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I've heard and read so much about "having a relationship with Jesus and God", but I just don't get it.

To me the Bible is a gigantic rule book telling you that if you don't follow every single detail of it, God will make you suffer for eternity.

How am I supposed to feel any love for that??

How am I supposed to just be like "Ok. My life means nothing. I'm just a puppet of God following all of His rules. I'm just a robot. I'm ok with all of this."

They say, "Call upon the name of the Lord while He may be found".
I try my best. I call out to both Jesus and God. Nothing. No feelings, no peace, no joy. Nothing.
I scream to both of them. I ask for understanding. I ask for wisdom.

Nothing.

How am I supposed to have a relationship with them if they won't even talk to me?

What am I doing wrong!?!
Am I asking for help in the wrong way???


1 John 2:6
"Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did".

That scripture infuriates me because its telling me to give up everything I love to do and just be as Jesus was. I want to follow this rule, but it makes me angry because I love to do so many things that I can't see Jesus doing.

I'm a college student studying computer science. I have an obsessive nature. I love to obsess over things that I enjoy and block out the rest of the world.

I don't see Jesus as the type who would be a computer scientist or obsess over studies.
So, I guess I should just abandon my love for computers and change to something else or drop out of college all together because Jesus would not obsess over anything, but I obsess over all of my studies.

I guess being a christian means that I have to walk along the sides of the street every day calling out for people to repent and turn to God, because that's exactly what I think Jesus would be doing right now.

I've also been reading about how people don't think playing video games is a christian thing to do, even is there is not violence in them.
I've been playing video games ever since I can remember.
I've successfully stopped playing violent games, but that's not good enough??

Also, Idols.
As I said before, I obsess over anything and everything I love to do.

For example, I love to paint Bob Ross paintings.
The other day I watched Bob Ross videos for the entire day without having the desire to pick my Bible once.
So, I guess that's an idol and I need to cut it out of my life.

I guess I need to cut everything I love out of my life that I love to obsess over completely and
just twiddle my thumbs and sleep when I have nothing to do.

How am I supposed to do all of this!?!

All I know is that I've been hearing "You're going to Hell if you're not a Christian" ever since I can remember.

If there was a switch that I could turn on that would make me ok with all of this, I would flip it immediately.
But of course there is not!
How am I supposed to change my view of everything I have ever known!?!

 

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The will of God for you is to believe on his Son.

If you believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, you will be saved eternally and your name will be written in The Book of Life, never to be removed. Your salvation will never be lost.

All God wants is for you to recognize your sins, your helpless state, and put your faith in Jesus who justifies sinners.

No "do xyz things" in order to be saved. Just believe. Trust his blood shed on the cross paid for the debt you owed God, trust him for salvation.

From there, you will walk with your Savior at your own pace. Don't believe everything you hear man say, man likes to burden God's children. Scripture says God's commands are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3. So if you are overwhelmed at that point, there's a good chance your listening to man's traditions of what scripture says and not what God actually wants or expects from you.

Hope this helps.
 
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I've heard and read so much about "having a relationship with Jesus and God", but I just don't get it.

To me the Bible is a gigantic rule book telling you that if you don't follow every single detail of it, God will make you suffer for eternity.

How am I supposed to feel any love for that??

How am I supposed to just be like "Ok. My life means nothing. I'm just a puppet of God following all of His rules. I'm just a robot. I'm ok with all of this."

They say, "Call upon the name of the Lord while He may be found".
I try my best. I call out to both Jesus and God. Nothing. No feelings, no peace, no joy. Nothing.
I scream to both of them. I ask for understanding. I ask for wisdom.

Nothing.

How am I supposed to have a relationship with them if they won't even talk to me?

What am I doing wrong!?!
Am I asking for help in the wrong way???


1 John 2:6
"Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did".

That scripture infuriates me because its telling me to give up everything I love to do and just be as Jesus was. I want to follow this rule, but it makes me angry because I love to do so many things that I can't see Jesus doing.

