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ArmouredSaint

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so alot of the threads in here aren't where I'm at. i dont abuse cough syrup or drink too much.I'm a pot smoker with some other things going on.maybe the pot is why I feel alone,it alienates people big time. I dont get to the point I can't walk,I just live this way.Losing my grip on things.It doesn't seem to be like anyone elses addiction because thats what the mind tells you.I'm tired of everthing
 

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Hugs to you both!! From your posts, I can see why you feel isolated. Pot smoking does have a certain stigma around around it. My husband was a potsmoker before we got married and he really struggled with it.

Although my abuses aren't with pot (food and drink, rather) I think we're all in the same boat. Whether it's abusing illegal, OTC, drink, sex, food, gambling, whatever, we're all Christians trusting in Him. We've got the best sponsor ever!!
 
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Most addictions cause a person to isolate in some way or another. That is why recovery groups are so important to most in recovery. It breaks the isolation and helps a person learn to function in society in a small group.

Understand that a drug is a drug, and it does affect the mind, body and spirit. God wants to fill that void you are trying to fill with the drugs. He is the only One that can fill it.
 
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AS- I see what you mean about how sometimes groups can just be a way to hook up with more lost people. That has definitly been my experience, unfortunatly. I understand how you want isolation. But you're not completely isolated, cause we're here for ya! ;) So you're not alone, really.

What about an accountability partner? Someone who want to be clean as much as you do, someone who can encourage you and pray with you?
 
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I've been struggling with weed for a long time. I justified using it for a long time because of Genesis 1:29- " And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

The fact remains, however, that weed is ILLEGAL. Since it is illegal, it is against God to smoke it, consume, etc. This was hard for me to come to terms with in my head. But, in my heart, I know it is wrong. I know this becuase of the guilt I experience. It is the Holy Spirit convicting you that is making you want to isolate yourself.

This is the same concept as nakedness I think. It would be wrong for us to walk around naked in the streets because we know better. When Adam and Eve didn't know better, it wasn't wrong.

Genesis 3:10- "And he (Adam) said, I heard thy (God's) voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself."

You isolate yourself because you are ashambed of what you are doing. You do not want others to know. Stopping will make you happier.

I've joned NA just recently and it is helping me becuase it is a support group.

Honestly, the last time I smoked was 4 days ago. That was also the last time I drank cough syrup. I've been trying to stop for a while and this time I am determined. I think God put this forum in my life to help me in that area. I joined NA 3 days ago.

When I am on drugs I do really stupid things like give away ten dollar bills to people I don't even know and I don't even have a car. Drugs make me an idiot.

Also I am on probabtion take a drug test every month. If I continue using I will end up in jail. I'm 22. I need to grow up and take responsibility. My behavior is ridiculous for someone my age.

Doing drugs makes people not want to be like me. it turns people off to the Christianity I profess.

The main thing wrong with drugs is that they keep you doing anything important in life. They rob you of time, money, friendships. They make you a slave.
 
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Welcome Mary!

You're right when you wrote that using drugs/alcohol affects our testimonies. I think that is one of the best reasons to quit. You're also right when you wrote they make you a slave, and as Christians aren't we supposed to be free?

I have a relapse the other night and I woke up feeling awful. Christ died for me and what do I do? I watch tv and get drunk. But then I realized that we as Christians are always struggling between the spirit and the flesh, and sometimes the flesh gets the upper hand on things. And a sin is a sin- one is not more offensive than the other. Getting high/drunk is just as sinful as not forgiving an enemy, or being prideful or lust. Of course they affect our bodies differently, but that thought made me feel better. We're all sinners and we all sin. Some of us have trouble with boasting, or white lies or lust, and some of us have substance abuse trouble. In the eyes of God sin is sin and through Christ we can overcome.


If it's not theologically correct, someone please right me.
 
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I smoked dope for about 12 years, did a lot of different things. I always felt alone, even before I started getting high, and at first the dope seemed to help. But what it really did was reinforce the pathology of all of my relationships and make me more sick.

