us. If you're not going to offer your prayers, with the love of Jesus in your heart, then dont preach to me, and please dont even pray for him. He needs genuine prayer.

 

[ricecracker1989]

regardless of what happens, Nothing is too big for God. It might take years, but I believe the change and healing will come. Im not saying I will stick around for the abuse, but I will always pray. Jesus said that if we pray, and believe that it will be done, we will recieve what we ask for, and I believe Jesus told the truth. I may not end up with him, but Jesus still died for him, and can save him from all bondage.

 

[Prayer Circle]

Okay, out of desperation, I'm looking for someone to respond. My boyfriend of almost a year, has decided that his religion is marijuana, lsd, dmt, and shrooms. I am a christian, and he knew that at the beginning of our relationship, and told me that he was too. Things were great, we had devotions together, prayed together, went to church together, he really seemed to have an interest in the things of God. A few months into the relationship, he told me that he lied about being a Christian just to be with me. Now he says that his spiritual experiences are through psychedelics. My opinion, natural or not, anything you do to alter your mind, and lose control of yourself is sinful. He says I wouldnt understand because I havent done it. I've smoked cannibis one time in my life, and there was nothing spiritual about it... and when it was over, I prayed and asked God for forgiveness. Ever since he has rejected God, he has fallen deeper and deeper into lies. He says that he is attracted to other men, and I should accept that and be ok with it because that's who is is. I love him, i really do, I pray for him all the time, but he is held by the chains of bondage that he's put on himself when he rejected God. When you reject Jesus, you forfeit the freedom He wants to give you. He's angry, and tells me all the time he's not happy. He lashes out at me, and curses at me. He's obviously unhappy in his ways. Now, many of you think I'm stupid for sticking around. He hasnt been faithful to me. I dont even really spend much time with him anymore, because it's very painful. He's told me I'm unintelligent and my mind is under evolved because of the things I believe. I cant fight his spiritual battles for him, I can only pray. I know God hears me, and I know God has a plan for his life. I'm asking for someone to please reach out. Has anyone one here done psychedelics in their past, and stopped for the sake of their faith? Has God changed your life? Please, someone please respond.

It's easy.
Ask yourself if he's the best you can do.

If God has plans for his life, you don't have to stick around for the ride to see how they unfold. He doesn't like you. If he did he wouldn't like abusing you.

Do you think God created you to suffer this?

I'd have been gone.

 

[Amrak]

Does God really have a plan to make him see the light and quit drugs or will he end up like 99% of addicts in prison/hospital/dead. Or is this really a lesson from God to you, to make you open your eyes and find the courage to do what you should do. Have you ever thought that your "help" is actually making him worse? Some alcoholics and addicts actually recover but only after reaching rock bottom, picking themselves up from the gutter, listening to a doctor telling them that they only have months to live. Addicts are scared of change, they are cowards, and they'll only change when they really have to. None of us can change their ways until they see it for themselves.
send me a PM and I'll give you more info.

 

[RuthD]

Praying for you and your friend. God bless you and heal you and him, too.

 

[ricecracker1989]

Sometimes it amazes me how ignorant people are. Addicts are not on cannibis, shrooms, dmt, or lsd. People that do these things dont usually do it on a daily or even weekly basis. With the exception of lsd, it's extremely hard to O.D. or die from any of those things. No doctor is going to tell him that he's going to die because he smokes weed, or does psychedelics once a month, and any doctor that says that is an idiot. This is not a matter of life and death or being addicted. I'd agree, it's affecting him, not just while he's on it, but off of it as well. As far as addiction, it's more of a psychological addiction, not a physical one. Before you attack someone you need to get your facts straight. And if you are going to tell me that praying for him is harming him, then there is no way you can call yourself a Christ follower. You want to tell me the problem lies within me, and the change that I know is going to happen at some point is just all in my head? Dont tell me how to hear the things God says to me.
I was hoping to get support from fellow Christians, and the body of Christ, but now I see why so many people are turned off to Christianity. There is more judgement, and people talking out of ignorance in the Christian body than there is anywhere else.
The reality is, I am going to continue praying for him, and believing that God will change him at some point. I never said I would stay with him, and the change may not even happen until years and years down the road. I may not even know where he is when it happens or have any contact with him, but the change and healing will come.
If you're not going to pray for him with me, true, genuine, loving prayer, then please dont pray at all.
The problem here is not a physical problem. It is a spiritual, emotional, mental problem. He is allowing satan in to control his life. I'm very disappointed, I had higher expectations from people who carry the name of Christ.

 

[ricecracker1989]

@ Ruth D, thank you so very much.

 

[Amrak]

I understand how you must feel. but don't shrug off shrooms, lsd, cannabis lightly, because they can be dangerous. A psychological addiction is even harder to quit than a physical addiction. (but we're all different and depends) It does sound like that this man needs help, not only from prayers, but to get back on the straight road. I will pray for him too.

 

[McMatt]

From what it sounds like, you are just simply not in a situation that is healthy for you. I'm not saying this because of the substances he uses (although the disagreement on that probably doesnt help), but mostly because of the lashing out and fidelity issue. I haven't really had any issues with psychedelics (I smoke cannabis frequently and never have any problems stopping), but about a year and a half ago I got into the wrong crowd at work and started doing a lot of blow. That was a huge vice for me and sometimes I couldn't even keep it longer than a night without it going up my nose. Half a year or so ago I finally kicked it, but it wasn't really a faith thing. For me quitting blow was more of a personal issue with having a sore nose and an empty wallet and faith was one of the many crutches I used to pull myself out of there.

