I know why Jesus has not returned yet!

[lismore]

I have. I do accept when people correct me, but it has only happened once.

As a new believer, I was entrusted to lead a Bible study. Out of my ignorance, I taught modalism.

I was corrected and given an opportunity to repent and correct my teaching. I did and, since then, I haven't taught anything that is in error.

Good for you . The lord Bless ya

 

[BarbB]

I'm so glad God doesn't use perfect people. It's a big relief to me.

He's only used one perfect person.

Whew. Huge load off my shoulders.

Ha ha ha - the "slogan" of the church I go to in the summer is "No perfect people allowed".

Well, Hagee is currently preaching on prayer - you can catch him at 4 p.m. EDT on TBN. I'm liking this series enough that I'll probably order it on CD.

Mike, not everything you disagree with is heresy. Some of it is style, that's all.

 

[MikeMcK]

Mike, not everything you disagree with is heresy. Some of it is style, that's all.

You're absolutely right and I've never said that it is.

However, those teachings that contradict the essential doctrines of the faith as taught in scripture are heresy.

 

[BarbB]

So can you concede that if this hip-hop church does teach solid doctrine, then that's OK? Or is the hip-hop thing still in the way?

 

[MikeMcK]

So can you concede that if this hip-hop church does teach solid doctrine, then that's OK? Or is the hip-hop thing still in the way?

I was very clear about what I believe in that thread and I'm not going to let you troll for a response in this thread, when you know very well that I've said that it has nothing to do with race or musical style.

 

[probinson]

I was very clear about what I believe in that thread and I'm not going to let you troll for a response in this thread, when you know very well that I've said that it has nothing to do with race or musical style.

Don't you just love these straight answers...

 

[Father Rick]

As a new believer, I was entrusted to lead a Bible study. Out of my ignorance, I taught modalism.

I was corrected and given an opportunity to repent and correct my teaching. I did and, since then, I haven't taught anything that is in error.

Anyone other than me think these kind of posts/attitudes are kinda scary?

 

[Tatu]

Hey Mike, what does Philippians 1:18 say and why?

 

[enoch son]

Ha ha ha - the "slogan" of the church I go to in the summer is "No perfect people allowed".

Well, Hagee is currently preaching on prayer - you can catch him at 4 p.m. EDT on TBN. I'm liking this series enough that I'll probably order it on CD.

Mike, not everything you disagree with is heresy. Some of it is style, that's all.

But that is a flase slogan and the spirit of anti-christ! Are you not IN CHRIST and isn't christ perfect? Phil.3-15, heb. 12;23, Jas. 1;17, Heb. 10; 14, 1 Jn. 4;12 are just a few vers. that say we are perfect.

 

[Questioning Christian]

Anyone other than me think these kind of posts/attitudes are kinda scary?

I am sure that he means he has not since taught anything that he KNOWS was error when he taught it. I don't think there's anything scary at all in his posts. As a moderator, aren't you supposed to be settling the waters instead of stirring up what isn't there?

 

[lismore]

I am sure that he means he has not since taught anything that he KNOWS was error when he taught it. I don't think there's anything scary at all in his posts. As a moderator, aren't you supposed to be settling the waters instead of stirring up what isn't there?

Hey

Rick is an ex mod~ andhe wasnt stirring. I think he was just pointing out that someone who claims to have not spoken an error in years is kinda unique. A perfect man.

 

[Questioning Christian]

thought I was starting a new topic, never mind

 

[Optimax]

Ha ha ha - the "slogan" of the church I go to in the summer is "No perfect people allowed".

Well, Hagee is currently preaching on prayer - you can catch him at 4 p.m. EDT on TBN. I'm liking this series enough that I'll probably order it on CD.

Mike, not everything you disagree with is heresy. Some of it is style, that's all.

I was at a place once that said if we were to ever find a church that was perfect as soon as we showed up it wouldn't be perfect anymore.

 

[MikeMcK]

Hey

Rick is an ex mod~ andhe wasnt stirring. I think he was just pointing out that someone who claims to have not spoken an error in years is kinda unique. A perfect man.

I'm by no means perfect.

The fact is, it's not unique at all. There are many pastorys, preachers, and teachers who manage to go much longer than I have without teaching false doctrine.

Some manage never to teach heresy.

To the best of my recolection, since I've been a part the accountability group I'm in (about four years), only two men out of about twenty have been found to be in error.

One of them, like me, had taught what he did out of ignorance. The other, well meaning but misguided, simply did not consider his words carefully.

Both were as grateful as I was for the correction and the opportunity to repent.

If you're really that shocked that most preachers and teachers hold to sound doctrine, maybe that's a good sign that you're in the wrong church.

 

[MikeMcK]

Hey Mike, what does Philippians 1:18 say and why?

Phil 1:18 is a verse I've seen you quote a couple of times to support false teachers and to make it appear that those of us who follow the Biblical command to test the things we hear in light of scripture, are wrong.

And, on the surface, a superficial reading does make it appear that way.

Phil 1:18 says:

What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.

However, when we look at it closely and study the text, rather than just isolating one verse out of context in order to prop up your argument, we see that Paul is talking about the Gospel only as it is true to God's word.

Paul was reiterating a sentiment I've shared here many times, and that is that God can use anyone for the furtherance of His kingdom.

However, the Bible also makes it clear that God doesn't excuse their behavior.

The teachers in Paul's verse were teaching out of a false spirit, but were teaching the true Gospel.

The false teachers we are talking about are not holding to orthodoxy and, therefore, this verse is irrelevant.

 

[MikeMcK]

I am sure that he means he has not since taught anything that he KNOWS was error when he taught it.

Right. And not only have I not knowingly taught heresy since that time, I actually have to go in front of a panel about every five to six weeks and account for the things I've taught during that time.

It should be noted that, not one of these men, each one Godlier and more knowledgable in God's word than I, have found anything in my teaching that doesn't line up with God's word.

I don't think there's anything scary at all in his posts.

I would think that what is truly scary is the fact that some people are so unfamiliar with the idea that there are actually preachers and teachers out there who hold to sound doctrine.

 

[Tatu]

Phil 1:18 is a verse I've seen you quote a couple of times to support false teachers and to make it appear that those of us who follow the Biblical command to test the things we hear in light of scripture, are wrong.

And, on the surface, a superficial reading does make it appear that way.

Phil 1:18 says:



However, when we look at it closely and study the text, rather than just isolating one verse out of context in order to prop up your argument, we see that Paul is talking about the Gospel only as it is true to God's word.

Paul was reiterating a sentiment I've shared here many times, and that is that God can use anyone for the furtherance of His kingdom.

However, the Bible also makes it clear that God doesn't excuse their behavior.

The teachers in Paul's verse were teaching out of a false spirit, but were teaching the true Gospel.

The false teachers we are talking about are not holding to orthodoxy and, therefore, this verse is irrelevant.

 

[Tatu]

I would think that what is truly scary is the fact that some people are so unfamiliar with the idea that there are actually preachers and teachers out there who hold to sound doctrine.

Please. Make some recommendations.

 

[MikeMcK]

And why do you think that the word of God is so funny? Do you really believe that God is honored by your mocking his word?

Please. Make some recommendations.

There are far too many tens of thousands around the world to list here, but perhaps you might start with Adrian Rogers or Ray Comfort.

 

[Tatu]

There are far too many tens of thousands around the world to list here, but perhaps you might start with Adrian Rogers or Ray Comfort.

Adrian Rogers was a good man, but he was a Southern Baptist who denied the modern-day gifts of the Holy Spirit, wasn't he?

Sounds like he was already in error to me. That's a pretty big issue.