I don't know why it's bad!

[Job in a Robe]

Okay, solots of my friends are like atheists cos I used to be one too. But now I'm not, and I find it really hard sometimes eing around them. When I try and say that I think sex before marriage is wrong, and it's wrong to do things with yourself (if you know what I mean) they say it's not. I tell them it says it's wrong in the Bible, but then they ask HY God says it's wrong? Well why does he? I know he's God and all, and that means you live by his rules, but they say there are so many other poeple on the planet doing so many other things that there is no right and wrong. It's so confusing. Why is something that is natural wrong in God's eyes?Why did he make us want to do these things? I don't know what to tell them

 

[El Taco]

I don't know, myself. I face much the same problem myself, having a similar background. I just tell them it's because God says so, but they just won't believe! I heard something about spilling your seed on the groung being wrong, but there's so many interpretations. Onan refused to impregnate his brother's wife, so he took care of the situation by letting it hit the ground, not the girl. What if he just pulled out? How do we really know this is really "you know what"? What if it isn't wrong at all?

 

[inHisgrip]

Well, if I am getting your question right, why does God say sex before marriage is wrong?
I would have to say that it is a sacred act to be committed between husband and wife. When we give ourselves freely to others outside of marriage, we are giving away the gift that was meant only for our spouse.
Also, when we are promiscious, sacred sex loses its specialness. People will consider sex to be love, which it is not. Sex should be the result of love.
IMHO
In Him

 

[El Taco]

Just because Onan defied God and did his "deed" shouldn't mean that you can't. He defied God, I'm not. I don't think that "self gratification" is a sin. Onan may never have done it in the first place.

 

[inHisgrip]

I don't think the issue with Onan was that he spilled his seed so much as he blatantly disregarded a command from God. He disobeyed the Law of the time.
Masturbation is a very touchy topic with christians and you will get varying replys. I personally think its wrong because almost always there is lustful thoughts going along with it, including pornography. All sexual acts, in my opinion should remain between man and wife.
In Him

 

[Job in a Robe]

yea - see that's it. I'm not defying God. I don't mean to. But you have natural urges, especially if ou're trying to stay celebate. And I just don't see why we are made that way if it's bad.

 

[El Taco]

It's a good way to quell those urges. I know that someday I'll get married and lose my virginity, but until then, I'd like not to explode.

 

[Job in a Robe]

The thing is, my vicar says it is wrong, but I can't find anywhere in the bible that says that - and I have looked. So why is m*st*rbation bad?

 

[seebs]

Honestly, there's only limited Biblical support for condemning premarital sex, and any condemnation of purely personal sexual activity requires a great deal of reading-in-to.

 

[Job in a Robe]

Really? That's interesting. Thanks. I thought I must jst be wrong because I couldn't find it. But my vicar is still sort of right isn't he, because I am supposed to tust him to interpret the Bible properly, right?

 

[seebs]

Really? That's interesting. Thanks. I thought I must jst be wrong because I couldn't find it. But my vicar is still sort of right isn't he, because I am supposed to tust him to interpret the Bible properly, right?

I dunno. I don't necessarily trust church people to interpret the Bible correctly; they often repeat what they were told by someone else who repeated it... It may not actually be true, just widely accepted.

 

[Lifesaver]

Because lust is wrong, and look at the tragic results of promiscuity in the past decades.

 

[Spike~]

So, Job, instead of reading the Bible and thinking for yourself, you'ld prefer to let someone else do the thinking for you? That just caught my eye.