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Right now I am thoroughly fed up with this forum! I don't see Jesus in here. All I see is a bunch of mean-spirited people in here.

I had hoped that this would be an encouraging place, but I don't think that is possible anymore.

This place just plain old sucks!

Goodbye!
Woobie--please don't leave. Remember--In order for evil to prevail-is for GOOD men to do nothing!

We need your influence and intelligence to help overcome the evil that is trying to over-take this form. Please stay!!!

Blessings--Linda
 
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Woobie--please don't leave. Remember--In order for evil to prevail-is for GOOD men to do nothing!

We need your influence and intelligence to help overcome the evil that is trying to over-take this form. Please stay!!!

Blessings--Linda
Why is disagreeing with Woob or anyone else here Evil? Isn't it possible to disagree with people whether traditional or Progressive without calling the other side evil. surely if one feels that their side has truth they will be able to express it. If not what good could their truth be if it is only believed by those who already believe it?
 
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More demonization by the TSDA's. How pathetic.

Typical and expected, but still pathetic just the same. :sigh:

It's interesting to see the same principals that drove the Holocaust at work here. Dehumanize the group and call them evil and the source of all that ails.

Makes the persecution so much easier that way.
 
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From what I've seen you've had it pretty hard, and so have others that have left. Me being one of them...To be honest, since I've returned from my absense the statement that sums up what I think is something like this.....

Since I've returned to CF, it is very obvious why I left in the first place.

Please I encourage to stick around for the while, pray with me, as we all should for our forum. It's almost the worst on CF, and we claim to be the true church. Where is the Love? I'll miss you woobs, though I completely understand your decision, and who knows, I might be close behind you, the way my life's going at the moment. God Bless and all the best. I hope we meet again in God's kingdom.
 
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This is sad. When ever you guys face adversity you cry and leave. Just acknowledge that SDA chruch is more dirvers then you believed at first. You don't have to like it or agree with it. Just acknowledge it and accept it as reality. Your expectation is that every one be like you and every one is not. You should take this as a learning experiance and oppetunity. asking why people believe what they believe. That is when real growth takes place.
 
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We don't cry and leave. What experience do you speak out of? How many people have attacked you? Not to argue, but if you've seen the way some of us in this forum are treated by others, it really is hard to see God's love. It's not sad, it's logical.
don't talk to me about bad treatment. I have been treated very bad by TSDA here. so I feel your pain man,. some of the TSDA suffering is all in their heads. it starts with bad belief and then when reality does not meet there belief they call it suffering. They have just been asked hard questions and can't handel it. They wilt under pressure
 
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hmm....i've never really a lot in these forums because, i don't kno much about the SDA church...and thats because i felt that the topics posted were too advanced for me...or i don't feel wanted on here....oh well. i have a suggestion if its allowed in this forum...instead of just talking about the SDA church, why won't we just get to know some ppl...i know its a SDA forum, but hey i think its worth it in the end.

as for you woobadooba, i haven't really been on the SDA forums as much, so i don't know what you are talking about...i'd have to see it for myself. if people were truly mean-spirited on here, then i hope that they would change and reconsider, and someday you may come back on here :) But of course everything doesn't work that easy...but someday i hope it works.
 
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don't talk to me about bad treatment. I have been treated very bad by TSDA here. so I feel your pain man,. some of the TSDA suffering is all in their heads. it starts with bad belief and then when reality does not meet there belief they call it suffering. They have just been asked hard questions and can't handel it. They wilt under pressure

My my, but everyone is a victim here, can that be?
All the suffering makes me think there be much crocodile tears. It seems that all say they are a man more sinned against than sinning.
 
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don't talk to me about bad treatment. I have been treated very bad by TSDA here. so I feel your pain man,. some of the TSDA suffering is all in their heads. it starts with bad belief and then when reality does not meet there belief they call it suffering. They have just been asked hard questions and can't handel it. They wilt under pressure
Ice--look closely at WHO it is that are the attackers! It's you and RC and night-PERIOD!! All the TSDA's do is fight back--but we do not start it--YOU DO!! You come in here cutting and slashing with your arrogant attitudes and just expect us to accept your garbage theologies without comment? Because of this very thing--CF created 2 seperate forums for the 2 factions. Why can't you just stay in your 'progressive' area and leave us alone? After all--like the old saying goes--'we were here first'!
 
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Right now I am thoroughly fed up with this forum! I don't see Jesus in here. All I see is a bunch of mean-spirited people in here.

I had hoped that this would be an encouraging place, but I don't think that is possible anymore.

This place just plain old sucks!

Goodbye!

Woob,
Let me give you some advice. (I kinda feel like an older brother speaking to his little brother here.) Don't take what is said so personally. Just know the source of what all of this hate and contention actually is. The enemy will work harder in the true church than anywhere else. Just calm down and witness the truth as you know it . Realize the venom that gets thrown around here is founded in demonic influence.

