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First off, hello everyone! I am new to this site, and I am hoping to progress on my journey to being closer to the truth with a little help from all of you ......

Here is where I stand, or how I feel. I have been a christian my entire life....by christian, I mean that my family taught me to believe in God and that Jesus was my savior....but not until about a year and a half ago did I really start to ask questions....oddly enough it was because of an atheist who challenged me on some things....but I think it has been positive...anyway, sorry for being long winded, I will try to get the point.

I feel that I am in the awkward position of believing very strongly in God, and in His son Jesus, but not necessarily the book that tells their story. As I said above, the co-worker that started my quest for answers seemed to have many valid points about the bible and the stories that it tells. Things like the earth being less than 10,000 years old, or all of the miraculous occurences in the bible that don't seem to happen today, or the great flood and how everything fit on the ark, how Adam and Eve populated the entire world,etc.... And so the more that I look into the bible and some of the things in it...the more I feel that it must have been 'tainted' by the hands of humans....yet, I continue to believe in God. And I continue to get answers like "that is not literal, that is figurative", or you have to take it in context, hermeunetics(sp?) need to be applied here...But my question is this...and certainly there will be more to come later in the post....if every time something in the Bible doesn't make sense we simply say that it is figurative, then who are we to say that all of it is not figurative...that Jesus casting out demons was simply Jesus helping people who were sick with a cold get better, or that he really didn't walk on water, that he just "rose above the challenge" or something? I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself.....and that is just not working for me.... Can anyone help me here? I hope I haven't insulted anyones views or beliefs, I am just trying to get some answers...thanks....

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What we know about the world and universe today, is so very much more ahead of those ancients back then. We can see that the reason things such as the creation story in Genesis is written like it is. It was the only way that they could understand how things came to be. So I do not believe how it could be wrong to maintain that a lot of things written in it are to be undersood by us today as figurative.
 
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I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself....

Jayray

Hi Jayray! To start with, I would tend to agree more with your atheist co-worker that most of the theologians on CF! Where in the bible does it state that it is the Word of God?:scratch:
 
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I feel that I am in the awkward position of believing very strongly in God, and in His son Jesus, but not necessarily the book that tells their story. As I said above, the co-worker that started my quest for answers seemed to have many valid points about the bible and the stories that it tells. Things like the earth being less than 10,000 years old,
Hi and welcome. If one is in the Christ of YHWH, he is a new Creation so whether the planet is 5000 yrs old or 5 trillion yrs old matters little to me.
I recommend this site first off to show how Hebrew translations into english is not only difficult but can lead to the kind of division that one can see in Judaism, Islam and Chritianity for example.

Daniel 12:1 And in that time, Miyka'el shall stand, the chief, the great, the one standing over sons of Thy People.
And time of distress/06869 tsarah becomes, which not has-become from to become a Nation, until the Time, the-that. And in-Time, the that, Thy People shall Escape, all of the one being found being written in Scroll.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/localflood.html

...........This paper has shown that the Bible declares the Genesis flood to be local in extent, though universal in its judgment of humans (with the exception of Noah and his family). The evidence presented here is purely biblical, although a strong case could also be given for extra-biblical reasons. ...........
..............When you read an English translation of the biblical account of the flood, you will undoubtedly notice many words and verses that seem to suggest that the waters covered all of planet earth.3 However, one should note that today we look at everything from a global perspective, whereas the Bible nearly always refers to local geography.

You may not be able to determine this fact from our English translations, so we will look at the original Hebrew, which is the word of God.
The Hebrew words which are translated as "whole earth" or "all the earth" are kol (Strong's number H3605), which means "all," and erets (Strong's number H776), which means "earth," "land," "country," or "ground."4 We don't need to look very far in Genesis (Genesis 2) before we find the Hebrew words ........
 
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You can build a sure and steadfast faith just on the prophecies that foretold of Jesus all throughout the Old Testament. These prophecies were spoken hundreds of years before Jesus and have been 100% accurate. No atheist or scientist can refute them.