I'm a college student studying computer science. I have an obsessive nature. I love to obsess over things that I enjoy and block out the rest of the world.

I don't see Jesus as the type who would be a computer scientist or obsess over studies.
So, I guess I should just abandon my love for computers and change to something else or drop out of college all together because Jesus would not obsess over anything, but I obsess over all of my studies.

I guess being a christian means that I have to walk along the sides of the street every day calling out for people to repent and turn to God, because that's exactly what I think Jesus would be doing right now.

I've also been reading about how people don't think playing video games is a christian thing to do, even is there is not violence in them.
I've been playing video games ever since I can remember.
I've successfully stopped playing violent games, but that's not good enough??

Also, Idols.
As I said before, I obsess over anything and everything I love to do.

For example, I love to paint Bob Ross paintings.
The other day I watched Bob Ross videos for the entire day without having the desire to pick my Bible once.
So, I guess that's an idol and I need to cut it out of my life.

I guess I need to cut everything I love out of my life that I love to obsess over completely and
just twiddle my thumbs and sleep when I have nothing to do.

How am I supposed to do all of this!?!

All I know is that I've been hearing "You're going to Hell if you're not a Christian" ever since I can remember.

If there was a switch that I could turn on that would make me ok with all of this, I would flip it immediately.
But of course there is not!
How am I supposed to change my view of everything I have ever known!?!

..you do nothing wrong honey .

trust me - i feel exact the same as you .

the kitten i love feels the same , too -
yet she was very close to Him , untill 3? years ago

..there isnt a day she complains and asks what she did wrong ,
or how come it so changed

it's a Desert , these days

but don't give up -
it is not His fault : but the enemy realm is fighting hard to block

and that is no oneliner...trust me ...
 
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I've heard and read so much about "having a relationship with Jesus and God", but I just don't get it.

To me the Bible is a gigantic rule book telling you that if you don't follow every single detail of it, God will make you suffer for eternity.

How am I supposed to feel any love for that??

How am I supposed to just be like "Ok. My life means nothing. I'm just a puppet of God following all of His rules. I'm just a robot. I'm ok with all of this."

They say, "Call upon the name of the Lord while He may be found".
I try my best. I call out to both Jesus and God. Nothing. No feelings, no peace, no joy. Nothing.
I scream to both of them. I ask for understanding. I ask for wisdom.

Nothing.

How am I supposed to have a relationship with them if they won't even talk to me?

What am I doing wrong!?!
Am I asking for help in the wrong way???


1 John 2:6
"Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did".

That scripture infuriates me because its telling me to give up everything I love to do and just be as Jesus was. I want to follow this rule, but it makes me angry because I love to do so many things that I can't see Jesus doing.

I'm a college student studying computer science. I have an obsessive nature. I love to obsess over things that I enjoy and block out the rest of the world.

I don't see Jesus as the type who would be a computer scientist or obsess over studies.
So, I guess I should just abandon my love for computers and change to something else or drop out of college all together because Jesus would not obsess over anything, but I obsess over all of my studies.

I guess being a christian means that I have to walk along the sides of the street every day calling out for people to repent and turn to God, because that's exactly what I think Jesus would be doing right now.

I've also been reading about how people don't think playing video games is a christian thing to do, even is there is not violence in them.
I've been playing video games ever since I can remember.
I've successfully stopped playing violent games, but that's not good enough??

Also, Idols.
As I said before, I obsess over anything and everything I love to do.

For example, I love to paint Bob Ross paintings.
The other day I watched Bob Ross videos for the entire day without having the desire to pick my Bible once.
So, I guess that's an idol and I need to cut it out of my life.

I guess I need to cut everything I love out of my life that I love to obsess over completely and
just twiddle my thumbs and sleep when I have nothing to do.

How am I supposed to do all of this!?!

