I know the "meaning" of Life !

[Dracil]

Is the survival of H. sapiens a "good" goal? Why? Since I won't be around to see that survival, what meaning does it have for me?

Well, perhaps the conscious part of your brain doesn't care. But your genes do.

 

[Ishmael Borg]

What you explain is why we exist according to the evolution. And how you mixed up this whit the meaning whit life I don’t know, whit the evolution there are no meaning whit life because nothing have a meaning.

But of course you can give personal meaning to your life, but you will probably find out that many of them just was emptiness.

Despite the Mongo-esque syntax of your post, I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

To say that life has no meaning to those who subscribe to evolutionary theory is a pretty big generalization. Maybe you'd like to clarify your position?

 

[USincognito]

Also, courtship would be useless, and marriage should be left in the dust. After all we are only here to reproduce.

You can only make this statement by completely ignoring the facts about human reproduction. Were not salmon. We don't produce thousands of offspring and die. We rear our children to adulthood because we have a slow rate of reproduction.

What good would producing twenty children by twenty mates help a man if all of his children died before they reached the age where they could reproduce themselves? Having all you children dying before reproducing is a recipie for ending your genetic line, not continuing it.

Therefore we pair bond in order to ensure our offspring reach reproductive age and can continue our genetic lineage. The wild card in this is civilization and technology which has made it easier for children to survive to reproductive age without a pair bonding, and is allowing our philandering evolutionary past to catch up with us.

 

[Hydra009]

There are quite a few things wrong with this thread.

rootis,
1. The meaning of life is not "to make the human species survival", whatever that's supposed to mean.
2. You fail to adequately explain how religion is a block to human survival.
3. Just because someone doesn't agree with the above, doesn't automatically make them ignorant.

aeroz19,
1. Atheists are not God-haters any more than those who don't believe in unicorns are unicorn-haters. This is a very stupid assumption to have.

 

[USincognito]

aeroz19,
1. Atheists are not God-haters any more than those who don't believe in unicorns are unicorn-haters. This is a very stupid assumption to have.

You speak for all atheists? I can tell you I've encountered many many (though definately the minority) atheists who clearly are angry at the God they supposedly don't believe in. I call them God-Haters too.

 

[Hydra009]

You speak for all atheists? I can tell you I've encountered many many (though definately the minority) atheists who clearly are angry at the God they supposedly don't believe in. I call them God-Haters too.

You're right. There is a minority that behaves like this. But I'm sick of people trying to pretend that all atheists are like this.

 

[AndTheyShoutedJesus]

You speak for all atheists? I can tell you I've encountered many many (though definately the minority) atheists who clearly are angry at the God they supposedly don't believe in. I call them God-Haters too.

Logically, athiests can't be God haters because if they were God haters, then that means that they believe in God...so basically its a contradiction.

 

[AndTheyShoutedJesus]

Therefore we pair bond in order to ensure our offspring reach reproductive age and can continue our genetic lineage. The wild card in this is civilization and technology which has made it easier for children to survive to reproductive age without a pair bonding, and is allowing our philandering evolutionary past to catch up with us

So love doesn't lead to sex. The plot comes together.

 

[USincognito]

You're right. There is a minority that behaves like this. But I'm sick of people trying to pretend that all atheists are like this.

Well, aeroz's opinions have changed a lot since she first started posting here, so I don't think she was referring to atheists in general but the content of the OP.

 

[USincognito]

Logically, athiests can't be God haters because if they were God haters, then that means that they believe in God...so basically its a contradiction.

Could you please re-read what I wrote?

I said that there are some who are angry at a being they say they don't believe in. It usually stems from being abused by religious parents or taunted by fellow school children or somethin that causes them to have a beef, instead of just a belief. I also said I "call them" God-Haters. I've been using the phrase for years to refer to them. Do you not think I'm aware that it's ironic in nature?

And yes, reproductive co-operation does lead to the evolution of love. Sex is just the physical method by which we reproduce. The key is the reproduction (actually procreating), not the sex (not necessarily procreating) per se.

