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It's so simple I don't know why I haven't heard it suggested before.

Problem: Nobody wants abortions to happen, (except for extreme cases eg, where the mother will die).

Solution: Stop unnessesary abortions.

Problem: Heaps of unwanted babies.

Solution: Allow same sex couples to marry and adopt them.

EVERYBODY WINS!
 

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P4g4nite said:
It's so simple I don't know why I haven't heard it suggested before.

Problem: Nobody wants abortions to happen, (except for extreme cases eg, where the mother will die).

Solution: Stop unnessesary abortions.

Problem: Heaps of unwanted babies.

Solution: Allow same sex couples to marry and adopt them.

EVERYBODY WINS!

There are already thousands of parents wanting to adopt ;)
 
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ASLER86 said:
There are already thousands of parents wanting to adopt ;)
And thousands of children waiting to be adopted. Unfortunately, only a small fraction of them are the healthy, caucasian infants that prospective parents are holding out for.
 
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My uncle's girlfriend (semi-aunt?) adopted a Polynesian girl.

The solution to the whole mess: mass sterilization and baby farms. The government will force-breed those who are deemed most fit by science, the fertilized eggs will mature in an artificial placenta, and the unfit and mutated will be "released" and harvested for their delicious stem cells.


(incase you can't detect the sarcasm, it's there)
 
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We just need to implant all women with Norplant and they can only remove it when they want to have a baby. :thumbsup:

Not allowing same-sex couples to adopt makes no sense. There are many kids that could benefit from being in a loving home. Why prevent them from being in a stable home because that home happens to have a same-sex couple. Travesty.
 
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Randall McNally said:
And thousands of children waiting to be adopted. Unfortunately, only a small fraction of them are the healthy, caucasian infants that prospective parents are holding out for.
Very good point. I hope to one day be in a position to adopt a child. I have decided that I will not go for a baby or a caucasian as they will always get the homes. I will ask for an older child from a minority background who's chances of finding a home are not high.

There is an organization called Shohannas Hope run by a Christian recording artist that helps people fund going to China to adopt the orphans from there. Pretty cool org.
 
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P4g4nite said:
It's so simple I don't know why I haven't heard it suggested before.

Problem: Nobody wants abortions to happen, (except for extreme cases eg, where the mother will die).

Solution: Stop unnessesary abortions.

Problem: Heaps of unwanted babies.

Solution: Allow same sex couples to marry and adopt them.

EVERYBODY WINS!

Except for extreme cases as you've pointed out,all abortions are unnecessary.
 
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Ninja Turtles said:
Not allowing same-sex couples to adopt makes no sense. There are many kids that could benefit from being in a loving home. Why prevent them from being in a stable home because that home happens to have a same-sex couple. Travesty.
That would be a good point if it were true that same sex couples always create unstable home environments. Unfortunately for your point, it isn't, so instead your point is... well... pointless.

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The state of California took me away from my drug-addicted mother and handed me over to my alcoholic father--who in turn passed me on to relatives until he ran out of them and then exhausted his friends. . . until he finally kind of cut me lose at 16 [he still tried to control me though].

My point? I'd have given anything to come home to two people who loved and respected each other--who had cookies and milk and helped me with my homework. Same sex parents? Yeah, I'd have loved it and it would have saved a lot of pain:thumbsup: .
 
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That would be a good point if it were true that same sex couples always create unstable home environments. Unfortunately for your point, it isn't, so instead your point is... well... pointless.

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i am very sorry to inform you that not all differant sex couples have happy relationships. are we not taught in the bible that all men are equal? we should not be looking upon homosexuals and branding them as anything other than brother and sister. i am still a young man...idealistic i know. The church has no right to be getting involved in peoples rights who do not wish it. i dream of a day when the church realises its role is too teach those who wish to be taught...give advise...sure but never step over the boundaries allowed by God. Would God have allowed these abortion procedures to be developed if they were not to be used? no.
 
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Randall McNally said:
And thousands of children waiting to be adopted. Unfortunately, only a small fraction of them are the healthy, caucasian infants that prospective parents are holding out for.

True...there are many babies, and even more older children (who were removed from their homes later because of abuse, neglect, etc)

I hope to be able to adopt, and I am looking more into adopting the "unadoptable", the ones who are least likely to be adopted including older children, minority children, I also want to adopt deaf children because most deaf foster children go from one home to another, and many foster families are not deaf or do not know sign language.