All I know is that I've been hearing "You're going to Hell if you're not a Christian" ever since I can remember.

If there was a switch that I could turn on that would make me ok with all of this, I would flip it immediately.
But of course there is not!
How am I supposed to change my view of everything I have ever known!?!
If you're okay with the person you are now and the things you do then you are fine. Just don't be a bad person. The city of God is an option, and is forever. Be a good person, never be a bad person if you don't have to. Change some bad ways if need be. It's not too late, You're not lost.
 
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If you're okay with the person you are now and the things you do then you are fine. Just don't be a bad person. The city of God is an option, and is forever. Be a good person, never be a bad person. You're not lost.
You don't have to give up things you like or your possessions.
 
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I have often felt like I was praying to God and he wasn't listening. I believe this to be because of sin in my own life. Nothing you described, but just in my own life.

I also have struggled with playing computer games, for their perception of being non-Christian. I don't have a great answer here either because I've been playing them since I was little and I enjoy them. Perhaps this is just the opinion of man muddying the precepts of God.

Also, the "What Would Jesus Do" mentality falls short at times because we aren't Jesus, and we have different responsibilities than he did. Do what Jesus would do if he was a creative, talented person with a computer science degree.

Also, give yourself a break, you need it. His grace is very valuable -- don't overlook it.
 
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How am I supposed to do all of this!?!
You're not, because you cannot. You're living out a performance mentality, based on works-salvation. If man could save himself, Jesus went through an awful lot for nothing.

Read Romans 7. Paul details how he struggled with performance issues. No matter what he did, he could get nowhere.

That is exactly how it's designed to work. In Galatians 2 Paul explains that the law is the tutor that leads men to Christ. Through the law, he says, he died to the law, that he might live to Christ.

By trying to keep the law, you learn you cannot. You learn you need a Savior. That's the way it's designed to work.

The problem is you were raised with the Bible as a rule book, and God as a harsh taskmaster. This is not the picture Jesus paints. The Bible is a love letter, and God, a loving Father - so loving, He sacrificed Jesus in order to bring you to Him.

Pray that your carnal mental filters would be removed, and that the pure Gospel would be implanted in your heart (see the prayers in Eph 1 and 3). Confess that you cannot effect your own salvation, and begin to trust in the salvation Christ freely offers you. It is the prayer of faith that saves.
 
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I've heard and read so much about "having a relationship with Jesus and God", but I just don't get it.

To me the Bible is a gigantic rule book telling you that if you don't follow every single detail of it, God will make you suffer for eternity.

How am I supposed to feel any love for that??

How am I supposed to just be like "Ok. My life means nothing. I'm just a puppet of God following all of His rules. I'm just a robot. I'm ok with all of this."

They say, "Call upon the name of the Lord while He may be found".
I try my best. I call out to both Jesus and God. Nothing. No feelings, no peace, no joy. Nothing.
I scream to both of them. I ask for understanding. I ask for wisdom.

Nothing.

How am I supposed to have a relationship with them if they won't even talk to me?

What am I doing wrong!?!
Am I asking for help in the wrong way???


1 John 2:6
"Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did".

That scripture infuriates me because its telling me to give up everything I love to do and just be as Jesus was. I want to follow this rule, but it makes me angry because I love to do so many things that I can't see Jesus doing.

I'm a college student studying computer science. I have an obsessive nature. I love to obsess over things that I enjoy and block out the rest of the world.

I don't see Jesus as the type who would be a computer scientist or obsess over studies.
So, I guess I should just abandon my love for computers and change to something else or drop out of college all together because Jesus would not obsess over anything, but I obsess over all of my studies.

I guess being a christian means that I have to walk along the sides of the street every day calling out for people to repent and turn to God, because that's exactly what I think Jesus would be doing right now.

I've also been reading about how people don't think playing video games is a christian thing to do, even is there is not violence in them.
I've been playing video games ever since I can remember.
I've successfully stopped playing violent games, but that's not good enough??