Take some time and study out the metal image in Daniel. The one that Nebuchadnezzar had the dream of. God truly goes out on a limb to prophecy, in detail, all the kingdoms of the world right down to our very day. Powerful, life changing and faith building prophecies given to us by God to help us believe.

Then we have Jesus Himself. His words alone turned the world upside down right to the very day. All He did was love people, heal people and spoke words of life changing truth. He was crucified just like the Scriptures said hundreds of years before. He said people will hate him and will hate anyone who bear his name. Today, His name is the only name banned from schools and many other locations. No other name brings such persecution, just like Jesus said.

There are many solid, irrefutable and powerful truths and evidences found in and outside of the Bible that testifies of God, His Son and the working power of His Spirit in the world and lives of His people.

There are many things in this world, whether it be spiritual or scientific that we can't totally understand or explain but they are real and are as true as the day is long.

A simple little force in the world called, love, has moved more mountains than all the bulldozers in the world, yet who can understand love?

Without this little thing called, love God says we are nothing. He says we can have all knowledge but if we don't have love we have nothing. Yet who can prove love exists outside of the manifestations of it in the lives of people.

God is love...

Who can really understand all that God has done working through love?

Who can grasp every detail of the workings of God?

As a matter of fact, who can even grasp every detail of the workings of man?

There are things in the world that man has done that we, to this day, can't even explain or understand.

But by faith we know...by faith God confirms.

Hebrews 11:3 By faith, we understand that the universe was put together by God's word. What we see was made from what we cannot see.
 
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Wow, That was your first post! Forgive me for being so carnal!
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First off, hello everyone! I am new to this site, and I am hoping to progress on my journey to being closer to the truth with a little help from all of you ......

Here is where I stand, or how I feel. I have been a christian my entire life....by christian, I mean that my family taught me to believe in God and that Jesus was my savior....but not until about a year and a half ago did I really start to ask questions....oddly enough it was because of an atheist who challenged me on some things....but I think it has been positive...anyway, sorry for being long winded, I will try to get the point.

I feel that I am in the awkward position of believing very strongly in God, and in His son Jesus, but not necessarily the book that tells their story. As I said above, the co-worker that started my quest for answers seemed to have many valid points about the bible and the stories that it tells. Things like the earth being less than 10,000 years old, or all of the miraculous occurences in the bible that don't seem to happen today, or the great flood and how everything fit on the ark, how Adam and Eve populated the entire world,etc.... And so the more that I look into the bible and some of the things in it...the more I feel that it must have been 'tainted' by the hands of humans....yet, I continue to believe in God. And I continue to get answers like "that is not literal, that is figurative", or you have to take it in context, hermeunetics(sp?) need to be applied here...But my question is this...and certainly there will be more to come later in the post....if every time something in the Bible doesn't make sense we simply say that it is figurative, then who are we to say that all of it is not figurative...that Jesus casting out demons was simply Jesus helping people who were sick with a cold get better, or that he really didn't walk on water, that he just "rose above the challenge" or something? I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself.....and that is just not working for me.... Can anyone help me here? I hope I haven't insulted anyones views or beliefs, I am just trying to get some answers...thanks....

Jayray
This is a very good question, one that I have doubts about myself. Some may indeed say it is a bit convenient that all the "negatives" in the Bible suddenly become non-literal interpretations, but the miracles of Jesus and the like are never really questioned.

It is a confusing situation. The best I can explain it is that God has gifted us and asks of us to use reason and logic. The Bible was not written as a scientific document, it was written to help people (of ancient times) develop a better understanding of God. God's message is present in the Bible - but it is still written by man, and as such subject to misinterpretation and misunderstanding. Events that mean one thing to us know might have meant very different things back then. We have to search for God's meaning and decide what is just as we read it, and what might be subject to different interpretations.

But I don't know. As I said, I'm struggling with the issue myself.
 
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First off, hello everyone! I am new to this site, and I am hoping to progress on my journey to being closer to the truth with a little help from all of you ......

Here is where I stand, or how I feel. I have been a christian my entire life....by christian, I mean that my family taught me to believe in God and that Jesus was my savior....but not until about a year and a half ago did I really start to ask questions....oddly enough it was because of an atheist who challenged me on some things....but I think it has been positive...anyway, sorry for being long winded, I will try to get the point.

