Nathan's comment about evolutionsits not being atheists is irrational of course. People who know God know that He created the world. People who don't believe in God think it created itself.
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You are mistaken; I got the point loud and clear: the quote from Socrates is a lesson in humility, as well as a reminder that one never stops learning. Kind of shoots down the whole "I have absolute truth and you don't" argument, doesn't it?radorth said:If I'm not mistaken, you missed the entire point of the OP. Or perhaps you were just looking for an opportunity to argue.
Actually, we call it "data." Surf on over sometime....Heh. Yeah mountains of evolutionary apologetics.
Of course. It is a fact and a theory. Even the most rudimentary education in what "evolution" really is would show that.Thanks for helping me prove my point. You obviously KNOW evolution is a fact. Right?
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Not at all.Carico said:Nathan's comment about evolutionsits not being atheists is irrational of course.
People who know God tend to disagree on how He created the world. The vast majority believe that evolution is the tool He used.People who know God know that He created the world. People who don't believe in God think it created itself.
The "but" implies that you are agreeing that we know nothing. You are also saying you know that a god exists. You are contradicting yourself, rendering all arguments invalid.Carico said:But there is someone who know everything. All we have to do is ask Him. All it will cost us is humility. Unfortunately, some people think that price is too high.
Agreed."I have absolute truth and you don't" argument, doesn't it?
Actually, we call it "data." Surf on over sometime....
You mean "data" like Nebraska man? Only one problem. The "data" keeps turning out to be either false or to keep you changing theories, and it contradicts two of Darwin's own assertions about how his theory would be proved.Even the most rudimentary education in what "evolution" really is would show that.
Nor do I. Since radorth, like so many others, sees evolution as a threat to Christianity, he has instantly branded it as evil. And since the Bible does teach to turn away from evil, he wouldn't dare actually learn what evolution really is...Arikay said:LoL, you do realize nebraska man was an error that was caught by Evolutionists and hasn't been used since the error was caught, something like 50 years ago.
unfortunatly your posts just seem to show how little you know about science and evolution. As soon as you can admit that you really dont know, you can actually begin to learn. But I dont expect that to happen anytime soon.
Ah, Nebraska Man. I learned about him in history class. Your information is sadly out-of-date.radorth said:Agreed.
You mean "data" like Nebraska man? Only one problem. The "data" keeps turning out to false be either or to keep you changing theories, and it contradicts two of Darwin's own assertions about how his theory would be proved.
That you have such a lack of imagination that you take everything, including the OP, so uberliterally is what's unbelievable.OK, so we'll read "we know that we know evolution is a fact so the OP doesn't apply to us. So no, it isn't absolute truth, but it's both a fact and a theory which we know to be absolutely true, except if we have to change our minds about the basic mechanism in order to explain new data. Therefore we know enough to know something."
Unbelievable.
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Wrong! I have never believed blindly in special or recent creation, nor have I ever denied evolutionary changes occur much as Darwin postulated. I might even say I "know" species adapt to environment and may evolve into other species. What's interesting here is that God could still be creating and you cannot prove otherwise. But you will say you know he isn't, right? The only threat felt here is by you I'm afraid. You cannot say "I don't know" but I can. Your own posts are working against you here Poe.Since radorth, like so many others, sees evolution as a threat to Christianity, he has instantly branded it as evil.
Evolutionary apologetics at its best.LoL, you do realize nebraska man was an error that was caught by Evolutionists and hasn't been used since the error was caught, something like 50 years ago.
See my post to Poe. Why should I learn anything anyway, when all I will learn is enough to know I do not know? Did you also miss the OP?unfortunatly your posts just seem to show how little you know about science and evolution. As soon as you can admit that you really dont know, you can actually begin to learn. But I dont expect that to happen anytime soon.
I guess I'm big time irrational than...because, I'm not even close to being an atheist, as I am very much a lover of my Beloved God, yet...I'm an evolutionist. The thing is, being an evolutionist in itself does not necessarly mean that one "believes" that the world created itself.Carico said:Nathan's comment about evolutionsits not being atheists is irrational of course. People who know God know that He created the world. People who don't believe in God think it created itself.
Perhaps Christians could give deep consideration to this idea ........................that the full meaning of the incarnation - and the exact nature of the atonement - is still being unveiled within time and space..........by the guidance of the Spirit who will lead them into "all truth". Maybe to claim to "know" the definitive answers already - based upon literalist/fundamentalist understanding of so many texts - can block the true guidance of the Spirit?radorth said:What's interesting here is that God could still be creating and you cannot prove otherwise.
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I went back and read past post, and I don't think Rad has said anything about evolution being evil. What I think I hear him doing is the same thing that many non-Christians do when they press Christians about their "beliefs" in Christ. Now, I'm an evolutionist who is also a geologist-want-to-be. As a geologist-want-to-be, I'm, aware of earth processes. I'm also aware of the theories upon which geology is based. A lot of these theories take some level of faith that they actually happened that way. That is why the very nature of science is testing and modifying theories. Evolution, I suspect takes even more faith than geology, even with the preponderance of evidence that points towards evolution happening. And the near zero evidence pointing towards a 6 day creation, IMO, requires near blind faith that that process happened. The thing is, BOTH beliefs require some degree of belief that they actually happened.Nathan Poe said:Nor do I. Since radorth, like so many others, sees evolution as a threat to Christianity, he has instantly branded it as evil
The mystics often say that what we often accept as real in our everyday life, really isn't. I think that this points towards the question of: What is Reality? ..Arikay said:It does take "faith" to accept science, but no more "faith" than it does to accept most everyday things as truth.
Nor do I. Since radorth, like so many others, sees evolution as a threat to Christianity, ...
...he has instantly branded it as evil. And since the Bible does teach to turn away from evil, he wouldn't dare actually learn what evolution really is...
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