Psychedelics are tricky - I know LSD can really mess up your head and I don't know much about DMT. If you two disagree on your faith and on his use of drugs, you honestly should get out. If that doesnt convince you, then definitely get out because of the fidelity problem. If you need anything else, feel free to PM me.

 

[audiologic]

Okay, out of desperation, I'm looking for someone to respond. My boyfriend of almost a year, has decided that his religion is marijuana, lsd, dmt, and shrooms. I am a christian, and he knew that at the beginning of our relationship, and told me that he was too. Things were great, we had devotions together, prayed together, went to church together, he really seemed to have an interest in the things of God. A few months into the relationship, he told me that he lied about being a Christian just to be with me. Now he says that his spiritual experiences are through psychedelics. My opinion, natural or not, anything you do to alter your mind, and lose control of yourself is sinful. He says I wouldnt understand because I havent done it. I've smoked cannibis one time in my life, and there was nothing spiritual about it... and when it was over, I prayed and asked God for forgiveness. Ever since he has rejected God, he has fallen deeper and deeper into lies. He says that he is attracted to other men, and I should accept that and be ok with it because that's who is is. I love him, i really do, I pray for him all the time, but he is held by the chains of bondage that he's put on himself when he rejected God. When you reject Jesus, you forfeit the freedom He wants to give you. He's angry, and tells me all the time he's not happy. He lashes out at me, and curses at me. He's obviously unhappy in his ways. Now, many of you think I'm stupid for sticking around. He hasnt been faithful to me. I dont even really spend much time with him anymore, because it's very painful. He's told me I'm unintelligent and my mind is under evolved because of the things I believe. I cant fight his spiritual battles for him, I can only pray. I know God hears me, and I know God has a plan for his life. I'm asking for someone to please reach out. Has anyone one here done psychedelics in their past, and stopped for the sake of their faith? Has God changed your life? Please, someone please respond.

First of all, this is a mistake that many (if not most) psychedelic users make...they believe that the drug is God. Regardless of whether or not it can induce a spiritual experience, if it's NEEDED to come in contact with the divine, then it's simply a mask for selfish drug abuse. I'm not here to debate whether they can be used for good or not; what I am saying is that even coming from someone with an open mind about these things, this is heinous. The "you wouldn't understand, you haven't done it" argument is also ridiculous, and an assumption that your mind operates in this addictive bubble like his does. I'm also not here to debate on homosexuality, but here's the deal:

1. He lied. That which is based on lies, thrives on lies. You will find out more and more about him that you do not like or agree with.

2. Your belief structures clearly don't match. I'm not going to say "He's not a Christian so he's wrong; dump him" but I WILL say that your faith is clearly important to you, and you have your convictions that it is truth. When you're as passionate and convinced of something as God, Christ, etc., being intimate with someone who clearly disagrees is going to cause tension, heartache, and looooots of stress. Plus, if you succumb to his wishes, you may find yourself falling from what saved you in the first place.

3. Unfaithful? The biggest killer. Not only is it nearly impossible to repair, it tends to repeat itself.

4. He curses, insults you, claims you don't understand. The more you stay, the more you believe him. He's got this idea that he's the cat, and you're the mouse - and he's got you where he wants you. It's not about you, or even "us"; it's about power.

5. You can talk to a person suffering from deep depression as much as you want, and it can often help, but NOTHING WILL CHANGE until they are determined to change. No matter how hard you try, you do not have the power to change them. It becomes a battle of will - your will for him may be strong, but his will for himself is equally stronger...and it is actually stronger as he governs his own actions. Ultimately, God's will determines reality.

Asking if anyone has stopped psychedelics for the sake of faith will not provide the answers, or guidance, you need....however, I will respond. While psychedelics don't compile the majority of my drug resume, I will speak on drug use in general: I'm not opposed to certain things, but I do not use them for a reason. I have an extensive history with drugs, including the abuse of many prescriptions, ecstasy, cocaine, crack, meth, acid, mushrooms, ketamine, mescaline, and others. I come from a very loving family who watched me destroy myself for years. Granted, I couldn't have done it without them; however, what stopped me was not their talks, or letters, or what have you. What stopped me was multiple hospital visits, depression, and finally realizing that I chose what path to take. This may not be what you want to hear - no one wants to see a loved one suffer. But the more you stick around, the more you cater to his manipulative "needs" and the more comfortable he'll be.

The truth is, in my opinion, if he's going to change, for one he needs to lose you. If it devastates him, it may be the catalyst to him realizing what he's done. If it doesn't bother him in the least, then you certainly deserve better, and he'll burn himself out eventually in other ways.

Also, take caution when dealing with the separation. Many times the "victim" will drop to their knees, cry, beg forgiveness, and of course you (having a tender heart) believe they are changed for good. This generally leads to the same painful situation you were in to begin with.

He lied, he's unfaithful, he has no respect for your beliefs or ethical ideas. Drop the guy. Don't hate him, but stay away.