Also, Idols.
As I said before, I obsess over anything and everything I love to do.

For example, I love to paint Bob Ross paintings.
The other day I watched Bob Ross videos for the entire day without having the desire to pick my Bible once.
So, I guess that's an idol and I need to cut it out of my life.

I guess I need to cut everything I love out of my life that I love to obsess over completely and
just twiddle my thumbs and sleep when I have nothing to do.

How am I supposed to do all of this!?!

All I know is that I've been hearing "You're going to Hell if you're not a Christian" ever since I can remember.

If there was a switch that I could turn on that would make me ok with all of this, I would flip it immediately.
But of course there is not!
How am I supposed to change my view of everything I have ever known!?!

Lets give a scenario of a parent and a child.

As a small kid eager to be independent, the rules from parents seem like a laundry list. Go to bed. Brush your teeth. Take a shower. Eat your vegetables. Even if we can repeat why we do what we do, its seems ritualistic. Naturally, I don't feel like going to bed, brushing my teeth, sometimes taking a shower, eating veggies. I just wanna play.It feels forced. I just want my mommy and daddy to feed me good tasty food and let me play all the time, I don't worry about money and laundry, not even in mind responsibilities.I want my needs met, when I want it, I would cry for it and annoy my parents if they don't give me what I want.

But when you mature, maybe you went through having cavities before valuing brushing your teeth, maybe because of your schedule you value the bed more, you saw how proper hygiene is needed and desired and how much you hate how others don't take care of themselves.All the things that were once laundry list, now being brought up to remembrance and valued. You can relate to it, and appreciate your parents more for teaching you it. Maybe you end up asking more questions, hanging with them more to understand how they overcame, etc.

Saying all this to tell you that no you're are not a puppet, you are your Father's child.Your heavenly Father is guiding you how to live this life fruitfully. So just like how a child here builds a relationship with their parent, same here:

1. You have to trust Him and believe in the promises He establishes. You have to believe that your Father loves you because He does.
2. Get to know the heart of God through the Word. Yes its a lot, but understand why its establish and look through His instruction through that lens.
3. Apply what you've learned, observe, grow and aim to get mature. You will find the value of your faith through experience and action. Some are warranted, some may not. Some may cost you, some may not cost you much.
 
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Lets give a scenario of a parent and a child.

As a small kid eager to be independent, the rules from parents seem like a laundry list. Go to bed. Brush your teeth. Take a shower. Eat your vegetables. Even if we can repeat why we do what we do, its seems ritualistic. Naturally, I don't feel like going to bed, brushing my teeth, sometimes taking a shower, eating veggies. I just wanna play.It feels forced. I just want my mommy and daddy to feed me good tasty food and let me play all the time, I don't worry about money and laundry, not even in mind responsibilities.I want my needs met, when I want it, I would cry for it and annoy my parents if they don't give me what I want.

But when you mature, maybe you went through having cavities before valuing brushing your teeth, maybe because of your schedule you value the bed more, you saw how proper hygiene is needed and desired and how much you hate how others don't take care of themselves.All the things that were once laundry list, now being brought up to remembrance and valued. You can relate to it, and appreciate your parents more for teaching you it. Maybe you end up asking more questions, hanging with them more to understand how they overcame, etc.

Saying all this to tell you that no you're are not a puppet, you are your Father's child.Your heavenly Father is guiding you how to live this life fruitfully. So just like how a child here builds a relationship with their parent, same here:

