I need Advice about False prophets.

[Presbyterian Continuist]

Hi Guys,
I am not perfect, Sometimes, I fight with people, That's why I'm so quiet, It's not that I don't feel love in my heart. But, I am a person who has always felt a draw to conflict. This may make me unperfect, But who is perfect?

My current situation is, I'm arguing with a man, Who claims to be a prophet, He speaks about UFO's And aliens, at a paranormal forum, I can give links and let you guys see if you want. Those people there Are not Christian. However, I have come to care about that community. This prophet, This false prophet, He posts videos like this,

Now this man has proclaimed many prophecies about Ufo's coming and the rapture, I'm not debating whether the rapture will happen, He gave a prophetic date for the rapture and was incorrect. This man is false He's been doing this since 2006. He has made about fifteen prophecies that never came to pass since that time.

Now my thing is, Fighting is a problem I have, So I pick my battles well, I figure, A false prophet, That is someone a Christian probably should address. Make no mistaken, My primary function is love, I am not perfect mentally, Or physically, But I know love is not the wrong answer to any dilemma. My thing is, The Bible says, I'm not supposed to call Brothers and sisters ignorant, or liars. And Here is the thing, I've called this man, these things. I'm not trying to risk hellfire here. I just want to protect those people from Lies about God and his word.

What Should I do?

You won't get anywhere by fighting with him. He is arrogantly deceived, hard hearted, and in the bonds of iniquity.

But you should warn everyone you come across and urge people to keep away from him and reject his false prophecies.

If you are a writer, write about what you know about true and false prophets and prophecies, based on OT and NT Scripture. It is not difficult to self-publish your book, putting a coloured cover on it, using a long-arm stapler to staple the thing together, and then either sell or give the books away to those who need to know how not to be deceived.

I have attached an example of a book that I wrote and published about false signs and wonders, in the hope that it may be helpful.

 

[Dave G.]

You won't get anywhere by fighting with him. He is arrogantly deceived, hard hearted, and in the bonds of iniquity.

But you should warn everyone you come across and urge people to keep away from him and reject his false prophecies.

If you are a writer, write about what you know about true and false prophets and prophecies, based on OT and NT Scripture. It is not difficult to self-publish your book, putting a coloured cover on it, using a long-arm stapler to staple the thing together, and then either sell or give the books away to those who need to know how not to be deceived.

I have attached an example of a book that I wrote and published about false signs and wonders, in the hope that it may be helpful.

Wow Oscaar, what I read of your pdf seems well written and ( so far at least) accurate too. That's quite a work !

 

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[Albion]

My current situation is, I'm arguing with a man, Who claims to be a prophet, He speaks about UFO's And aliens, at a paranormal forum, I can give links and let you guys see if you want. Those people there Are not Christian. However, I have come to care about that community.

Sometimes it seems as though the world is full of posers and kooks, and the more extreme examples should just be left alone. Neither Sweet Reason nor facts will get through to them but the attempt will frustrate you.

 

[Andrew77]

Hi Guys,
I am not perfect, Sometimes, I fight with people, That's why I'm so quiet, It's not that I don't feel love in my heart. But, I am a person who has always felt a draw to conflict. This may make me unperfect, But who is perfect?

My current situation is, I'm arguing with a man, Who claims to be a prophet, He speaks about UFO's And aliens, at a paranormal forum, I can give links and let you guys see if you want. Those people there Are not Christian. However, I have come to care about that community. This prophet, This false prophet, He posts videos like this,

Now this man has proclaimed many prophecies about Ufo's coming and the rapture, I'm not debating whether the rapture will happen, He gave a prophetic date for the rapture and was incorrect. This man is false He's been doing this since 2006. He has made about fifteen prophecies that never came to pass since that time.