I feel that I am in the awkward position of believing very strongly in God, and in His son Jesus, but not necessarily the book that tells their story. As I said above, the co-worker that started my quest for answers seemed to have many valid points about the bible and the stories that it tells. Things like the earth being less than 10,000 years old, or all of the miraculous occurences in the bible that don't seem to happen today, or the great flood and how everything fit on the ark, how Adam and Eve populated the entire world,etc.... And so the more that I look into the bible and some of the things in it...the more I feel that it must have been 'tainted' by the hands of humans....yet, I continue to believe in God. And I continue to get answers like "that is not literal, that is figurative", or you have to take it in context, hermeunetics(sp?) need to be applied here...But my question is this...and certainly there will be more to come later in the post....if every time something in the Bible doesn't make sense we simply say that it is figurative, then who are we to say that all of it is not figurative...that Jesus casting out demons was simply Jesus helping people who were sick with a cold get better, or that he really didn't walk on water, that he just "rose above the challenge" or something? I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself.....and that is just not working for me.... Can anyone help me here? I hope I haven't insulted anyones views or beliefs, I am just trying to get some answers...thanks....

Jayray

Hi Jayray,

Coming to Jesus is about Jesus and not about what's in the bible except as the truth you heard as pertains to Jesus. As prior to coming to Christ, while one can read the bible intellectual, one can not glean a lot from it, as is spiritually discerned.

Faith is important as without faith, we don't come to Christ. And as you read the bible and learn of God, all depends on how you see God will be how you understand Him to be. I know God is good, I know this from the bible, from Him in my life (not that all that occurs to me is good, that has nothing to do with it at all), I know He is good, and I know He is many things, but without knowing things of God, it is harder to have faith in other areas of things.

Once in Christ, with all that occurs once we are in Christ, we start to read the bible and hearing truths in it.

The only place to learn of Jesus is in the bible and is important that it be the focus of one's beginning in reading the bible as to be grounded in who Jesus is.. To know Him more.

So I hear you saying that miracles seem far fetched as we don't see them today, or that some things in the bible seem far fetched as well.

It does not seem that way at all to me, but each one is different, but the point I'm making is, is that your relationship as to coming to Christ, being born again, a new creation in Christ, and all else which occurs, is the starting point and of eternal importance.

Whether you believe adam and eve were the first people and all came thru them, or the flood etc, is not necessary to salvation. I believe those things literally but others may not, and again, does not matter.

As to miracles I've no doubt of them either, but I dont' have to believe in miracles to come to Christ.

If as you are reading the bible you are with the thinking that this isn't true, but this is, you will have a hard time in the nt where we are giving truths that help us in our walk. We are also given commands of what to do or not do.

So, if you discount certain things, you may doubt about Jesus as well.

Truths are throughout the bible, ot and nt.

I guess be good to ask yourself.. Do I believe Jesus, that He is the truth, that He died and was resurrected for the forgiveness of sins and much more.

If you doubt miracles, would that cloud to you who Jesus is.. as Jesus performed many miracles as did the apostles and disciples.

These are important things to consider.

As to Jesus casting out demons, not every one who was healed did Jesus say had a demon. So is evident that all illness is not of demonic nature at least we can infer such, and some were ill and Jesus healed, and some had demon which had caused a illness, or as well some were possessed by demons.

During NT times, they had only the OT and much of what is quoted in the NT is quoted from the OT. It is what they had. They did not have the NT as they were living it.

I've no doubt the bible is God's word to us.

Again, good to ponder all that you are doing.

And how you feel on matters will make a difference in things as pertains to faith in Jesus.

If Jesus didn't do x, then did he die for sins and was ressurected?

You can see how things can trickle down.