 

[aeroz19]

Well, aeroz's opinions have changed a lot since she first started posting here...

And what evidence are you basing this assumption on, US?

 

[aeroz19]

aeroz19,
1. Atheists are not God-haters any more than those who don't believe in unicorns are unicorn-haters. This is a very stupid assumption to have.

Oh brother. I never said anything like that. In fact, I said the opposite.

Good to know that the atheists here on CF generally do not agree with this God-hater. It comforts me, really, because if I were an atheist I wouldn't be a God-hater either.

I never said that most or all atheists are God haters.

My definition of a God hater:
One who believes religion is a very bad influence on humanity, like a plague. One who believes religious people are like the "bad races" in the phony science of eugenics.

 

[USincognito]

And what evidence are you basing this assumption on, US?

The fact that you used to think we were all amoral reprobates, and now you only think some of us are.

 

[Logic]

I'm not a God hater, but unicorns make my insides turn. If I ever see a unicorn, it's as good as dead.

 

[aeroz19]

The fact that you used to think we were all amoral reprobates, and now you only think some of us are.

Well, ok, I accept that.

 

[Mother Vashti]

I know the "meaning" of Life....

i have seen many people not knowing the ´meaning´of life, and perhaps even turn to religion for it, but if you only knew.

For all you whom do not know, i will not tell you, the so called meaning of your life, is to make sure the Human Species survival.

I see religion as a block in the way of human survival, as if it will continue, eventually, we will die out because of it, as to many people wants to be in control, for now the Church, and money grabbing people (Like Mr Kent Hovind for example), and eventually everyone, and then its all over.

Just wanted to let you ignorant people know, and the other ones (atheist) already know so..........

Statler: What did you think of "the meaning of life", Wally?
Waldorf: I could have eaten a box of Alpha Bits and CRAPPED a better speech!

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DOH!, d'ho ho ho!!

 

[Paul-martin]

Despite the Mongo-esque syntax of your post, I think I figured out what you were trying to say.

To say that life has no meaning to those who subscribe to evolutionary theory is a pretty big generalization. Maybe you'd like to clarify your position?

No i did not say that, but if we se it from the eyes of the evolution there is no meaning, there is no intelligence behind the evolution so there can't be any meaning (if you throw two dice and get 3 and 5 can you say that there was an meaning behind that?).



But for us self we can find our own meanings, like hunt money, play computer games all day, but if someone but a gun to our head you will se that it was just emptiness....



The only one whiteout emptiness is human relationship and if we affect or help outer humans in an positive direction. (also if u are religious then we can add the relationship to god).

 

[AndTheyShoutedJesus]

Everyone has meaning in their life. In one way or the other, we have affected someone's life. From saving them down to the smallest deed like saying hello. Life sucks...but it doesn't suck that bad..

 

[LivingWitness]

I would suggest some people read Victor Frankl's essay "Man's search for meaning"

May the God of all peace grant you wisdom, understanding, knowledge and may you weild that wisdom, understanding and knowledge in truth, love and mercy.
Raygn

 

[Ishmael Borg]

No i did not say that, but if we se it from the eyes of the evolution there is no meaning, there is no intelligence behind the evolution so there can't be any meaning (if you throw two dice and get 3 and 5 can you say that there was an meaning behind that?).

Via evolution we developed the intelligence that gives meaning to our lives. And how do you know that God didn't use evolution to create all of the organisms on earth? Don't you think He was intelligent enough to do it?

But for us self we can find our own meanings, like hunt money, play computer games all day, but if someone but a gun to our head you will se that it was just emptiness....

The only one whiteout emptiness is human relationship and if we affect or help outer humans in an positive direction. (also if u are religious then we can add the relationship to god).

So the remote societies that have never heard of Christ consist entirely of people whose lives are empty? Is every Muslim leading an empty life? Every Jew? Every other person who doesn't think like you do?