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After reading some Bible quote such as: Do not envy wicked men. Do not desire their company."
and articles, but my post count isn't big enough to post them. But the first one basically says we should cut ourselves off from unbelievers, the second has many Bible quotes about not being friends with unbelievers, and the third not to have a CLOSE relationship with unbelievers.

I felt I had to cut myself off from my unbelieving family (who are also friends) and friends, and I miss my mum so much. We had fun together, and I did with my brother as well. I don't think they believe. I miss my mum's reassuring hugs and her making a fuss of me and reading and playing with me. I miss playing with my brother, too.
How much should I cut myself off from them? I miss them. And I also will go on to explain about my friends - I've lost them, too. I'm not sure what to do. I feel so lonely. I know I have the Father to talk to. But I'm having trouble talking to Him. It feels so hard to believe He is there. I know I should try making Christian friends, but they know well, my family, and my friends to a certain extent. My family don't know about me trying to find God, which should be the most important thing, and I'm ashamed but it just seems hard to tell them...some of my friends don't know, either, but I wouldn't mind them knowing. It's just, I was friends with a Muslim, used to be friends with an atheist, who I wanted to be friends with again but now feel I can't, a girl who says she is Christian but believes "good" people go to heaven, a girl who I THINK is a Christian but not so sure, but she's gone to live somewhere else and I talked to her cousin for a bit who might be a Christian but I don't know... and the one I am about to mention
I have a friend who I love. She isn't against the idea of God, she sort of wants to find Him - like me; I'm not sure I've found God yet. I can't really tell her about God, though, due to my own struggles - and also, I'm not completely sure Christianity is right. Although I believe more than I don't believe that Christians are saved, I don't want to lead anyone the wrong way. Even if you are a Christian, I'm sure you understand that, even though you think you know better, that I wouldn't want to lead anyone the wrong way, like you wouldn't want to lead someone to a different religion, for example.
But she doesn't believe entirely. I love her a lot. She is kind. She's struggling with her own troubles. And she's an internet friend, but I still love her (as a friend)...in fact, all the people I consider friends are internet friends. But I love them still.
She's really been struggling, and I feel bad because I haven't talked to her for ages. I used to think I was a nice friend to her, always asked her how she was, wrote huge messages telling her how gorgeous she was, (but are our looks all equal? =s Why is it some people aren't happy with their looks - like me for example...is not God's creation perfect, or did it get spoilt in some way?) how kind she was, how clever, etc.
I really want to help her still. I would go on, pray to the Father I did the right thing in advising her, and talk to her, and not get too close again, for now...but the thing is, I called her my bestfriend. I think I told her I'd never abandon her - and if not talking to her for - I don't know how long - is abandoning her, then I have (Is it okay to promise, as long as we don't break it? Because I thought swearing by something was bad and our yes should be yes and our no should be no). When I next go on to talk to her, if I say to her "I am here for you, but you're not my bestfriend... (when I say bestfriend, I mean bestfriend after God, family, equal to some other friends)" it'll upset her. I know I should do what God wants first, but does He want me to leave the close friendship? She relies on me, or she did, before I stopped talking to her for a while. She suffers in lots of ways. Also, she used to help me feel better with my suffering - which I have been for some while. If I leave her, I'll feel bad. If I don't, I'll feel bad. What does God want? I miss her. But I need to do what He wants first.
Then, I don't know what to do about my other friends...the girl I wrote about, I could write just as much for my other friends. I could write much more about how I love them. Then, my family, I could write for...I don't know how long, how much, but I love them SO much. I miss them.
 
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Oh sweetie, God doesn't want you to cut yourself off from your friends and family! The bible says that we should put Him first, but that doesn't mean we can't have other friends.
When it talks about not desiring the company of wicked men, it is talking about not getting drawn into doing wrong things because those you are with do them. It doesn't mean you can't be with non-Christians.
God says we are to be his witnesses, that we are to show his love to the world, so that they see him in us. We can't do that without spending time with people, demonstrating his love, showing them the life he gives.

God put you where you are to be a witness to your family, to your atheist or muslim friends, to anyone who needs his love. Jesus didn't shut himself away with his disciples, he went out into the world and met people, ate with sinners, spent time with the needy.

Please don't isolate yourself, sweetie, it really isn't what he wants! Spend time with your family, love them, pray for them... and one day they will see what you have and want to know Jesus for them selves.