Take care,
tapero
 
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What we know about the world and universe today, is so very much more ahead of those ancients back then. We can see that the reason things such as the creation story in Genesis is written like it is. It was the only way that they could understand how things came to be. So I do not believe how it could be wrong to maintain that a lot of things written in it are to be undersood by us today as figurative.
That is one of the things that I really struggle with...exactly what you have said....if we are to say that it is written the way that it is because that is all that they understood, then doesn't that reinforce that it could have been written by men, and not God? If God had truly inspired the bible, then would Henot have put it into a context that was applicable to all societies, current and future?

What do we have ( a question, not a challenge) that tells us that the Bible is the word of God other than the Bible? How do we know? Other than people saying that it was God inspired and passing that belief down generation to generation? Would God not simply speak to each of us in a context that we understand?

Do you see my struggle here? I am not trying to discredit anyone's beliefs. I would love nothing more than to find the answers to my questions and come to the honest opinion of "the bible is absolutely true", but I would feel as if I were lying to myself if I said that today.

Has anyone else had this struggle or am I alone here?
 
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Hi Jayray! To start with, I would tend to agree more with your atheist co-worker that most of the theologians on CF! Where in the bible does it state that it is the Word of God?:scratch:
It does say in Tim 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," but there are also verses that state that not all of the scripture is God-breathed:

1 Corinthians 7:12
For to the rest I speak, not the Lord. If any brother hath a wife that believeth not and she consent to dwell with him: let him not put her away.

1 Corinthians 7:6
But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

2 Corinthians 11:17
That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.

Now, I am not saying that it was all the word of man, simply that it is possible that is was corrupted. Does this make sense?
 
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First off, hello everyone! I am new to this site, and I am hoping to progress on my journey to being closer to the truth with a little help from all of you ......

Hey.


Here is where I stand, or how I feel. I have been a christian my entire life....by christian, I mean that my family taught me to believe in God and that Jesus was my savior....but not until about a year and a half ago did I really start to ask questions....oddly enough it was because of an atheist who challenged me on some things....but I think it has been positive...anyway, sorry for being long winded, I will try to get the point.

It's always good to be challenged.


I feel that I am in the awkward position of believing very strongly in God, and in His son Jesus, but not necessarily the book that tells their story.

It's not as awkward as it may seem.

As I said above, the co-worker that started my quest for answers seemed to have many valid points about the bible and the stories that it tells. Things like the earth being less than 10,000 years old,

There are many "old earth creationists"...I happen to be one of them. I don't think the Bible specifies the actual amount of time for creation. There are several reasons for thinking this that I won't go into here, but just so you are aware that it's out there. You should look into it for one perspective.

or all of the miraculous occurences in the bible that don't seem to happen today,

It's possible that:
(1) they do happen, we just don't hear about them. Maybe they are infrequent. Maybe they are happening in places that we wouldn't normally consider.
(2) They did happen in bible times but have stopped for some reason.

or the great flood and how everything fit on the ark,

There's lots of interesting stuff out there on this. There are several possible interpretations.

And I continue to get answers like "that is not literal, that is figurative", or you have to take it in context, hermeunetics(sp?) need to be applied here...

This is very important to take into consideration. If you're going to try to take the entire bible literally word-for-word without considering hermeneutics* or context, then God has a pair of wings and the earth is a literal footstool.

But my question is this...and certainly there will be more to come later in the post....if every time something in the Bible doesn't make sense we simply say that it is figurative, then who are we to say that all of it is not figurative...that Jesus casting out demons was simply Jesus helping people who were sick with a cold get better, or that he really didn't walk on water, that he just "rose above the challenge" or something?

Again, context. The Bible was written: by more than one author (Matt, Mark, Luke, John, Paul, Peter, Jude, James, Moses, Isaiah, Jeremiah, ...etc), to several audiences (Hebrews, Jews, Greeks, Christian churches, etc..), for different situations and reasons (the exodus, Israel in captavity, the gospels, the epistles...), in different languages (Greek and Hebrew), and over a very long span of time. So when reading a book from the Bible, just keep things like that in mind. Don't read just one verse at a time.

I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself.....and that is just not working for me....

As with any system of thought, consider whether or not it coheres and is consistent. Consider it's reliability. It, so far, has been very historically reliable for example. I can point out and have been to Jerusalem, Calvary, Capernaeum, Nazereth, the Dead Sea, Thessilonica, Athens, the Sea of Galilee, etc..


and things like that. Maybe that helps some.

