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[Momo97]

Acts 2:38- Matt 28:19 comparison

This was my OP that I originally asked the question what they thought of this video. I thought you were commenting on it. I thought this video was fascinating. It really had nothing to do with works.

Thanks. I have an aversion to didactic media. I avoid them. I very rarely make exceptions. I prefer to talk to the teachers in person. The Holy Spirit and the Bible are enough for me.

 

[Momo97]

Do you see by your own standard, that sin is the lack of grace and salvation ?

It is sin if we do not hate sin and tolerate it.
It is also sin to disbelieve someone because they walk in the flesh and sin. I hate that.

 

[Momo97]

Don't you see that loving sin, or even just committing sin, is also turning away from Jesus ?

I like what you say. I would like to add an additional comment:

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:17

We have these 2 natures within us. The flesh loves sin and the Holy Spirit hates it. Sometimes I sin and love it, until I realize I have sinned and I hate it. Sometimes I sin knowing that I am sinning and hating it at the same time. I'm still a baby Christian.

 

[Momo97]

I like what you say. I would like to add an additional comment:

For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
Gal 5:17

We have these 2 natures within us. The flesh loves sin and the Holy Spirit hates it. Sometimes I sin and love it, until I realize I have sinned and I hate it. Sometimes I sin knowing that I am sinning and hating it at the same time. I'm still a baby Christian.

maybe I'm already a child. I don't know how to know how old I am.

 

[Momo97]

Momo ninety and seven . how are you my dear friend .
Every word from page one to page last in said bible is meat for our soul .
IT sure would have been wise to have loved and embraced it .
The love that cometh of GOD would rejoice IN THE TRUTH and not in inquity , in lies .
Today the version of love i seem to see many embracing
well lets just say it has embraced sins and a lie and if one brings a bible , IT SURE DONT SEEM to embrace that CORRECTION
or them words . the love of the world has crept into many a house and many a church .
Under the guise that it was the love of GOD . OH it spoke certain truths and twisted things
Now who do we suppose would do that .
Who would say HAS GOD really said , and use Scripture out of text to promote a lie . THERE be one i know that does that .
Hims was at the tree and tempted eve . Lets see how he did it .
HAS GOD really said .
now eve answered right and said we can eat of all the trees in the garden , CEPT the one in the midst ,
for in the day we eat thereof we die .
NOW watch this real closely my dear friend.
NAY , NAY saith the sepent , YE SHALL NOT DIE , LIE
Ye shall become as gods to know good and evil , a truth . cause even GOD said they have become as one of us to know good and evil.
But take note how he used that truth in order to cause them to believe A FAT LIE that they would not DIE .
So lets forward in time to a day WHEN THE CHRIST JESUS walked the earth and satan tempted him , ONLY HE FAILED NOT .
Cast thyself off this cliff , said the devil , for it is WRITTEN HE shall give his angels charge over thee
and thou shall not even dash thy foot against the stone . Take note he is using the scrips to try and cause JESUS to do something .
BUT JESUS KNEW . IT is written THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT to the LORD THY GOD .
satan is slick friend . and so are his men .
Today anytime one tries to correct sin and error within the church
and even remind that other religoins do not know GOD .
Guess what the devil says . THEY shall not surely perish , FOR GOD IS LOVE . HE USES that phrase GOD IS LOVE
to cause one to beleive A LIE . he is slick friend .

 

[Momo97]

Momo ninety and seven . how are you my dear friend .
Every word from page one to page last in said bible is meat for our soul .
IT sure would have been wise to have loved and embraced it .
The love that cometh of GOD would rejoice IN THE TRUTH and not in inquity , in lies .
Today the version of love i seem to see many embracing
well lets just say it has embraced sins and a lie and if one brings a bible , IT SURE DONT SEEM to embrace that CORRECTION
or them words . the love of the world has crept into many a house and many a church .
Under the guise that it was the love of GOD . OH it spoke certain truths and twisted things
Now who do we suppose would do that .
Who would say HAS GOD really said , and use Scripture out of text to promote a lie . THERE be one i know that does that .
Hims was at the tree and tempted eve . Lets see how he did it .
HAS GOD really said .
now eve answered right and said we can eat of all the trees in the garden , CEPT the one in the midst ,
for in the day we eat thereof we die .
NOW watch this real closely my dear friend.
NAY , NAY saith the sepent , YE SHALL NOT DIE , LIE
Ye shall become as gods to know good and evil , a truth . cause even GOD said they have become as one of us to know good and evil.
But take note how he used that truth in order to cause them to believe A FAT LIE that they would not DIE .
So lets forward in time to a day WHEN THE CHRIST JESUS walked the earth and satan tempted him , ONLY HE FAILED NOT .
Cast thyself off this cliff , said the devil , for it is WRITTEN HE shall give his angels charge over thee
and thou shall not even dash thy foot against the stone . Take note he is using the scrips to try and cause JESUS to do something .
BUT JESUS KNEW . IT is written THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT to the LORD THY GOD .
satan is slick friend . and so are his men .
Today anytime one tries to correct sin and error within the church
and even remind that other religoins do not know GOD .
Guess what the devil says . THEY shall not surely perish , FOR GOD IS LOVE . HE USES that phrase GOD IS LOVE
to cause one to beleive A LIE . he is slick friend .