God Bless
Jim Larmore
 
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Ice--look closely at WHO it is that are the attackers! It's you and RC and night-PERIOD!! All the TSDA's do is fight back--but we do not start it--YOU DO!! You come in here cutting and slashing with your arrogant attitudes and just expect us to accept your garbage theologies without comment? Because of this very thing--CF created 2 seperate forums for the 2 factions. Why can't you just stay in your 'progressive' area and leave us alone? After all--like the old saying goes--'we were here first'!
No We are not attackers. We have questions. that is all. I have been a life long SDA and a degree in Theology. What you are confessing is that there is no foundation for the prophetic secenero. I have never attacke anyone. YOu want this fourm all to your self. Well it isn't going to happen. YOu were not here first and as far as staying in one are you have 2 options, 1 practice what you preach you stay in the "traditional" fourm and never have your faith challenged or leave. You don't own this area. You are taking things way to personally. You have backed your self in to a corner by claiming absloute "truth" on every thing. that is your problem you have not given your self any wiggle room. You have not studied out the issues and now that is being questioned by those who know better. if you would take the challange or just live with it there would not be this issue.
 
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Ice--look closely at WHO it is that are the attackers! It's you and RC and night-PERIOD!! All the TSDA's do is fight back--but we do not start it--YOU DO!! You come in here cutting and slashing with your arrogant attitudes and just expect us to accept your garbage theologies without comment? Because of this very thing--CF created 2 seperate forums for the 2 factions. Why can't you just stay in your 'progressive' area and leave us alone? After all--like the old saying goes--'we were here first'!
Honor you probably have noticed that there are two subforums, Traditional and Progressive. This is a general Adventist forum open to all Adventists. Maybe what you and some others need to realize is that there is no need for the Traditionals to claim ownership of this forum. Then there would be no need to say that someone who disagrees with you here is evil or working from demonic influence. You could save that for your comments among yourselves in the Traditional SDA subforum.

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No We are not attackers. We have questions.

Actually I think we have some answers also. I also think that in the pursuit of truth we do attack false ideas, usually we try not to attack a person, but as we all know it is hard for a person to have their ideas questioned and the person not feel they themselves are being questioned. So I can understand how someone may think they are attacked even when they are not attacked. As Jim said above you can't take everything personally.

So two things to take away from this, There is a general SDA forum which is not under the domination of either Traditional or Progressive SDA's and is intended to allow reasonable discussion between Adventist.
Second don't take questions or disagreements as personal attacks or as evidence of evil or demonic influence.
 
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Honor you probably have noticed that there are two subforums, Traditional and Progressive. This is a general Adventist forum open to all Adventists. Maybe what you and some others need to realize is that there is no need for the Traditionals to claim ownership of this forum. Then there would be no need to say that someone who disagrees with you here is evil or working from demonic influence. You could save that for your comments among yourselves in the Traditional SDA subforum.

Ice wrote:


Actually I think we have some answers also. I also think that in the pursuit of truth we do attack false ideas, usually we try not to attack a person, but as we all know it is hard for a person to have their ideas questioned and the person not feel they themselves are being questioned. So I can understand how someone may think they are attacked even when they are not attacked. As Jim said above you can't take everything personally.

So two things to take away from this, There is a general SDA forum which is not under the domination of either Traditional or Progressive SDA's and is intended to allow reasonable discussion between Adventist.
Second don't take questions or disagreements as personal attacks or as evidence of evil or demonic influence.
Ah--I was in the thick of things when when this forum was split my friend!! It was because of the abusive attitude of the progressives back then that caused that split! So get a life bucko--we WERE here first!! Not only as the SDA denomination--but this forum too!!

Sit back and what who statrs what and you will readily see that it's the progressives who are the aggressors!! I've seen this same attitude among ALL those who split from the main body of SDA belivers. It's a billigerent and heady-know-it-all arrogance that you display.

I'm not sure what part of 'we don't agree' that you don't get--but I sure as heck wish you would get it soon!
 
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Anyone who wishes can go read the earliest posts in this forum and see for themselves. Just go to your control panel first and enable posts since the beginning, otherwise you will only see ones from 90 days or something.

Go to Control Panel (top of the forum) => Edit Options => Default Thread Age Cut Off

Then select "Show all threads" from the drop down menu.



The sub-forums were started to address the very thing we have now--theological disputes.

Anyone wishing to avoid those can post in the traditional or progressive forums and be free from such debate.

From the announcement:
http://www.christianforums.com/t5169356-welcome-to-the-sda-forum-please-read-before-posting.html

Traditional SDAs: a subforum for those who believe in the 28 fundamental beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists
Progressive SDAs: a subforum for progressive and liberal SDAs, meaning those who do not fully agree with the 28 fundamentals
Main SDA forum: an area where all SDAs can discuss and debate
 
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Woob,
Let me give you some advice. (I kinda feel like an older brother speaking to his little brother here.) Don't take what is said so personally. Just know the source of what all of this hate and contention actually is. The enemy will work harder in the true church than anywhere else. Just calm down and witness the truth as you know it . Realize the venom that gets thrown around here is founded in demonic influence.

God Bless
Jim Larmore
That's one way to look at it. Have you ever considered the fact that you may be wrong?

You see ONLY Adventism as being the truth, which means ALL other denominations and belief systems are wrong. Just think for a minute about what you believe! Think about the implications of what you believe. And in the end it is ONLY SDA's who stick with traditional/historic SDA beliefs that are the one's being 'persecuted'. It's a vain position to take. You demonize all others and judge them, all the while maintaining that you are the ONLY 'true church'. Amazing!
 
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Why is disagreeing with Woob or anyone else here Evil? Isn't it possible to disagree with people whether traditional or Progressive without calling the other side evil. surely if one feels that their side has truth they will be able to express it. If not what good could their truth be if it is only believed by those who already believe it?
Thank you for your post. Conflict or disagreement does NOT connotate 'evil'.
 
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