Here are some good places to look:
www.str.org
www.veritas.org
www.reasons.org
www.reasonablefaith.org
http://www.tektonics.org/
 
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Hi Jayray :wave:

I am sorry you are struggling so . . . :hug: Can I make a suggestion? Firstly, please pick up the Holy Scriptures and read them (the Gospel of John is a great place to begin). Next, pray for guidance . . . :crosseo: Pray simply like this . . .

Our Father, who art in heaven,Hallowed be thy Name.Thy kingdom come.Thy will be done,On earth as it is in heaven.Give us this day our daily bread.And forgive us our trespasses,As we forgive those who trespass against us.And lead us not into temptation,But deliver us from evil.


and this . . . Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, the sinner.

Luke 18:
9 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.”


35 Then it happened, as He was coming near Jericho, that a certain blind man sat by the road begging. 36 And hearing a multitude passing by, he asked what it meant. 37 So they told him that Jesus of Nazareth was passing by. 38 And he cried out, saying, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”
39 Then those who went before warned him that he should be quiet; but he cried out all the more, “Son of David, have mercy on me!”
40 So Jesus stood still and commanded him to be brought to Him. And when he had come near, He asked him, 41 saying, “What do you want Me to do for you?”
He said, “Lord, that I may receive my sight.”
42 Then Jesus said to him, “Receive your sight; your faith has made you well.” 43 And immediately he received his sight, and followed Him, glorifying God. And all the people, when they saw
it, gave praise to God.

Seek Him and you will find the truth. I will pray for you, for what they are worth.

Love,
Christina
 
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It does say in Tim 3:16 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness," but there are also verses that state that not all of the scripture is God-breathed:

1 Corinthians 7:12
For to the rest I speak, not the Lord. If any brother hath a wife that believeth not and she consent to dwell with him: let him not put her away.

1 Corinthians 7:6
But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.

2 Corinthians 11:17
That which I speak, I speak it not after the Lord, but as it were foolishly, in this confidence of boasting.

Now, I am not saying that it was all the word of man, simply that it is possible that is was corrupted. Does this make sense?

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The letter to Timothy (a Jew) was written about 60 ad (just guessing) the Bible wasn't compiled for another 300 years. Was Paul's letter prophetic or was "scripture" referring to the Jewish Scripture.....The TORAH?? The Bible isn't inerrant! God,s Word (Jesus) is without error. The Bible is not our God, but I guess, some believe it is.
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Hi Jay, Christina and Tapero gave some very good answers. Please take them into consideration.
That is one of the things that I really struggle with...exactly what you have said....if we are to say that it is written the way that it is because that is all that they understood, then doesn't that reinforce that it could have been written by men, and not God? If God had truly inspired the bible, then would Henot have put it into a context that was applicable to all societies, current and future?

What do we have ( a question, not a challenge) that tells us that the Bible is the word of God other than the Bible? How do we know? Other than people saying that it was God inspired and passing that belief down generation to generation? Would God not simply speak to each of us in a context that we understand?

Do you see my struggle here? I am not trying to discredit anyone's beliefs. I would love nothing more than to find the answers to my questions and come to the honest opinion of "the bible is absolutely true", but I would feel as if I were lying to myself if I said that today.

Has anyone else had this struggle or am I alone here?
Your points here are very valid. It is good to question things. I don't think you should just believe the Bible is true because other people tell you that it is.
You need to believe it because God tells you that it is.

