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OrthodoxyUSA

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I can't stay here anymore without saying ugly things to the heretics.

Those who deny the sacraments.

Those who would keep Christ out of Worship.

I am becoming less tolerant of stupidity and ignorance. Especially when I am told what we believe by a non-believer.

I have no patients with them any longer.

I ask for your prayers and suggestions.

I pray that I will get kicked from the server soon, so that the choice will no longer be mine.

My usefulness here has run it’s course.

Forgive me…
 

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Though I'd hate to see you go, if you feel being here is causing you spiritual harm, then leave by all means! You might want to read the Screwtape E-mail link Rusmeister just posted in another thread.
 
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Perhaps you can stay in TAW for fellowship, without leaving CF completely

That's what I do. Everytime I wander into GH, I regret it. But your knowledge could still be useful to those who come here looking fir answers.
 
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I can't stay here anymore without saying ugly things to the heretics.

Those who deny the sacraments.

Those who would keep Christ out of Worship.

I am becoming less tolerant of stupidity and ignorance. Especially when I am told what we believe by a non-believer.

I have no patients with them any longer.

I ask for your prayers and suggestions.

I pray that I will get kicked from the server soon, so that the choice will no longer be mine.

My usefulness here has run it’s course.

Forgive me…

I guess we can see you over at Orthopraxis?

Or you can just stay in TAW and not venture out.
 
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Don't worry about it man - some people will never change - they have their own agenda, after all they think they are right (not you). You can't "win" an arguement with a closed mind like those... But who knows, maybe years down the road the seed you planted will be brought to sprout through the work of the Holy Spirit. You never know.
 
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OUSA, 1) try to remember that if you were a devout protestatn before, you may have been just like them.
2) Seriously, don't venture out of TAW. At the most check out OBOB nad whatever protestant group youcan "stomach" and if you can't any of them, then stay strictly with TAW. You aren't going to fix anything in GH. It's a wasteland. If people want to learn they will go to the spoecific forums. Some of htem do, most don't and it's a good thing because they would only come here to create havoc and not to learn. Perhaps there are some who are called to venture out there and be a light. But it's not me and sounds like it's not you either.

I don't even ever check out what's going on in GH becuase I know it would get me riled up and it would do me spiritual harm. If in the end it doesn't work nad you can't control yourself then do somethign to get kicked out and have fundoing it (like, comment on some of the stupid ads that you know we all want to but we can't... we'd all enjoy that even if we can't fire back :)... that will get some wanrings for sure ;))

Anyway, try to stick around, and if nothing else works, flee and you can keep in touch through Orthodpraxis.

John
 
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I actually feel bad as I write this because it sounds as I give advice to you and it really should be the other way around, both agewise and plain wise. I sure would be a thousand times worse if I were in your place and following your calling, of giving some truth to the heterodox. Which is why I very rarely post there (or anywhere for that matter!).

Basically, anger, frustration and desperation are all feelings 100% caused by the Enemy. I think he is mad at you and the timing seems interesting, right after it seemed you, with the grace of God, had produced some fruit, with some very encouraging visits here from the outside and a particular one. And that seems to now go the other way again, perhaps because of what was going on in GH. How subtle and utterly hateful the Enemy is!

As for the people who give the step to the enemy to work his cruelty on you, I always found this incident from the life of elder Porphyrios very helpful:

A man was telling him how some people caused him so much bitterness, anger and frustration as they were doing him great injustices. The elder asked him:
"Imagine you walked on the road and suddenly saw your brother in front of you get attacked by malicious thieves. They would hit him and stab him until he was left bleeding on the sidewalk unconscious. What would you do? What would you do?"
The man answered that of course he would run to him and offer him help.
The elder replied, "would you hate him? Be angry at him? Kick him?"
"Of course not!", replied the man, not understanding how the elder could think this about him.
"This is exactly what happens to those people who cause you the anger. They are being attacked by the demons and it is a worse attack! We should love them more for it and pray for them"

I don't have any practical advice save the standard Orthodox Way remedies: Go to your SF, tell him exactly what happened and what your thoughts and feelings were when you posted whatever and follow his advice.

But I know that both the elders Porphyrios and Paisios often did not talk to certain visitors (and they were most of the time Orthodox visitors!) Perhaps, the decisions you made when you were calm, to put certain posters on ignore or refrain from posting in threads they participate is a very good idea. But the spiritual father knows best obviously!

Please forgive me if anything here is off-base or sounds judgemental. I honestly 100% am amazed that you kept your calm at certaint threads and posters. I absolutely wouldn't be able to do that. Careful with the slaps though :) I think those tactics are strictly reserved for the spiritual heights of few and at situations graver than a thread on the internet ;)

Again forgive me...
 
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Do not let this place disrupt your inner peace. If this place makes you angry at the heterodox, take a break, for Christ told us that when we are angry, we are in danger of hell. If we start to see the heterodox as enemies, rather than the lost who need to find the true faith, we run the risk of dehumanizing them and forgetting that they are just like we were before we found the Church. Take a break.

Also remember that Jesus didn't tell the apostles to pester those who wouldn't listen to them. He said to shake the dust from their feet and move on. Too many people in this world who are thirsting for God to spend time hammering at the hard hearted.
 
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I had not posted in CF for quite a while but recently got drawn into GT.

It's kinda fun as long as I don't let myself get offended. It's amazing the different ideas out there but after all most are not Orthodox. The posters that get really blasphemous probably best to ignore not just for my own sake but for theirs as well.

Your posts are always helpful and hope you will continue. Maybe just take a little break and see how you feel.

Also want to say hi to all on TAW.

Fotina
 
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vasileios said:
Basically, anger, frustration and desperation are all feelings 100% caused by the Enemy. I think he is mad at you and the timing seems interesting, right after it seemed you, with the grace of God, had produced some fruit, with some very encouraging visits here from the outside and a particular one. And that seems to now go the other way again, perhaps because of what was going on in GH. How subtle and utterly hateful the Enemy is!

Very insightful, vasileios!

Mary
 
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I can't stay here anymore without saying ugly things to the heretics.

Those who deny the sacraments.

Those who would keep Christ out of Worship.

I am becoming less tolerant of stupidity and ignorance. Especially when I am told what we believe by a non-believer.

I have no patients with them any longer.

I ask for your prayers and suggestions.

I pray that I will get kicked from the server soon, so that the choice will no longer be mine.

My usefulness here has run it’s course.

Forgive me…
Fear not brother, there remain some "heretics" here on CF who are willing to listen to Orthodoxy... and keen to learn more. Perhaps your usefulness has yet to expire?

Peace and blessings
 
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When I first joined CF I didn't know about TAW and I'm sure the heretics blood was boiling every time I posted.
I had the same frustrations you have, so now I never leave TAW. I hope you will at least stay with us here.
We would miss you!!!
 
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Sometimes you need to come back to the monastery from the desert my friend.

Christ only stayed in the desert for 40 days being attacked. Why would you choose to remain in the wilderness? Pride ruled the evil one then, and you will see that same pride in other forums here.

The ones here will refresh and comfort you as you have refreshed and comforted them. Let them help you.

That is what we are for to each other yes? :)
 
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Sometimes you need to come back to the monastery from the desert my friend.

Christ only stayed in the desert for 40 days being attacked. Why would you choose to remain in the wilderness? Pride ruled the evil one then, and you will see that same pride in other forums here.

The ones here will refresh and comfort you as you have refreshed and comforted them. Let them help you.

That is what we are for to each other yes? :)
Hey, look what the cat dragged in... :p
 
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