Yes I understand

 

[Momo97]

PS:

24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
John 7:24

7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
1.Sam 16:7

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PS:

24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
John 7:24

7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
1.Sam 16:7

PS2: I'm sorry The “PS text” should go to Hoping 2. I can't figure out the controls here.

 

[SandD]

Thanks. I have an aversion to didactic media. I avoid them. I very rarely make exceptions. I prefer to talk to the teachers in person. The Holy Spirit and the Bible are enough for me.

It was my video. I made it to create a conversation starter

 

[Momo97]

It was my video. I made it to create a conversation starter

You can talk to me. but please respond to the Bible passages I used to answer you and explain to me why they do not convince you.

 

[Momo97]

It was my video. I made it to create a conversation starter

PS: Nevertheless. Baptism is a WORK that follows faith. Baptism is not faith.

 

[Momo97]

Paul tells us that no one will escape the judgement that there is not one just person. We will be judged for our sins.Ill have my day just like everyone else whether we accept him or not.

I don't know if I can help you. I recommend you read Hebrews 10 carefully.
We cannot save ourselves. You also can't earn grace through actions, otherwise it wouldn't be grace. If you believe in Jesus and are eternal punished, then God would have lied. The more we absorb the truth, the closer we get to it. To understand the correct interpretation of the Judgment Seat of Christ, you must also absorb the other Bible passages.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my father's hand.
30 I and my father are one.
John 10:27-30

For believers, the judgment seat is NOT about the question of eternal salvation or eternal punishment, but about THE REWARD we receive:

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation no man can lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of whatever sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet as if by fire.

 

[Momo97]

I don't know if I can help you. I recommend you read Hebrews 10 carefully.
We cannot save ourselves. You also can't earn grace through actions, otherwise it wouldn't be grace. If you believe in Jesus and are eternal punished, then God would have lied. The more we absorb the truth, the closer we get to it. To understand the correct interpretation of the Judgment Seat of Christ, you must also absorb the other Bible passages.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my father's hand.
30 I and my father are one.
John 10:27-30

For believers, the judgment seat is NOT about the question of eternal salvation or eternal punishment, but about THE REWARD we receive:

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation no man can lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of whatever sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet as if by fire.

PS: But as a believer you should absorb all words and be obedient! Otherwise you are disobedient. And that would be sin.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:46

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:17-18

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Mat 7:24-27

 

[Momo97]

PS: But as a believer you should absorb all words and be obedient! Otherwise you are disobedient. And that would be sin.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:46

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:17-18

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Mat 7:24-27

PS2: We should be afraid of disobeying GOD. But don't be afraid of going to hell. That's my personal opinion.

 

[Momo97]

Paul tells us that no one will escape the judgement that there is not one just person. We will be judged for our sins.Ill have my day just like everyone else whether we accept him or not.

PS3:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Epheser 2:8-9

Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
John 6:28-29

 

[frienden thalord]

PS3:

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Epheser 2:8-9

Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
John 6:28-29

What might WE DO to work the works of GOD . take note that said BELIEVE YE ON HIM , aka JESUS THE CHRIST , whom HE
has sent .
It didnt say find common ground and just love your neighbor and it wont and dont matter what religoin or etc you beleive .
SO WHY do i sees me a fake love message today
that sure do try and imply other religoins serving the same GOD we do .
cause the last time i checked OTHER religoins , INCLUDING muslims , DO NOT BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD .
Now for another question .
DO you think that james and paul contradicted each other . remember james said faith without works IS DEAD .
But so too did paul say He who provides not , A doing action , for his own and specially for those of his own household
has DENIED the faith .
now YOU ARE SPOT ON RIGHT IN WHAT YOU WROTE .
EVEN JAMES KNEW THIS .
if one beleives not on JESUS the CHRIST they DO DENY GOD and their works cannot save them .
IN fact they both knew that TRUE believers had the HOLY GHOST which actually works in them that which is pleasing to GOD
giving them the REAL ability and desire to DO what pleases GOD .
THE KEY IS , IT REALLY IS TIME TO BELEIVE JESUS THE CHRIST .
It seems many seem to claim to believe in JESUS but many dont really BELEIVE JESUS WORDS too much
which means what . THEY DONT BELIEVE JESUS THE CHRIST .
We can fool ourselves my friend , not saying you are , but we cant FOOL GOD . its why i often and often do say
ITS TIME TO READ BIBLE FOR OURSELVES .

 

[frienden thalord]

PS: But as a believer you should absorb all words and be obedient! Otherwise you are disobedient. And that would be sin.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:46

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
James 2:17-18

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Mat 7:24-27

and it can be summed up by this .
WHO we LOVE is who we obey .
WHY would a lover of GOD be a hater of his words .
Oh i know folks might err and etc , BUT any lamb would hate its sin , its own flesh ,
and it dont sit and try and justify the evil it might have done or the evil that others might do .
ITS called a DIE DAILY , FIGHT daily battle . But i seems to see me a whole lot of folks
that run off men that warn and remind about NOT sinning
and holler you judger to them or you hater to them . SOMETHING HAS WENT WRONG my friend .