God does simply speak to us in a context that we can understand!
He will answer your questions.
Ask Him.
Speak to God.
Out loud.
Ask Him to be your savior in a real and experiential way and to live in you as your reality so that you can know the truth as it is in Him.
It is good to pray and read your Bible.
It is good to confess to the Lord that you do not understand Him and ask Him to help you to understand Him.
It is ok to tell your friend that you don't know all of the answers and that it is ok not to know them all right now.
Just because we don't know all of the answers does not mean that they do not exist.
:prayer: I pray that you will seek the Lord and find Him as the answer to your questions.
Pursue Him and you will find Him. :prayer:
 
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JayRay,

I wish I had some very wise and clear advice for you, but sorry to say I do not. The best I have to offer is for you to read On Christian Doctrine, by St. Augustine. He is one of the very early fathers of the Church and he specifically addresses how to read Scripture, how to interpret it and how to discern literal and figurative. Here's a link, just give it a shot:

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf102.v.i.html
 
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I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself.....and that is just not working for me.... Can anyone help me here?

Jayray

Hi Jayray! Welcome to CF.

Concerning the Bible, I hope the following is helpful to you.

Why the Bible?
This is a common question. To those who ask it, I would ask you if you have read it? The whole Bible?

When reading the Bible you will find that it is the most amazing book on the planet. The unity of it is nothing short of a miracle. Throughout all 66 books, the same thoughts, themes and story is expressed.

Consider the astounding conditions under which the Bible was written...

Forty different authors writing over a period of 1,600 years penned the 66 books of the Bible. Four hundred silent years separated the 39 books of the Old Testament from the 27 of the New Testament. Yet, from Genesis to Revelation, they tell one unfolding story.

The Old Testament starts with the beginning of the Universe, and ends in Malachi with the promise of a coming Messiah. The New Testament starts with the birth of the Messiah in Matthew, and ends in Revelation with the destruction of the Universe and the promise of heaven. Every book in the Bible connects to the other books perfectly to tell the story of man’s sin and God’s plan of salvation.

When we look at this book, it shows an amazing unity—as if a single, guiding hand was behind it.

Those forty men wrote the Bible from many different time periods, from 3 separate continents, yet they all wrote one unified message, the good news about Jesus the Christ. In that day, they had no mail delivery trucks, no drop ship planes, no Federal Express, no UPS and no e-mail. So how could it be that over such a great span of time, with the authors writing from 3 different continents that they all managed to write one coherent, unified message? Because as the men wrote, God spoke.

The unity of the Bible is an awesome piece of evidence that shows that the Bible is exactly what it says it is, the word of God, but it is only the tip of the iceberg. The Bible's blatant honesty, its historical and geographical accuracy, its prophetic accuracy, its awesome power to change lives and the amazing fact that it is still around are all further evidences that the Bible is the very words of God.


Following are some topics and links to study, concerning the validity of the Bible. If you are doubting the Bible, please lay your doubt aside and proceed with an open mind, and heart, and see what the evidence has to say.




Proof of Textual Evidence
Old Testament:
The Dead Sea Scrolls and Biblical Integrity

New Testament:
New Testament Reliability

More on the Bible:
The Bible
Questions About The Bible


Proof of People Living at the Time of Christ
Extra Biblical Accounts
Josephus
Ancient Evidence for Jesus




Proof of Science
Statements Consistent With
...Paleontology
...Astronomy
...Meteorology
...Biology
...Anthropology
...Hydrology
...Geology
Science & the Bible
Scientific Accuracies of the Bible
101 Scientific Facts & Foreknowledge




If the Bible is true, Christianity is true. In Christianity, faith is required but it does not have to be a blind faith.
 
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I am really struggling with this...the only thing that I know of (please correct me if I am wrong) that tells me that the Bible is the word of God is the Bible itself.....and that is just not working for me.... Can anyone help me here? I hope I haven't insulted anyones views or beliefs, I am just trying to get some answers...thanks....

Jayray
First off you need to pick a denomination. Then find a church in that denomination. I recommend reading the Bible thru about 30 times first before doing either one.

Here are the major Christ-ian denominations and their views/beliefs on the Scriptures. If it becomes difficult, you could always join Islam, Judaism or another religion . Peace.

http://www.creeds.net/

http://www.scripture4all.org/
John 5:39 Ye are searching the Scriptures that ye are seeming in them life, age-during to be having, and those are the ones-witnessing about Me.

Acts 17:11 These yet were more-well-generated of the in Thessalonica, who-any receive the Word with all readiness, according to day, examing the Scriptures if it may be having these, thus
 
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