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Chivalry? I remember that word but I haven't experienced it in so long... Do you gentlemen still exist?

You can be a gentleman to me anytime and I promise, I won't try to punch you.:)

That doesn't work if the woman isn't attracted to you. If anything, she'll be annoyed and ignore you, change the subject, bring up her "boyfriend" that really doesn't exist, etc. Most women, when they speak of chivalry, are talking about some ideal guy that they have in their head.

Furthermore, many of us guys figured why bother if we're just going to be turned down every time. There's no reason to get our hopes up.
 
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Out of the Flames said:
Chivalry? I remember that word but I haven't experienced it in so long... Do you gentlemen still exist?

You can be a gentleman to me anytime and I promise, I won't try to punch you.:)
Chilvary is dead, or left to those who like to be abused. I am researching how to become a player! :D
 
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GeorgiaGuy said:
That doesn't work if the woman isn't attracted to you. If anything, she'll be annoyed and ignore you, change the subject, bring up her "boyfriend" that really doesn't exist, etc. Most women, when they speak of chivalry, are talking about some ideal guy that they have in their head.

Furthermore, many of us guys figured why bother if we're just going to be turned down every time. There's no reason to get our hopes up.
Just because some women can't be ladies doesn't mean you shouldn't be a gentleman anyway. It's just a good habit to have.
 
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Out of the Flames said:
Just because some women can't be ladies doesn't mean you shouldn't be a gentleman anyway. It's just a good habit to have.

Why don't you admit that if the guy isn't what you've hoped for in a mate, that no matter how nice he is, he's just wasting his time.

Women like to talk about a very nice guy, but if they aren't physically attracted to him, it doesn't matter. You're going to end up lonely and single for a much longer time.

To be honest, I think that much of today's problems in the relationship world, whereby men and women are single much longer, has to do with the fact that women are now being assertive in who they want to date, or who they're willing to date. In the old days, women didn't have as much of a say, and most didn't care quite as much, as if the man liked them, they tended to soak it up moreso than they now do. Today's women rarely respect men, play with their minds, tease them, only to turn them down.

Who wants to play that game.
 
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GeorgiaGuy said:
Why don't you admit that if the guy isn't what you've hoped for in a mate, that no matter how nice he is, he's just wasting his time.

Women like to talk about a very nice guy, but if they aren't physically attracted to him, it doesn't matter. You're going to end up lonely and single for a much longer time.

To be honest, I think that much of today's problems in the relationship world, whereby men and women are single much longer, has to do with the fact that women are now being assertive in who they want to date, or who they're willing to date. In the old days, women didn't have as much of a say, and most didn't care quite as much, as if the man liked them, they tended to soak it up moreso than they now do. Today's women rarely respect men, play with their minds, tease them, only to turn them down.

Who wants to play that game.
That's a really bitter way of approaching the situation. I pray that someday you do meet the One that changes your heart because with your current attitude, you'll probably be single for a while.

Obviously if a man is totally contrary to what I'm looking for, then no, there will be no future. I have standards and I don't believe I should have to compromise, nor would I expect a man to compromise his.

But on the other hand, I've also been in relationships that started based on attraction and in EVERY case, it was a mistake. One seemed like a good guy but I had 2 cracked ribs before it was over. One swore that I was the greatest thing that ever happened to him and then turned out to be the most possessive, obsessive creep I've ever crossed paths with. One was pretty good for a while, but cared more about himself than me... I was just convenient to have around and when I stopped being convenient, he was emotionally abusive.

So yes, contrary to what you believe, I AM looking for the nice guy. I'm not afraid to admit that my way was not the right way and take higher road. I fully expect that when I find my nice guy that he will also be attractive to me, where other women will have passed him by not thinking he was.
 
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GeorgiaGuy said:
Why don't you admit that if the guy isn't what you've hoped for in a mate, that no matter how nice he is, he's just wasting his time.

Women like to talk about a very nice guy, but if they aren't physically attracted to him, it doesn't matter. You're going to end up lonely and single for a much longer time.

To be honest, I think that much of today's problems in the relationship world, whereby men and women are single much longer, has to do with the fact that women are now being assertive in who they want to date, or who they're willing to date. In the old days, women didn't have as much of a say, and most didn't care quite as much, as if the man liked them, they tended to soak it up moreso than they now do. Today's women rarely respect men, play with their minds, tease them, only to turn them down.

Who wants to play that game.
Why do you sound bitter toward women?
Some women are not nice, they played game with men, but I also found some men who also played game with women's heart. The root of all these problems is sin on each others' heart...not because of gender roles, IMO.

Chivalry isn't dead, especially among Christians. I respect men who is nice, a gentleman and I support men's leadership regardless of my romantic interests on him. Don't we all need to love and respect one another as a family of God as brothers and sisters?

Much grace to you.
 
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It has been set up On Msn. Listed as Dateless Waif Club
Good work, wt, I was thinking of a poll to see what IM'er most people had, but it's easy to get MSN, so there you go.

Is it a private chat room? I hope.

Saturday 5/22 is good for me. Sometime after 9pm Central
 
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Good work, wt, I was thinking of a poll to see what IM'er most people had, but it's easy to get MSN, so there you go.

Is it a private chat room? I hope.

Saturday 5/22 is good for me. Sometime after 9pm Central
I use both Yahoo and MSN. But never been to MSN Chat before. How do I get there? :help: thx.
 
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Out of the Flames said:
Chivalry? I remember that word but I haven't experienced it in so long... Do you gentlemen still exist?

You can be a gentleman to me anytime and I promise, I won't try to punch you.:)
I was brought up to give women the respect that they need and deserve, (some people think I'm weird for that tho'). I see nothing wrong with opening a door for the ladies, letting them go first in a long line (or even a short one) and doing just what the Bible tells us to do, lift them up and exult(sp) them.

I mean come on guy's where else other than God can we find someone who will be there for us in our time of need, make us feel better, and love us when we start wearing our pants up to our elbows?

It is time that we bring Chivalry back from the dead and treat women the way that they deserve.
 
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Tenorvoice said:
I was brought up to give women the respect that they need and deserve, (some people think I'm weird for that tho'). I see nothing wrong with opening a door for the ladies, letting them go first in a long line (or even a short one) and doing just what the Bible tells us to do, lift them up and exult(sp) them.

I mean come on guy's where else other than God can we find someone who will be there for us in our time of need, make us feel better, and love us when we start wearing our pants up to our elbows?

It is time that we bring Chivalry back from the dead and treat women the way that they deserve.
Why couldn't I have met someone with your thinking? Never give up that practice. It's a rare and truly wonderful thing to find in a man nowadays!
 
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Iv'e been in central Va my whole life and never gone mush of anywhere But I belive that God will send me the godly woman that He has planned for me. I just have to wait on Him timing and not mine, for mine is flawed and His is always on time. (but that is a nother story in itsself. ;)

peace ya'll
 
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brettnolan said:
Good work, wt, I was thinking of a poll to see what IM'er most people had, but it's easy to get MSN, so there you go.

Is it a private chat room? I hope.

Saturday 5/22 is good for me. Sometime after 9pm Central
Darn I'm going to be on a Mission trip to Tean Quest in Pa. this weekend where we will be helping build for the camp.

So I will have to join up on that later . ;)
 
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