I dont feel guilty when I touch..problem?

[brohammer26]

Lot of people say it is sin, lot of people says it is not. A lot of people say with the kind of boderline not sure of sin's to listen to your conscience. I have done research and I get the same answer. Some people say it is a gift from god to use to control ourself to not have immoral sex. Others say it is a sin against the body because the spirity is in it. The bible does not say anything specific. The problem is I just do not feel guilty about it. It keeps me from chaseing women for sex which I had a huge problem with in the past. I know this has been covered before, I guess my question is more along the lines of should I feel wired for not feeling guilt for it?

 

[Life2Christ]

I can't answer that question because everyone's fantasies are different. Some are perverse, others are "run of the mill". Personally, I would not feel guilty about "run of the mill" fantasies unless you are using porn which is totally immoral.

 

[brohammer26]

Yes I agree with the porn thing. I cant say sexual thoughts dont pop into my mind becaues they do..of course. I try to block them and it is more for a stress relief to help me get about my day. I try to not do it often or abuse it in any manner. I tried for sometime to not do it but it just didnt seem to be working for me.

 

[BFine]

I don't believe giving into our flesh each time is the answer--I believe we should work on growing in the faith and becoming stronger Christians...being about the Lord's business etc.

A lot of people struggle with their fleshly nature-- and some do touch without sinning(not lusting/dreaming about having sex.)

The sin in masturbating would be if you are lusting/or dreaming of having sex with another person (unless that person is your spouse) -- since you aren't married, then
avoid lusting.


*The continual rejection/denial of Christ is what sends someone to hell.

 

[brohammer26]

<edit> I have looked at old posts and a lot of people say touching yourself is ok if you have a wife and you only think about her. So if you are single you are not allowed to touch or have sex you are just out of luck? The answer:Find a wife. Ok yeah that is not a simple thing. I have been trying that for a long time..cant just go down to the store and pick one out. The applicant pool of people who are truely walking the path and waiting for marriage is like 2% of the population and among those you still have like to eachother and be attracted. Sorry for the rant I am just perplexed at this particular topic. It seemed like in biblical times getting a wife was a bit easier.

I feel as if god lets you do certain things to a point of your understanding and will punish you if you dont change certain things. I had that happen to me with alcohol and was punished severly. I also had a sex problem before comeing to god and I guess I still in a way do with touching yourself..but I am having a hard time seeing it as a problem becaue it was soo much better than what I was in the past. But at last I ask for guidance and forgiveness becuase I truely do not know.

Oh yes and 3 months. When you go to basic training they put stuff in the water to lower your sex drive. Plus you are so focused on training and making sure you dont do anything to stay any longer at boot camp the last thing you think of is touching yourself or sex. So really I not sure if that counts lol.

 

[BornAgainGrace414]

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"Oh, what joy for those whose disobedience is forgiven, whose sins are put out of sight. Yes, what joy for those whose sin is no longer counted against them by the Lord"
Pray and put your sexual tempations in the hands of Jesus, it takes courage, but when you pray in that moment it works, and is very joyful afterwards!
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[mindfulness]

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Onan found out the hard way.

In Judaism, Islam and most sects of Christianity, masturbation is a grave sin. It is spilling "seed" which is inherently evil.

 

[Life2Christ]

Onan found out the hard way.

Onan was commanded to impregnate his brother's wife to carry on the family. what does that have to do with the OP? I'll answer that: nothing.

 

[blankCrossfire]

The problem I have with masturbation is that it doesn't glorify God in any way.
You say masturbation relieves other sexual temptations or stress but the fact that you need to touch doesn't relieve this problem at all.

What is on your mind so much so that you have to relieve the stress by masturbating?
If you put your thoughts on righteous things, on Jesus, would you still be tempted to touch?

I have an extremely hard time believing you would. I don't see how masturbation isn't a sin to be honest. Are you willing to put your eternity on the line? Do you like to gamble?

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

Before I knew Jesus and before I invited Jesus into my heart, 12 years ago, I never felt guilty and never felt bad about having sex with different women or masturbating.

But once Jesus came into my heart and I was born again, I now detest sexual immorality and I detest masturbating.

That's evidence of a real conversion and truly being born again, how you feel about sin.

If a person don't feel bad when they sin then that's evidence they never been born again of the Holy Spirit.

God bless.