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I agree with Criada. In fact Jesus rebuked the religious leaders who tithed instead of providing for their parents.

We are not to participate in some of the lifestyle of non Christians, or accept some of their values. But we must not and in fact cannot become totally separate from them. Jesus was the friend of sinners and as He lives with in us by the Holy Spirit He will continue to reach out to people through us. He was not like the Pharisees who saw his partying and fellowship with 'sinners' as wrong.

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I agree with both Criada and John!

John 3:17
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

The bible also says to be in the world, not of it. Meaning we are here in the world to witness to others. To love as Jesus loved without judgment. We bring others to Christ through our actions and planting seeds God does the rest.

Ephesians 6:2
"Honor your father and mother"—which is the first commandment with a promise—
Not being with them how can they see how Christ has changed you. We are to witness to all, love all without judgment.
People will be watching you, they may be searching for God. Pushing them away is not what God asks of us.
 
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Thanks. But...you see, I'm not really helping my family find God when I talk to them. I haven't even told them I'm looking for God. I'm ashamed but I feel so awkward, and scared of rejection. I don't mind my friends knowing, but I can't really talk about Christianity since I'm not sure it's the right way yet. Don't I have to do everything to glorify God? How am I glorifying Him when I'm with my friends? I suppose I'm showing them love. I'm just scared by being with them I'll feel like I love them more than God. Often, when I'm watching a TV programme or something, I think "is this glorifying God?" Not necessarily because I see the things happening in the programme as wrong, but because I see it as neutral. I suppose I'm having fun for God? I don't know...but say I was watching a TV programme with my family. If I'm not spreading the Gospel with them, just watching...I don't know, a general knowledge programme, I'm not helping them do God's Will, am I? Aren't I making them do the opposite? Because they aren't watching the programme to glorify God, either.
 
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Thanks. But...you see, I'm not really helping my family find God when I talk to them. I haven't even told them I'm looking for God. I'm ashamed but I feel so awkward, and scared of rejection. I don't mind my friends knowing, but I can't really talk about Christianity since I'm not sure it's the right way yet. Don't I have to do everything to glorify God? How am I glorifying Him when I'm with my friends? I suppose I'm showing them love. I'm just scared by being with them I'll feel like I love them more than God.

You are glorifying God by living your life for him, and by seeking for the truth. You don't have to preach to show people what God is like, or what he is doing in your life.
Loving God means obeying him, trying to do what he wants. It isn't about 'feelings', but about who is in charge. So as long as you don't do anything against his will when you are with your friends, you aren't offending God in any way.

St Francis is quoted as saying ' Preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.' It isn't about what you say, but how you live.


Often, when I'm watching a TV programme or something, I think "is this glorifying God?" Not necessarily because I see the things happening in the programme as wrong, but because I see it as neutral. I suppose I'm having fun for God? I don't know...but say I was watching a TV programme with my family. If I'm not spreading the Gospel with them, just watching...I don't know, a general knowledge programme, I'm not helping them do God's Will, am I? Aren't I making them do the opposite? Because they aren't watching the programme to glorify God, either.

Plus, I watch a TV programme...to watch a TV programme. I don't usually do it for God...He's not always the first reason, anyway. Is that wrong?

You are allowed to do things just because you enjoy them! God made the world for us to enjoy, the Bible says he came to give us 'abundant life'... which sounds enjoyable to me! Enjoying yourself is glorifying him, sweetie, don't worry.

From what you say, you are not completely convinced yourself about the claims of Jesus. Maybe you should concentrate on finding the truth for yourself before worrying so much about how to share it with others. :hug:
 
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You have a 'too religious' mind set. Being a Christian is not just about telling people about Jesus or being engaged in some 'spiritual' activity. God made a wonderful world for us to live and and interact with. Jesus spent a lot of time at parties (a wedding could last a week or more) and eating, even though He had only a short time with us. But that was not wasting time.

Tom Wright made this great statement "Jesus came to save wholes not souls".