 

[frienden thalord]

I don't know if I can help you. I recommend you read Hebrews 10 carefully.
We cannot save ourselves. You also can't earn grace through actions, otherwise it wouldn't be grace. If you believe in Jesus and are eternal punished, then God would have lied. The more we absorb the truth, the closer we get to it. To understand the correct interpretation of the Judgment Seat of Christ, you must also absorb the other Bible passages.

27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my father's hand.
30 I and my father are one.
John 10:27-30

For believers, the judgment seat is NOT about the question of eternal salvation or eternal punishment, but about THE REWARD we receive:

8 Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
9 For we are laborers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
11 For other foundation no man can lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of whatever sort it is.
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet as if by fire.

You wrote something very interesting . you wrote if we believe IN JESUS and are eternally punished , then GOD would have lied .
WHAT IF i told you the jesus most folks follow and beleive in , AINT THE JESUS CHRIST OF GOD
its a minstir to serve their fleshly desires and promises them salvation too . THAT Aint JESUS my dear friend .
THE Problem is many believe in another jesus , one created of men to serve the fleshly desires of men
so as they can keep the numbers . WE GOTS PROBLEMS . most are not following and believing IN JESUS THE CHRIST
but rather in another jesus . That is why they gonna burn . they loved NOT JESUS THE CHRIST
they loved a minstir of sin , one who gave them the promise of eternal life but also gave them their lustful hearts desires .
AND THAT AINT JESUS . IT AINT JESUS , its the devil using his name .

 

[frienden thalord]

JESUS said HE who loves NOT ME above mother father son daugher etc aint worthy of me .
HE DIDNT say He who loves not another jesus who serves their own felshly desires .
BIBLE TIME folks . you can all hate on the messenger all you want . But i only desired GOOD For everyone .

 

[frienden thalord]

PS: Nevertheless. Baptism is a WORK that follows faith. Baptism is not faith.

Its done in faith aka in obediance unto HE who saved us . Faith .
what is true faith . what does it entail .
LOOK at what ABRAHAM did . HE BELIEVED , and thus HE ALSO DID what GOD said .
Faith , belief , love , obediance . ITS ALL TIED into one . WHO DO WE LOVE , WHO DO WE BELEIVE , who do we OBEY .
HE who loves ME , KEEPS
HE who loves me DOES
He who beleives . but the question is do we beleive what men say about JESUS about GOD
or are we beleiving , loving , and heeding another .
DO we really have the LOVE OF GOD shed by the HOLY GHOST unto the hearts of the BELEIVER
or , or do we have the love of the world shed by the flesh unto the heart of he who desires to beleive in another iamge of said GOD and of SAID JESUS . that is the PROBLEM .
MOST do not HAVE THE SPIRIT , are not BORN again , and rather follow men who fed them their own lustful hearts desire
of another jesus that spoon fed them their own hearts desires and all the while promised them
salvation . BUT LED THEM DEEPER INTO slavation . INTO BONDAGE of sin . WE got serious problems in the house of christendom .
WE must get this people back into the bible .

 

[Momo97]

What might WE DO to work the works of GOD . take note that said BELIEVE YE ON HIM , aka JESUS THE CHRIST , whom HE
has sent .
It didnt say find common ground and just love your neighbor and it wont and dont matter what religoin or etc you beleive .
SO WHY do i sees me a fake love message today
that sure do try and imply other religoins serving the same GOD we do .
cause the last time i checked OTHER religoins , INCLUDING muslims , DO NOT BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD .
Now for another question .
DO you think that james and paul contradicted each other . remember james said faith without works IS DEAD .
But so too did paul say He who provides not , A doing action , for his own and specially for those of his own household
has DENIED the faith .
now YOU ARE SPOT ON RIGHT IN WHAT YOU WROTE .
EVEN JAMES KNEW THIS .
if one beleives not on JESUS the CHRIST they DO DENY GOD and their works cannot save them .
IN fact they both knew that TRUE believers had the HOLY GHOST which actually works in them that which is pleasing to GOD
giving them the REAL ability and desire to DO what pleases GOD .
THE KEY IS , IT REALLY IS TIME TO BELEIVE JESUS THE CHRIST .
It seems many seem to claim to believe in JESUS but many dont really BELEIVE JESUS WORDS too much
which means what . THEY DONT BELIEVE JESUS THE CHRIST .
We can fool ourselves my friend , not saying you are , but we cant FOOL GOD . its why i often and often do say
ITS TIME TO READ BIBLE FOR OURSELVES .

I think I believed and got lost. I died and came back to life. I was lost and found again. I believe I will be preserved in HIS power:

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, although now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
1 Peter 1:5-9

Maybe I should retire now. I'm not sure if this is a good thing either. Apart from that, I notice that it's not good for me.

11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?

13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.

14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.
Mat 18:11-14