The sentence earlier was referring to something I read that each year on average there are 200,000 parents wanting to adopt (many who cannot have children of their own), and each year there are only about 25,000 babies available for adoption.
 
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skoosh said:
i am very sorry to inform you that not all differant sex couples have happy relationships. are we not taught in the bible that all men are equal? we should not be looking upon homosexuals and branding them as anything other than brother and sister. i am still a young man...idealistic i know. The church has no right to be getting involved in peoples rights who do not wish it. i dream of a day when the church realises its role is too teach those who wish to be taught...give advise...sure but never step over the boundaries allowed by God. Would God have allowed these abortion procedures to be developed if they were not to be used? no.
Hey, there, and welcome to Christian Forums!

Just a friendly bit of advice: next time pay some careful attention to the post to which you are attempting to respond and/or quote. I suspect that you intended to address the same person that I did, but in reality you addressed me with a point that I not only refuse to contest, but will resoundingly applaud!

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dkara said:
The state of California took me away from my drug-addicted mother and handed me over to my alcoholic father--who in turn passed me on to relatives until he ran out of them and then exhausted his friends. . . until he finally kind of cut me lose at 16 [he still tried to control me though].

My point? I'd have given anything to come home to two people who loved and respected each other--who had cookies and milk and helped me with my homework. Same sex parents? Yeah, I'd have loved it and it would have saved a lot of pain:thumbsup: .

I have a nephew in California that was taken from my sister and adopted to a couple there and a nephew that my mother(now deceased)and my step father adopted here in NC.Ryan,in CA. is doing well the last I heard,but Tony here in NC.is currently up on at least 24 felony charges for making bomb threats all over the city.He knows it's 100% his fault and his future is in the hands of the courts.My point is every one has to make the best of their situation.Not many of us grew up like the Brady Bunch.You can't change your past but your future is up to you,so make the best decisions you can to obtain the life you desire.Make sure any children you have now or in the future has the life you wish you had growing up.Break the cycle!!!
 
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P4g4nite said:
It's so simple I don't know why I haven't heard it suggested before.

Problem: Nobody wants abortions to happen, (except for extreme cases eg, where the mother will die).

Solution: Stop unnessesary abortions.

Problem: Heaps of unwanted babies.

Solution: Allow same sex couples to marry and adopt them.

EVERYBODY WINS!
I love you idea for solution, unfortunately, the world doesn't see why abortions can't be legal and done at their leisure.

Still, if this was done, yes there would be many unwanted babies. Children with already shaken foundations who may or may not have had a chance to hear about Jesus.

It would be beyond risky to allow them to be raised by same-sex couples. Most likely, that couple does not know the Lord so the kid will not be taught. Or they will have a backward teaching of the Bible and the child will learn wrong, making it hard to help them later on.

Plus, the child will not see the family as God planed it. They wouldn't see how a man treats his wife and the other way around. They would be thrust with one gender dominance ideas like: I'm a boy and my parents are girls, girls must have a role of dominance. Or they'll become the way their parents are and try to be a same sex couple. There truly is to many negatives to allowing same sex couples to adopt.

There's not cut and dry way to fix this, but to go and spread the word to people before they go and make the mistake of sex out of wed lock.
 
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Shuneequia said:
It would be beyond risky to allow them to be raised by same-sex couples. Most likely, that couple does not know the Lord so the kid will not be taught. Or they will have a backward teaching of the Bible and the child will learn wrong, making it hard to help them later on.

Plus, the child will not see the family as God planed it. They wouldn't see how a man treats his wife and the other way around. They would be thrust with one gender dominance ideas like: I'm a boy and my parents are girls, girls must have a role of dominance. Or they'll become the way their parents are and try to be a same sex couple. There truly is to many negatives to allowing same sex couples to adopt.
Do you have any objections that do not amount to problems unique to your religion? Because a child not "knowing the Lord," having a "backward teaching of the Bible" and learning that "girls have a role of dominance" are not high up on my list of concerns for same-sex parents. And I'm pretty sure the Constitution frowns on purely religious reasons to deny an otherwise-retained right.
 
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