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I'm sure there is a Scripture saying that if you deny God in front of people; Jesus will deny you in front of His Father. I'm not exactly denying Him as in going round saying "God doesn't exist" ...but I pray in secret. Something which could be seen as denying God would be once someone said "does anyone in here actually believe in God?" Something like that - and I said nothing. A girl said "no," and that was it. I felt worried about it afterwards, but I wouldn't go back to every girl there and said "actually, I'm not an athiest. I'm looking for God." It happened quite a while ago, and they've probably forgotten it by now. That, and the way they treat me as an outsider. If I go up to them and say that they'll look at me strangely and start spreading it around - but like it's a bad thing. If I weren't so shy I might have said "I don't know. I want to." I'd tell my online friends that, but I fail him off there. I know God is more important. I just fail Him. Another time I read the Bible while my family were out. When they got back, my mum asked me what I'd been doing, and I replied with "not much." Not much?! I'd been reading the Bible! But I know I wouldn't tell my mum now what I'd been doing, nor would I tell my brother I was praying when I said I was doing "nothing." I'll say "I'm going to do my homework" but I won't mention the prayer I'm going to do as well. I just fail God, in many ways. I don't believe enough, either. It's like I expect something to happen; perhaps I expect some sort of religious experience - maybe God Talking to me in a dream. But I look around at the human world and modern technology and if I speak to God, I hear no physical reply. It seems so difficult to believe, even though I pray. I also find it hard to find remorse. I have felt guilt before for people, people who I can touch- I've hurt them and I feel guilty or sorry for them. But I just find it hard to find guilt for sins. I feel I'm looking for God out of fear - fear of hell. If I knew I was going to heaven, then I wouldn't be asking these questions; I'd be messaging my friend about how unhappy I was- that's another story, though.
I remember once I felt bad because God Made this earth for us and we'd gone against Him -but that's it, I think. I don't want to feel this way. If there were a button which would take away all my future sin, I'm almost sure I'd press it. I'd press a button if it made me believe. I'd press a button to make me feel more remorse. I'd press a button if it gave me a heart of repentance. I do want to turn away from sin, but I can't find myself to hate it, and I'm not very strong at stopping myself. I'm so stressed all the time I'll yell at people because I feel I want to take out how unhappy I am on them. Everyone else my age seems carefree apart from me.
By the way - thank you. I really appreciate your posts =)
 
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Peter Disowns Jesus

54Then seizing him, they led him away and took him into the house of the high priest. Peter followed at a distance. 55But when they had kindled a fire in the middle of the courtyard and had sat down together, Peter sat down with them. 56A servant girl saw him seated there in the firelight. She looked closely at him and said, "This man was with him."
57But he denied it. "Woman, I don't know him," he said.

58A little later someone else saw him and said, "You also are one of them."
"Man, I am not!" Peter replied.

59About an hour later another asserted, "Certainly this fellow was with him, for he is a Galilean."

60Peter replied, "Man, I don't know what you're talking about!" Just as he was speaking, the rooster crowed. 61The Lord turned and looked straight at Peter. Then Peter remembered the word the Lord had spoken to him: "Before the rooster crows today, you will disown me three times." 62And he went outside and wept bitterly.(Luke 22:54-62)

Peter was the same one of whom Jesus said 'On this rock I will build my church'.
We all mess up, sweetie... but the Bible says that God forgives us. :hug:
 
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Fear should never be the basis of our relationship with God. That is going back to the uncertainty of the old pagan gods. In Ephesians Paul tells us to "be rooted and grounded in love..' Love is to be the very foundations of our relationship with God. And perfect love (ie God's love) casts out fear.

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I think this must be a problem for a lot of people. To know just what type of relationship to have with family and friends if they don't share your faith.
You may have to limit the time you spend with them. To grow, I need to be with strong people. Where I live, folks are content to just stay where they are and not go to church or do anything spiritual. It's kind of hard to be motivated if people around you aren't. It's a walk of wisdom.
 
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Dear Girl, I'm going to reply to your first post. Jesus was a friend to sinners. Sinners loved him and invited Him to their parties. The pharisees and sadducees condemned him for associating with them. So who was right? Jesus, or the religious leaders?

What you do have to be careful of is participating in things they do that are evil, like getting falling down drunk, fornicating, doing drugs and things like that. When that sort of thing happens, leave.

And in regards to your family, once you do know Christ, how would you be able to win them, except by associating with them.

Read Corinthians, both of them, and see how Paul tells the Corinthian church to basically shun a guy who was living in gross sin. But after they did that, the man repented and Paul told them to take him back into fellowship.
 
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