Now my thing is, Fighting is a problem I have, So I pick my battles well, I figure, A false prophet, That is someone a Christian probably should address. Make no mistaken, My primary function is love, I am not perfect mentally, Or physically, But I know love is not the wrong answer to any dilemma. My thing is, The Bible says, I'm not supposed to call Brothers and sisters ignorant, or liars. And Here is the thing, I've called this man, these things. I'm not trying to risk hellfire here. I just want to protect those people from Lies about God and his word.

What Should I do?

I would warn others... but there is no point in arguing with the false prophet himself.

It's kind of like arguing with a sales person, over the quality of a product his companies sells.

You could provide him with evidence until the end of time, you could provide him with government certified research proving it, you could give him stone tablets with the hand written statements from G-d himself, saying "Thy product sucketh"....

and that sales person will never agree with you.

There are two reasons for this. 1. If he ever agreed, then he would have to quit his job. 2. If the company found out he agreed, even in joking, he'd be fired.

So that sales guy is never going to accept you telling him that what he sells is junk.

Similarly, that false prophet is never going to 'see the light'. He will never admit his position is ridiculous. He's a false prophet. If he admitted he was wrong about everything, he'd have no job left. If he admitted he was wrong, everyone that followed this idiot, would ditch him, and he would have no followers.

So he is never going to do it.

That leaves you with the following problem... what is your purpose in arguing with him?

Now you might reach out to the people that watch him... but I wouldn't bother talking directly to him.

 

[Sketcher]

If he has repeatedly prophesied the day and the hour and repeatedly been wrong, I don't see why you should continue speaking with him at all. Matthew 7:6 has appropriate instructions.

 

[ilovejcsog]

People are very seldom in agreement. Respecting anothers opinion is important it doesn't mean you have to agree. I think as adults we have to be able to disagree in a respectful way or otherwise we are just heathens. Because he is a false prophet you should speak up but in a civil manner or you lose your credibility.. He is a false prophet as no one knows the time, etc.... Tell us when he says the rapture will be out of curiosity.
Blessings

 

[Hazelelponi]

1) Hes not your brother

2) what you do is pray for both him and those who follow him that God may have mercy and open their eyes to His perfect truth.

3) You continue on your Christian walk, putting evil behind you. (they are evil) We are not to embroil ourselves with evil.

 

[Blade]

For me.. years ago I read how the ones that came before us would ask things. Well if someone said they were a prophet or thus says the lord this kind of stuff. They would ask them "who are you? Who knows you? How long have you walked in what you preach/teach? They then would all go pray together for a very long time. <---very wise huh. Something we dont do any more. We go by how we FEEL about so and so. And if they preach something that does not agree with our personal belief we call the fake or false prophet. Not thinking.. they could be just like us and have error here or there.

I look for Jesus came in the flesh.. born by Mary. Died on the cross for the worlds sins. Was buried. Rose from the dead 3 days later. And is the only way to the Father. False prophets.. Holy JESUS I have NEVER seen so many prophets/apostles in my life. In the last days.. as Christ said.. we are. But false.. prophets of old were called false many times NOT because they were wrong. SO many times they got it right. They were false because GOD NEVER told them. I try to search on how many times they have been right. I know there are GIFTS that follow the office of a prophet. I find SO many now days say "I am not that kind of prophet"..hmm ok. I have watched.. 6 well known.. say things like "dont question a prophet just do what He tell you" <---OLD TEST days.. YES.. today? NO! That same spirit that was ONLY in that prophet is after Christ IN ALL that love Jesus. As the prophet talked to Paul. Notice he never told him what to do.. but what would happen if he went that way..

When we start talking about things NOT in the word when we speculate.....one has to really be-careful. For anything can be said. For me...I look things they talked about. And making sure it goes in line with the word. I do NOT look for people and listen only to those that match my personal belief. For me that is foolish and I could get deceived. Gifts.. or things like that.. I can listen.. see my Father..

For me.. I don't fine real prophets hanging out on YOUTUBE. Like I said.. there are gifts that HAVE to be in working with that office of a prophet. And you should always get a peace.. so far.. it seems you have not..