I joined NA in '87 and have been clean ever since (6,650 days). Sure you can find sick people there, but there are plenty of folks who are serious about staying clean and you have to make the choice who you're going to run with.

God made us to be social creatures, we either get sick or get well by means of the relationships we allow ourselves to be in. I found that I could never learn to have healthy relationships until I refused to put myself in sick ones.
 
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wrong,i don't isolate myself because i'm ashamed.please don't assume my feelings for me,mary.
isolation is where i live because its how i deal with feelings and being alone works.
shame is when you're doing something everyone frowns on,well that can't be it because the entire group of mates i have are using drugs and alcohol to a greater extent than i am. Isolation is many things.many.
 
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greenonion said:
AS- I see what you mean about how sometimes groups can just be a way to hook up with more lost people. That has definitly been my experience, unfortunatly. I understand how you want isolation. But you're not completely isolated, cause we're here for ya! ;) So you're not alone, really.

What about an accountability partner? Someone who want to be clean as much as you do, someone who can encourage you and pray with you?
that just isn't for me because it would have to be someone I dont associate with.i dont have any super clean and sober friends Green.this is a situation thats evolved over my girlfriends death,im not the only one hurting but what has happened is drug use has now taken each of us into a safer world.nobody wants to talk about why. i abuse the pot because my coping skills are shot.thanks for all the feedback.Im listening but still very very angry.
 
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I started getting drunk at 17, later than most people I knew. Smoked pot... then acid which I didn't like but it was cheap... then ecstasy came along. Then crystal meth. Then when all my friends started doing heroin I quit all the hard stuff and stuck with the weed which is not nearly as dangerous and nasty as the other stuff I had done. When I was on pills and hard drugs I got a prescription for Xanax and altered the script (with a different color pen!! DUH)... I got caught but didn't go to jail at the time. I stopped using the "hard stuff" shortly after that, then a year later I was in a park at 10:30 pm with a friend. I guess there was a rule, no one in the park after 10... a cop came round and I had a warrant that I didn't know about from the year before. So I went to jail for 5 days, not really sure if I would be there for a long, long time or not. I was terrified. I changed my ways when I got out and stopped smoking pot because it would so not be worth it to get caught with pot go to jail. What is my point... I think it should be legal but it's not... it isn't worth it. Jail is not pleasant.

Another thing, if I had kept smoking pot I never would have grown and matured to the point of having a great marriage and family and job. Also it opened me up to numerous demonic attacks which I still see the effacts of to this day, occasionally.

(Also imagine all that tar that gets in the bowl of a pipe covering your lungs. Ewwwww)

The truth isyou won't be able to heal from your grief until you stop medicating yourself and give it all to the Lord. I didn't go to NA or anything. I went to outpatient rehab at some point but it didn't work. What worked was feeling the pain that I had been repressing and carrying for years and trusting the Lord to heal me from it, step by step. He did just as He said He would, and He will do the same for you.

God bless.
 
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By the way, at the time I was going through all my recovery and healing, I had a vivid dream of the end of the world and the Lord taking us to heaven. I saw the most amazing light and colors, and the Lord told me, "Drugs are nothing, you don't need them... just wait till you get to heaven. Heaven is BETTER than drugs..." It sounds weird but it is true. Any momentary pleasure we could get from substances here on earth is like a cracker jack prize compared to what the Lord has in store for us.
 
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hello there,

first off hello! my name is brent buck, i'm very new to this site so i thought i would go somewhere where i could encourage people. how is your walk with the Lord doing? i am doing great in God now. not always joyful, but in His will. i know the feeling that you are talking about. i have experienced first hand how people condemn pot smokers. do you often feel like there is something else besides the high now? like a voice that brings you down? for a time in my life, i was too stubborn to give up marijuana. i truely didn't believe that it was a problem. i don't know how much of your life that it consumes, but i want to let you know, i've been there man. i've been so alone in this life and in my lowest point of life, i was stoned sitting in my living room, in a nearly dark room, reading my bible.

i will encourage you and pray for you if you still need help in this! but, hopefully i didn't get too ahead of myself. drop me a line when you have the time. i look forward to chatting.

thanks,
dj dollar dog
 
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