1. You have to trust Him and believe in the promises He establishes. You have to believe that your Father loves you because He does.
2. Get to know the heart of God through the Word. Yes its a lot, but understand why its establish and look through His instruction through that lens.
3. Apply what you've learned, observe, grow and aim to get mature. You will find the value of your faith through experience and action. Some are warranted, some may not. Some may cost you, some may not cost you much.
My grandpa raised me well, to eat veggies, brush my teeth, and take showers, all that, but it isn't desirable. The way HE actually raised me is. stories, video games, horror books and movies. He even gave me good cool knowledge and cool insight, with some helpful wisdom as well with expectations that I go to school and when I graduated he drove me to college and wanted me to graduate. He wanted me to get job but I didn't know what job I wanted. Anyway, he did his part, and I did mine eventually. I just wasnt aware at the time of what he wanted or what I had to do.I just knew I was alive because of God and there. He just said go to school everyday and I graduated. There is no one way to raise a kid and mixtures of basics and cool are better than only prerequisites and it takes time and effort to raise a kid properly, and pays off. There's nothing wrong with letting kids play to their heart and souls content. He taught me about God and the Devil and brought me to church and was a very responsible man, and I respected him then and even more now. He yelled at me which is what cut respect, but he said he didi it to teach me and because he loves and cares about me and had reasons for it, so I'm over it, but I hated it at the time because it didin't feel right. It felt like molestation to a high degree. MY grandfather is a good grandfather.
Lets give a scenario of a parent and a child.

As a small kid eager to be independent, the rules from parents seem like a laundry list. Go to bed. Brush your teeth. Take a shower. Eat your vegetables. Even if we can repeat why we do what we do, its seems ritualistic. Naturally, I don't feel like going to bed, brushing my teeth, sometimes taking a shower, eating veggies. I just wanna play.It feels forced. I just want my mommy and daddy to feed me good tasty food and let me play all the time, I don't worry about money and laundry, not even in mind responsibilities.I want my needs met, when I want it, I would cry for it and annoy my parents if they don't give me what I want.

But when you mature, maybe you went through having cavities before valuing brushing your teeth, maybe because of your schedule you value the bed more, you saw how proper hygiene is needed and desired and how much you hate how others don't take care of themselves.All the things that were once laundry list, now being brought up to remembrance and valued. You can relate to it, and appreciate your parents more for teaching you it. Maybe you end up asking more questions, hanging with them more to understand how they overcame, etc.

Saying all this to tell you that no you're are not a puppet, you are your Father's child.Your heavenly Father is guiding you how to live this life fruitfully. So just like how a child here builds a relationship with their parent, same here:

1. You have to trust Him and believe in the promises He establishes. You have to believe that your Father loves you because He does.
2. Get to know the heart of God through the Word. Yes its a lot, but understand why its establish and look through His instruction through that lens.
3. Apply what you've learned, observe, grow and aim to get mature. You will find the value of your faith through experience and action. Some are warranted, some may not. Some may cost you, some may not cost you much.
 
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Lets give a scenario of a parent and a child.

As a small kid eager to be independent, the rules from parents seem like a laundry list. Go to bed. Brush your teeth. Take a shower. Eat your vegetables. Even if we can repeat why we do what we do, its seems ritualistic. Naturally, I don't feel like going to bed, brushing my teeth, sometimes taking a shower, eating veggies. I just wanna play.It feels forced. I just want my mommy and daddy to feed me good tasty food and let me play all the time, I don't worry about money and laundry, not even in mind responsibilities.I want my needs met, when I want it, I would cry for it and annoy my parents if they don't give me what I want.

But when you mature, maybe you went through having cavities before valuing brushing your teeth, maybe because of your schedule you value the bed more, you saw how proper hygiene is needed and desired and how much you hate how others don't take care of themselves.All the things that were once laundry list, now being brought up to remembrance and valued. You can relate to it, and appreciate your parents more for teaching you it. Maybe you end up asking more questions, hanging with them more to understand how they overcame, etc.