 

[Augustus_33AD]

Sounds like a liar to me. I’d stay away

 

[Shadowprophet]

I would warn others... but there is no point in arguing with the false prophet himself.

It's kind of like arguing with a sales person, over the quality of a product his companies sells.

You could provide him with evidence until the end of time, you could provide him with government certified research proving it, you could give him stone tablets with the hand written statements from G-d himself, saying "Thy product sucketh"....

and that sales person will never agree with you.

There are two reasons for this. 1. If he ever agreed, then he would have to quit his job. 2. If the company found out he agreed, even in joking, he'd be fired.

So that sales guy is never going to accept you telling him that what he sells is junk.

Similarly, that false prophet is never going to 'see the light'. He will never admit his position is ridiculous. He's a false prophet. If he admitted he was wrong about everything, he'd have no job left. If he admitted he was wrong, everyone that followed this idiot, would ditch him, and he would have no followers.

So he is never going to do it.

That leaves you with the following problem... what is your purpose in arguing with him?

Now you might reach out to the people that watch him... but I wouldn't bother talking directly to him.

It's difficult to explain, If I had to go with a clean simple answer on why "This Guy" I would have to say, It's that God has done so much for me, I see it in my everyday life. I think, At the very bottom of it all, I want to do something for God. Yes. I think that's the reason. I want to do things for God. I'd give anything to be able to Give back to God.

 

[Augustus_33AD]

To pray for him would also be a good idea.

 

[Swan7]

Hi Guys,
I am not perfect, Sometimes, I fight with people, That's why I'm so quiet, It's not that I don't feel love in my heart. But, I am a person who has always felt a draw to conflict. This may make me unperfect, But who is perfect?

My current situation is, I'm arguing with a man, Who claims to be a prophet, He speaks about UFO's And aliens, at a paranormal forum, I can give links and let you guys see if you want. Those people there Are not Christian. However, I have come to care about that community. This prophet, This false prophet, He posts videos like this,

Now this man has proclaimed many prophecies about Ufo's coming and the rapture, I'm not debating whether the rapture will happen, He gave a prophetic date for the rapture and was incorrect. This man is false He's been doing this since 2006. He has made about fifteen prophecies that never came to pass since that time.

Now my thing is, Fighting is a problem I have, So I pick my battles well, I figure, A false prophet, That is someone a Christian probably should address. Make no mistaken, My primary function is love, I am not perfect mentally, Or physically, But I know love is not the wrong answer to any dilemma. My thing is, The Bible says, I'm not supposed to call Brothers and sisters ignorant, or liars. And Here is the thing, I've called this man, these things. I'm not trying to risk hellfire here. I just want to protect those people from Lies about God and his word.

What Should I do?

Titus 3 should interest you as it pertains to this very thing.

 

[notreligus]

Jesse sometimes speaks of his trip to Heaven during speaking/preaching engagements. One time I noted that he told his story at Joel Osteen's church. I've got the book and I've heard Jesse tell about how he was praying in his hotel room and God sent an angel to him and took him to Heaven in a spaceship like craft. Jesse has seen his home in Heaven. He described it as a large home filled with antiques, just like he and his wife prefer. He said that his home had a nicely manicured lawn. He met Moses and others while he was there.

My wife and I visited a church where I was thinking about taking on the music ministry position. One of the members of the church came up on the stage and spoke about how God had translated her physically to Heaven. The pastor and his wife said, "this is a Christian lady," and since she said she'd been to Heaven they believed her.

I'll leave this for your personal discernment.

 

[salt-n-light]

Hi Guys,
I am not perfect, Sometimes, I fight with people, That's why I'm so quiet, It's not that I don't feel love in my heart. But, I am a person who has always felt a draw to conflict. This may make me unperfect, But who is perfect?

