I need help

[trentlogain2]

I'm looking for anything in The Bible that might have to do with learning about spiritual things and not ever even coming close to the threshold of what there is to know. The first thing that came to my mind when I asked myself this was Ecclesiastes, but vanity probably isn't it. (Though I can see how it could come to that)

The reason I ask this is because lately I've been delving into theologies such as conditional security/eternal security and free will/predestination and to be honest I don't want it to become an overload.

 

[MethoDiKaL]

be careful of where you read or take advice. we, as man, can only understand so much of the infinite of God. anything can be an overload if we look too hard. Good luck in your search.

 

[MARK777]

Best advice I can give from very recent spiritual experience is, dont try and interpret things in a way that aligns with what you think, or what others think, or what appeals most to you, because ultimately there is one truth, and that is the truth of God, so if you want to understand things in more depth, rather than looking to find ways of understanding what it is that you believe according to what you think you know, apply what you do know and let God strengthen and mold you in his time, our own volition can sometimes hinder the plan of God.

I say this is a recent spiritual experience personally because I was on a similar path, trying to decide what it is that I believe about certain doctrines etc, but the truth is, it does not really matter as such, in terms of our spiritual growth, unless something is hindering you or holding you back from growing, then it is best to ask God in prayer for answer to particular questions, sometimes it takes time to understand things properly, but you can take it from me that what seems like it doesnt make sense to start with, always ends up making more sense in the future, when you operate in Faith, I am by no means spiritually mature, but I do know for sure that the word of God is indeed alive and powerful, understand and apply this and let God work in your life, he promises to give us the answers we need to continue and the gifts to strengthen our Faith.

So to answer what I believe to be your question, the greatest thing that can hinder spiritual growth and understanding, is forming your own conclusion on what you think the spiritual life is about, without actually applying it to your life, because it only becomes a spiritual truth, when you have lived it.

Apply what you know, live it and grow.

Mark777

 

[trentlogain2]

Great advice. Thank you.

 

[Svt4Him]

Go to your pastor or a good Christian book store.

 

[Cris413]

Best advice I can give from very recent spiritual experience is, dont try and interpret things in a way that aligns with what you think, or what others think, or what appeals most to you, because ultimately there is one truth, and that is the truth of God, so if you want to understand things in more depth, rather than looking to find ways of understanding what it is that you believe according to what you think you know, apply what you do know and let God strengthen and mold you in his time, our own volition can sometimes hinder the plan of God.

I say this is a recent spiritual experience personally because I was on a similar path, trying to decide what it is that I believe about certain doctrines etc, but the truth is, it does not really matter as such, in terms of our spiritual growth, unless something is hindering you or holding you back from growing, then it is best to ask God in prayer for answer to particular questions, sometimes it takes time to understand things properly, but you can take it from me that what seems like it doesnt make sense to start with, always ends up making more sense in the future, when you operate in Faith, I am by no means spiritually mature, but I do know for sure that the word of God is indeed alive and powerful, understand and apply this and let God work in your life, he promises to give us the answers we need to continue and the gifts to strengthen our Faith.

So to answer what I believe to be your question, the greatest thing that can hinder spiritual growth and understanding, is forming your own conclusion on what you think the spiritual life is about, without actually applying it to your life, because it only becomes a spiritual truth, when you have lived it.

Apply what you know, live it and grow.

Mark777

 

[Cris413]

Pro 3:1 My son, do not forget my law,
But let your heart keep my commands;
Pro 3:2 For length of days and long life
And peace they will add to you.
Pro 3:3 Let not mercy and truth forsake you;
Bind them around your neck,
Write them on the tablet of your heart,
Pro 3:4 And so find favor and high esteem
In the sight of God and man.
Pro 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
And lean not on your own understanding;
Pro 3:6 In all your ways acknowledge Him,
And He shall direct your paths.

 

[jive4005]

Just some advice (worth what you paid for it!) ... read the scriptures with your heart and spirit... instead of your brain and reasoning power. It is the only wayI know of to unlock His true secrets and powers.

Happy '09

 

[guydon]

Best advice I can give from very recent spiritual experience is, dont try and interpret things in a way that aligns with what you think, or what others think, or what appeals most to you, because ultimately there is one truth, and that is the truth of God, so if you want to understand things in more depth, rather than looking to find ways of understanding what it is that you believe according to what you think you know, apply what you do know and let God strengthen and mold you in his time, our own volition can sometimes hinder the plan of God.

I say this is a recent spiritual experience personally because I was on a similar path, trying to decide what it is that I believe about certain doctrines etc, but the truth is, it does not really matter as such, in terms of our spiritual growth, unless something is hindering you or holding you back from growing, then it is best to ask God in prayer for answer to particular questions, sometimes it takes time to understand things properly, but you can take it from me that what seems like it doesnt make sense to start with, always ends up making more sense in the future, when you operate in Faith, I am by no means spiritually mature, but I do know for sure that the word of God is indeed alive and powerful, understand and apply this and let God work in your life, he promises to give us the answers we need to continue and the gifts to strengthen our Faith.

So to answer what I believe to be your question, the greatest thing that can hinder spiritual growth and understanding, is forming your own conclusion on what you think the spiritual life is about, without actually applying it to your life, because it only becomes a spiritual truth, when you have lived it.

Apply what you know, live it and grow.

Mark777

Very nice answer!

 

[one11]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Maybe read Romans?

Rom 10:13 for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
Rom 10:14 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?
Rom 10:15 How will they preach unless they are sent? Just as it is written, "HOW BEAUTIFUL ARE THE FEET OF THOSE WHO BRING GOOD NEWS OF GOOD THINGS!"
Rom 10:16 However, they did not all heed the good news; for Isaiah says, "LORD, WHO HAS BELIEVED OUR REPORT?"
Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ. [/FONT]