Saying all this to tell you that no you're are not a puppet, you are your Father's child.Your heavenly Father is guiding you how to live this life fruitfully. So just like how a child here builds a relationship with their parent, same here:

1. You have to trust Him and believe in the promises He establishes. You have to believe that your Father loves you because He does.
2. Get to know the heart of God through the Word. Yes its a lot, but understand why its establish and look through His instruction through that lens.
3. Apply what you've learned, observe, grow and aim to get mature. You will find the value of your faith through experience and action. Some are warranted, some may not. Some may cost you, some may not cost you much.
What Bible is God's word? I don't know which one to get, I was told the KJV is blasphemous, but also from my grandfather that God wants us to explore churches to find the right one. I was raised Catholic but I do believe in Jesus. God and Jesus are King. Devils may be the older higher. Horror iis supposedly of of the devil and to be shunned, but I loved every minute of it, just not when it involved bad things happening to innocent little children. When they came out unharmed I liked it, but some of it did scare me. I guess Devils should train and allow kids to grow. They can do much.
 
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I've heard and read so much about "having a relationship with Jesus and God", but I just don't get it.

To me the Bible is a gigantic rule book telling you that if you don't follow every single detail of it, God will make you suffer for eternity.

How am I supposed to feel any love for that??

How am I supposed to just be like "Ok. My life means nothing. I'm just a puppet of God following all of His rules. I'm just a robot. I'm ok with all of this."

They say, "Call upon the name of the Lord while He may be found".
I try my best. I call out to both Jesus and God. Nothing. No feelings, no peace, no joy. Nothing.
I scream to both of them. I ask for understanding. I ask for wisdom.

Nothing.

How am I supposed to have a relationship with them if they won't even talk to me?

What am I doing wrong!?!
Am I asking for help in the wrong way???


1 John 2:6
"Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did".

That scripture infuriates me because its telling me to give up everything I love to do and just be as Jesus was. I want to follow this rule, but it makes me angry because I love to do so many things that I can't see Jesus doing.

I'm a college student studying computer science. I have an obsessive nature. I love to obsess over things that I enjoy and block out the rest of the world.

I don't see Jesus as the type who would be a computer scientist or obsess over studies.
So, I guess I should just abandon my love for computers and change to something else or drop out of college all together because Jesus would not obsess over anything, but I obsess over all of my studies.

I guess being a christian means that I have to walk along the sides of the street every day calling out for people to repent and turn to God, because that's exactly what I think Jesus would be doing right now.

I've also been reading about how people don't think playing video games is a christian thing to do, even is there is not violence in them.
I've been playing video games ever since I can remember.
I've successfully stopped playing violent games, but that's not good enough??

Also, Idols.
As I said before, I obsess over anything and everything I love to do.

For example, I love to paint Bob Ross paintings.
The other day I watched Bob Ross videos for the entire day without having the desire to pick my Bible once.
So, I guess that's an idol and I need to cut it out of my life.

I guess I need to cut everything I love out of my life that I love to obsess over completely and
just twiddle my thumbs and sleep when I have nothing to do.

How am I supposed to do all of this!?!

All I know is that I've been hearing "You're going to Hell if you're not a Christian" ever since I can remember.

If there was a switch that I could turn on that would make me ok with all of this, I would flip it immediately.
But of course there is not!
How am I supposed to change my view of everything I have ever known!?!

First of all at your age everything is a struggle. It was for me. Secondly, if you think like that you are being a robot for the devil actually. I was just saying it as it is.
 
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First of all at your age everything is a struggle. It was for me. Secondly, if you think like that you are being a robot for the devil actually. I was just saying it as it is.
Well, he doesn't have to, he's fine as is. Going to a Baptist church to find God wouldn't be bad.
 
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I've heard and read so much about "having a relationship with Jesus and God", but I just don't get it.

To me the Bible is a gigantic rule book telling you that if you don't follow every single detail of it, God will make you suffer for eternity.

How am I supposed to feel any love for that??

How am I supposed to just be like "Ok. My life means nothing. I'm just a puppet of God following all of His rules. I'm just a robot. I'm ok with all of this."