My current situation is, I'm arguing with a man, Who claims to be a prophet, He speaks about UFO's And aliens, at a paranormal forum, I can give links and let you guys see if you want. Those people there Are not Christian. However, I have come to care about that community. This prophet, This false prophet, He posts videos like this,

Now this man has proclaimed many prophecies about Ufo's coming and the rapture, I'm not debating whether the rapture will happen, He gave a prophetic date for the rapture and was incorrect. This man is false He's been doing this since 2006. He has made about fifteen prophecies that never came to pass since that time.

Now my thing is, Fighting is a problem I have, So I pick my battles well, I figure, A false prophet, That is someone a Christian probably should address. Make no mistaken, My primary function is love, I am not perfect mentally, Or physically, But I know love is not the wrong answer to any dilemma. My thing is, The Bible says, I'm not supposed to call Brothers and sisters ignorant, or liars. And Here is the thing, I've called this man, these things. I'm not trying to risk hellfire here. I just want to protect those people from Lies about God and his word.

What Should I do?

Stop fighting with people. If you already said your piece, then leave it and if he heard you then he heard you. If you are tarrying on, then what does that say about your motive? It doesnt help you him nor anyone else. move on.

 

[imMD]

Okay, I mean, I'm not unstudied, I just didn't want to make mistakes, However, I am capable of handling this alone through prayer.

I suppose it was unfair for me to ask others to put their necks on the line to debate this guy,
I am actually an excellent debater. I think I've got this, I was mostly curious if the approach I had to this was the correct Christian move, But you are right, Sometimes, People must fight their own battles.

I will keep you guys updated if this progresses further.

Hi Shadowprophet,

I remind you, the world is filled with ridiculous and heretical ideas. I think these can be used to "trap" Christians into the drama of the debate, without any real usefulness. If a man isn't looking for truth, he'll never see it. And if he is, God promises that he'll find it.

Much love!

 

[Joined2krist]

Thank you guys, I just wanted some advice on how to deal with this, Because, before I knew it, I was in a bitter argument, And, Bitterness just doesn't resonate right with me,

I may have a lot of flaws, But I never fail to seek the right advice, And I will follow your words on this guys, Thank you.

If you can move on, I think it will be your best option. God bless

 

[goldenboy]

Hi Guys,
I am not perfect, Sometimes, I fight with people, That's why I'm so quiet, It's not that I don't feel love in my heart. But, I am a person who has always felt a draw to conflict. This may make me unperfect, But who is perfect?

My current situation is, I'm arguing with a man, Who claims to be a prophet, He speaks about UFO's And aliens, at a paranormal forum, I can give links and let you guys see if you want. Those people there Are not Christian. However, I have come to care about that community. This prophet, This false prophet, He posts videos like this,

Now this man has proclaimed many prophecies about Ufo's coming and the rapture, I'm not debating whether the rapture will happen, He gave a prophetic date for the rapture and was incorrect. This man is false He's been doing this since 2006. He has made about fifteen prophecies that never came to pass since that time.

Now my thing is, Fighting is a problem I have, So I pick my battles well, I figure, A false prophet, That is someone a Christian probably should address. Make no mistaken, My primary function is love, I am not perfect mentally, Or physically, But I know love is not the wrong answer to any dilemma. My thing is, The Bible says, I'm not supposed to call Brothers and sisters ignorant, or liars. And Here is the thing, I've called this man, these things. I'm not trying to risk hellfire here. I just want to protect those people from Lies about God and his word.

What Should I do?

A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition, reject. Titus 3:10.

There is no end to psychosis, neither for the Devil's tricks. You do not need to address this person-he is either bound by Satan or is a crook. IOW, he knows what he's doing. You have fallen into the enemy's trap by bothering to debate him. Not saying you are sinning, you are just being made into a chump.

Jesus doesn't say "Go ye into all the world and stop the false prophets..." If you preach the gospel, heal the sick, cast out devils and raise the dead, people will drop this cluck like a live grenade. Get to it!