 

[Ant1986]

Yes I agree with the porn thing. I cant say sexual thoughts dont pop into my mind becaues they do..of course. I try to block them and it is more for a stress relief to help me get about my day. I try to not do it often or abuse it in any manner. I tried for sometime to not do it but it just didnt seem to be working for me.

In the post above you mentioned that sexual thoughts pop into your mind therefore you're sinning whether you feel guilty or not. I totally understand that it's a stress relief but if relieving that stress (masturbation) causes you to sin then you need to stop, repent and turn from your sin. How you came to not feeling guilty isn't the issue here.

Stopping this habit is difficult and the temptation is something i deal with everyday and will probably deal with for the rest of my life. Please don't take this as me condemning you because I'm not and I say this is in love.

 

[BFine]

Lot of people say it is sin, lot of people says it is not. A lot of people say with the kind of boderline not sure of sin's to listen to your conscience. I have done research and I get the same answer. Some people say it is a gift from god to use to control ourself to not have immoral sex. Others say it is a sin against the body because the spirity is in it. The bible does not say anything specific. The problem is I just do not feel guilty about it. It keeps me from chaseing women for sex which I had a huge problem with in the past. I know this has been covered before, I guess my question is more along the lines of should I feel wired for not feeling guilt for it?

*Are you engaging in sexual fantasy with another person when you are masturbating?
If so, then that would be lusting and lusting is sin...whether you feel
guilty about that lusting(if you are doing that when self pleasuring)
doesn't nullify what the Lord said about lusting being sinful.

 

[brohammer26]

i feel guily if a sexual thought pops in and i let it stay and and i focus on it. But i dont feel guity that the thought popped in. Obviously this is of some concern to me becuase i am asking about it.

 

[Embracer]

The problem I have with masturbation is that it doesn't glorify God in any way.

<< 1 Corinthians 10:31 >>

So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.

 

[Prayer Circle]

Lot of people say it is sin, lot of people says it is not. A lot of people say with the kind of boderline not sure of sin's to listen to your conscience. I have done research and I get the same answer. Some people say it is a gift from god to use to control ourself to not have immoral sex. Others say it is a sin against the body because the spirity is in it. The bible does not say anything specific. The problem is I just do not feel guilty about it. It keeps me from chaseing women for sex which I had a huge problem with in the past. I know this has been covered before, I guess my question is more along the lines of should I feel wired for not feeling guilt for it?

Some people say...
Other people say...
What do you say?
God has known you before the womb. There is nothing you can do that God does not know. And if God is love, and he loves you, he can never not love you.

 

[brohammer26]

I say I want to give it my best to do it as little as possible..but not to where I am risking health problems becuase of the lack of release. Stay away from lust and porn

 

[znr]

I say I want to give it my best to do it as little as possible..but not to where I am risking health problems becuase of the lack of release. Stay away from lust and porn

You seem to have a good handle on your life and I wanted to just encourage you to continue to treat yourself nicely, as you are now. It's refreshing to read your posts in this thread.

 

[hedrick]

The OP brought up the question of feeling guilty. It's worth noting that consciences aren't necessarily signs of whether something is right. While God may illuminate us directly, in normal practice parents put effort into developing children's conscience. Your feelings will depend to a large extent upon your background. Part of being a Christian is developing your conscience.

Paying attention to your conscience is good. You shouldn't normally do something you feel wrong about, unless you have good reason to think it's the best alternative. At times that vague feeling that something isn't right is telling you something important. But it's not an infallible guide whether something is wrong or not, at least not in areas where you haven't developed it.

I believe that masturbation isn't always wrong, depending upon why do it and what you're thinking. It sounds to me like you're OK. It's not dealt with in the Bible (sorry, but Onan is about someone not doing their duty). However how we think about the opposite sex is certainly a concern of Christ's.

Also, you should generally prioritize issues. Given some of the things on your plate, even if masturbation is wrong (and I don't think it is), that's not where you should be putting your effort unless it's causing you problems in your relationships with women.

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

Masturbation is wrong, simple as that. Did Jesus ever do it? NO way!

When a person does it they usually have immoral sexualised thoughts at the time time, and that's a sin!

God bless.

 

[CounselorForChrist]

I believe masturbation is only a sin if you are lusting while doing so. If you arne't thinking of ANYTHING, then I think its not a sin. Alot of people seem to think guys can't get themselves "happy" unless they think of something lustfully, but its not true. You can train yourself to avoid lustful thoughts and still get happy in order to pleasure yourself. I don't feel guilty after either, only when I have indeed lusted did I feel guilty.