They say, "Call upon the name of the Lord while He may be found".
I try my best. I call out to both Jesus and God. Nothing. No feelings, no peace, no joy. Nothing.
I scream to both of them. I ask for understanding. I ask for wisdom.

Nothing.

How am I supposed to have a relationship with them if they won't even talk to me?

What am I doing wrong!?!
Am I asking for help in the wrong way???


1 John 2:6
"Those who say they live in God should live their lives as Jesus did".

That scripture infuriates me because its telling me to give up everything I love to do and just be as Jesus was. I want to follow this rule, but it makes me angry because I love to do so many things that I can't see Jesus doing.

I'm a college student studying computer science. I have an obsessive nature. I love to obsess over things that I enjoy and block out the rest of the world.

I don't see Jesus as the type who would be a computer scientist or obsess over studies.
So, I guess I should just abandon my love for computers and change to something else or drop out of college all together because Jesus would not obsess over anything, but I obsess over all of my studies.

I guess being a christian means that I have to walk along the sides of the street every day calling out for people to repent and turn to God, because that's exactly what I think Jesus would be doing right now.

I've also been reading about how people don't think playing video games is a christian thing to do, even is there is not violence in them.
I've been playing video games ever since I can remember.
I've successfully stopped playing violent games, but that's not good enough??

Also, Idols.
As I said before, I obsess over anything and everything I love to do.

For example, I love to paint Bob Ross paintings.
The other day I watched Bob Ross videos for the entire day without having the desire to pick my Bible once.
So, I guess that's an idol and I need to cut it out of my life.

I guess I need to cut everything I love out of my life that I love to obsess over completely and
just twiddle my thumbs and sleep when I have nothing to do.

How am I supposed to do all of this!?!

All I know is that I've been hearing "You're going to Hell if you're not a Christian" ever since I can remember.

If there was a switch that I could turn on that would make me ok with all of this, I would flip it immediately.
But of course there is not!
How am I supposed to change my view of everything I have ever known!?!

Agreed with Mskriskris and longwait. Your understanding is backwards and presently immature, which I don't say to insult you. But it was for this reason that Paul reminded the saints:

"And have you forgotten the exhortation that addresses you as sons? 'My son, do not regard lightly the discipline of the Lord, nor be weary when reproved by him. For the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
and chastises every son whom he receives.' It is for discipline that you have to endure. God is treating you as sons. For what son is there whom his father does not discipline? If you are left without discipline, in which all have participated, then you are illegitimate children and not sons. Besides this, we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us and we respected them. Shall we not much more be subject to the Father of spirits and live? For they disciplined us for a short time as it seemed best to them, but he disciplines us for our good, that we may share his holiness. For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it. Therefore lift your drooping hands and strengthen your weak knees, and make straight paths for your feet, so that what is lame may not be put out of joint but rather be healed." (Hebrews 12:5-13)

Don't listen to anyone who says God will never "harass" you or test you or cause you to enter many struggles. The Scripture is clear about the contrary. However, it is for your own good, and though not pleasant at the time, will produce a peace that comes from righteousness and a good conscience in obedience to God, like a child who grows from a boy to a man and gains understanding. Love and intimacy with the Father will often follow respect, because "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight." (Proverbs 9:10) Hence we are admonished: "Be not like a horse or a mule, without understanding, which must be curbed with bit and bridle, or it will not stay near you." (Psalms 32:9) And: "Be not wise in your own eyes; fear the LORD, and turn away from evil." (Proverbs 3:7)
 
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Well, he doesn't have to, he's fine as is. Going to a Baptist church to find God wouldn't be bad.

Don't try so hard to discourage his every conviction. It's not helpful. We all have to examine our lives and most of all our hearts in times like this. I went through it for years myself.

And to answer your question from earlier, the KJV is not blasphemous. The best translations to my knowledge in terms of verbatim accuracy (word-for-word rather than though-for-thought) are the KJV, ESV and NASB.
 
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