I feel so bad.

[PARCmd]

Hi!

I'm troubled by the compulsions I'm getting lately, the ones where we would think about the blasphemy itself and then supplant it with a canceling word at the end of the sentence.

It gets uncontrollable sometimes.

Its so bad because sometimes I can't cancel everything and that leaves me like blaspheming the HS or even renouncing God.

Have you experienced something like this?

These are examples of the compulsions:
1. xxxx--is Satan not.
2. xxxx--is a demon not.
3. xxxx--is the Devil not.
4. xxxx--is Satan incarnate not.
5. F--k XXXX not.
6. I renounce XXXX not.
7. I deny XXXX not.

If you know the unpardonable sin, you know what the XXXX means.

I do not do it to insult the Spirit of grace, I just do it because there seems to be an urge (so this is a compulsion, right?), and sometimes I feel like I'm terribly bad and damned to Hell.

What's worse, I forget to put the not in the end sometimes whenever the thoughts snowball (come in several sequences simultaneously).

AND since I visualize the word sometimes, even though how hard I try, the canceling word can't seem to insert itself to the sentence.

EVEN THOUGH THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT SALVATION ITSELF IS AN IRREVOCABLE GIFT (i.e., ONE SAVED, FOREVER SAVED) - AND THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE.

 

[BigV]

PARCmd, let me ask you a personal question. What are you trying to accomplish by posting about your struggles?

Do you want to change your thought patterns? Do you want to be free from your compulsions that cause you to have lack of peace in your life?

Then you NEED to CHANGE doing what you are doing.

Are you seeing a counselor? If NOT, why NOT?

I'd contact NEWLIFE.com counselors.

Btw, I'm NOT affiliated with NEWLIFE nor am I a counselor myself, so I'm not giving medical advice.

However, you need to see someone and make changes IF you want for your thoughts to be under control.

I'll be praying for you bud...

 

[PARCmd]

Thanks!

Everything's UNDER CONTROL,

EXCEPT FOR THE HEAVY GUILT AND FEELINGS OF BEING UNFORGIVEN BY GOD...

 

[BigV]

Well, do you realize that there is NOTHING you can do or THINK that can earn you eternal life? Do you realize that you are fully helpless before God?

Even if your compulsions were not there, you still would need a Savior.

And that is why Jesus Christ came to this world. So that He could PAY in full the penalty for our sinfull acts and thoughts.

Do you believe this? Do you trust Jesus Christ ALONE as your ONLY Savior?

If so, then your thoughts and your words and your actions are covered by His blood.

John 3:16 For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.

2 Cor. 5:21 God made the one who did not know sin to be sin for us, so that in him we would become the righteousness of God.

 

[PARCmd]

Yes I trust the Lord Jesus Christ as my Only Savior. THat's why I'm so grieved why I have to do these things.

By the way, these are not obsessions (thoughts that simultaneously appear) - these are compulsions - I myself think of the blasphemous thoughts in order to cancel them with a word (like "not").

Nice post

By the way, what is the Unpardonable Sin in this case?

 

[BigV]

y the way, what is the Unpardonable Sin in this case?

btw, english is not my first language, so sorry for mixing obsessions and compulsions.

Also, hope your 2008 is better than 2007.

Regarding unpardonable sin, there ARE no unpardonable sins for those that are in Christ.

God made us HOLY and blameless in the instant that we trusted in Christ alone as our Savior.

So, our RELATIONSHIP is forever secure.

However, our fellowship can be broken. If we don't forgive others, then God won't forgive us. But, not in the sense that He is going to stop being our Father, but in a sense that our fellowship will not be the same as when we forgive others.

We won't have the same peace, joy, etc... But we will still be saved.

So, there are no unpardonable sins. Yes, it's true that sins have consequences and while God forgives us some sins (again, in the contexts of fellowship), He punishes us for others (like 1 Cor. 15 shows, some Christians at Corinth were sick and many were dying for their sins, but they still were SAINTS and their body was a temple of the Holy Spirit).

Therefore, relax, you are in the hands of Jesus Christ, who loves you and cares for you more than anyone on this forum. Listen, I can understand your OCD somewhat, as I've struggled and to a degree still strugle with some things today. And if I can understand your struggle, how much more does Jesus understand you and your OCD?

I'm not sure how your parents treated you when you were younger, but a solid, carrying family would not just push you away just because your think bad thoughts about them. How much stronger is God's love for us?

Do you remember, Jesus asked: Which of you, when your child asks you for a bread will give him a stone and which one will give your child a snake when they ask for a fish? And then, Jesus said... if you then, being EVIL, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much MORE will your heavenly Father give you what you ask for?

Hope this helps.
In Christ,
V

 

[gracealone]

Hi!

I'm troubled by the compulsions I'm getting lately, the ones where we would think about the blasphemy itself and then supplant it with a canceling word at the end of the sentence.

It gets uncontrollable sometimes.

Its so bad because sometimes I can't cancel everything and that leaves me like blaspheming the HS or even renouncing God.

Have you experienced something like this?

These are examples of the compulsions:
1. xxxx--is Satan not.
2. xxxx--is a demon not.
3. xxxx--is the Devil not.
4. xxxx--is Satan incarnate not.
5. F--k XXXX not.
6. I renounce XXXX not.
7. I deny XXXX not.

If you know the unpardonable sin, you know what the XXXX means.

I do not do it to insult the Spirit of grace, I just do it because there seems to be an urge (so this is a compulsion, right?), and sometimes I feel like I'm terribly bad and damned to Hell.

What's worse, I forget to put the not in the end sometimes whenever the thoughts snowball (come in several sequences simultaneously).

AND since I visualize the word sometimes, even though how hard I try, the canceling word can't seem to insert itself to the sentence.

EVEN THOUGH THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT SALVATION ITSELF IS AN IRREVOCABLE GIFT (i.e., ONE SAVED, FOREVER SAVED) - AND THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE.

Hey Parcmd,
I still think that there is a distinction here between what is referred to as an obsessional "spike" and what is referred to as the compulsive activity.
The way I have come to identify what represents an obsessional spike is to consider whether it is:
1. intrusive - it pushes it's way into the mental consciousness without the sufferer being able to stop it. (like you said "uncontrollable")
2.unwanted - the sufferer wants very badly to rid themselves of it, to erase, cancel, undo or argue with it.
3. It's presence brings on tremendous waves of anxiety and or guilt.
So to me it still appears that the portion of your statements before the word "not" represent what I would refer to as an obsessional "spike".
The second portion of your statement the word "not" would, in my opinion, (and this is just my own opinion based upon my own experiences with OCD- best to get the opinion of a professional), would fall into the realm of the compulsive activity.
Compulsive activities whether inwardly mental or outwardly physical aim to provide temporary relief by:
1. undoing or canceling the "spike".
2. seeking reassurance about the presence of the spike. 3. Fighting, debating, or trying to solve the doubts that the spike creates.
The compulsive activities are the things which fuel the engine of our OCD. The unwanted/intrusive spike causes the anxiety and the compulsion attempts to alleviate the anxiety, but always fails to do so and instead takes the anxiety up another notch and increases the intensity and frequency of the spike itself.
So the only way I have been able to gain any ground in the war of my own OCD is to allow the presence of the "spike" without engaging in the compulsive activity. This is hard because to do so will in the beginning cause an increase in the level of anxiety and the urge to do the compulsive activity is certainly overwhelming. That's why many need the help of a professional to bolster them in their therapy.
You are ever in my prayers.
Mitzi

 

[ArmorofGod18]

So what are you trying to say here?