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[frienden thalord]

Welcome to the forums, brother. You might like the Messianic Jewish section of the forum. Messianic Jews are basically Christians who treat the Torah as valid in the 21st century. You also might like discussing the Young-Earth Creationism in the Creation part of the forums. I am an Old-Earth Creationist, but hey, we are still brothers in Christ, as we both believe in the power of Christ and His Salvation plan.

Also, it is good to see that there are Christians in Germany, as that is where you are from. Europe needs a Christian revival, as it seems that the continent is falling away from Christianity at a breakneck pace.

Europe and america NEEDS a serious wake up call . not just europe but america and etc .
We might have far more churches and far more attendance of said churches than does europe .
But have you seen the likes of what is going on within a LOT of said churches.
in fact the fastest growers came of the seeker friendly all inclusive realm . And that was a recipe for leaven to take over the places .
They did get an explosion in numbers , but me oh my if we examine exactly what is going on within said churches
and what is NOT being taught or even allowed to be taught in said churches , we see a serious problem .
MEN pleasing tatics to win unrepentant sinners who not only were not corrected in sin
but in time came to accept the sins . That was a total destruction .

 

[frienden thalord]

Love is holy, hate is evil.

Surface value of this is true . But what if i told you the very dark one , the adversary of the brethren
can produce another image of what he calls love and what he calls hate .
And them versions CONTRADICT what GOD sees as LOVE and as hate .
The devil dont sleep sister maria . He can quoate verbatum the scrips . THUS he can say GOD is love
only WATCH out . He will use some truths to bend and to twist the image of His love unto the people .
Ye have heard it said , YE shall not hate your brother . And that he who hates his brother be in darkness .
But what else have you heard . When a man cometh to correct sins and errors within the church
you hear , hater , you dont know love or GOD .
SO now allow me a reminder that might just shake one to the core about what hate is and what love is .
YE shall not hate your neighbor in your heart , you shall in any way rebuke him and not ALLOW sin upon him .
OOOOPS . i told us satan is slick cause he has convinced the church its hateful and judgmental
to correct sins within said church . HE is slick sister .
and due to the fact most dont know the scrips and do not follow HE who inspired them words
they are falling for a big deception .
Oh its much worse than this too sister . But i just wanted you to see the first part
of how satan got sin into the church and how it GREW within the church . NONE CORRECTED and the little leaven
that could , OH IT DID and it leavened up the places .

 

[Marvelloustime]

Europe and america NEEDS a serious wake up call . not just europe but america and etc .
We might have far more churches and far more attendance of said churches than does europe .
But have you seen the likes of what is going on within a LOT of said churches.
in fact the fastest growers came of the seeker friendly all inclusive realm . And that was a recipe for leaven to take over the places .
They did get an explosion in numbers , but me oh my if we examine exactly what is going on within said churches
and what is NOT being taught or even allowed to be taught in said churches , we see a serious problem .
MEN pleasing tatics to win unrepentant sinners who not only were not corrected in sin
but in time came to accept the sins . That was a total destruction .

Spotted.
Dog ran off when I opened the back door.
Back now, but shattered.

 

[frienden thalord]

Can you maybe be a little more specific?

Momo ninety and seven . how are you my dear friend .
Every word from page one to page last in said bible is meat for our soul .
IT sure would have been wise to have loved and embraced it .
The love that cometh of GOD would rejoice IN THE TRUTH and not in inquity , in lies .
Today the version of love i seem to see many embracing
well lets just say it has embraced sins and a lie and if one brings a bible , IT SURE DONT SEEM to embrace that CORRECTION
or them words . the love of the world has crept into many a house and many a church .
Under the guise that it was the love of GOD . OH it spoke certain truths and twisted things
Now who do we suppose would do that .
Who would say HAS GOD really said , and use Scripture out of text to promote a lie . THERE be one i know that does that .
Hims was at the tree and tempted eve . Lets see how he did it .
HAS GOD really said .
now eve answered right and said we can eat of all the trees in the garden , CEPT the one in the midst ,
for in the day we eat thereof we die .
NOW watch this real closely my dear friend.
NAY , NAY saith the sepent , YE SHALL NOT DIE , LIE
Ye shall become as gods to know good and evil , a truth . cause even GOD said they have become as one of us to know good and evil.
But take note how he used that truth in order to cause them to believe A FAT LIE that they would not DIE .
So lets forward in time to a day WHEN THE CHRIST JESUS walked the earth and satan tempted him , ONLY HE FAILED NOT .
Cast thyself off this cliff , said the devil , for it is WRITTEN HE shall give his angels charge over thee
and thou shall not even dash thy foot against the stone . Take note he is using the scrips to try and cause JESUS to do something .
BUT JESUS KNEW . IT is written THOU SHALT NOT TEMPT to the LORD THY GOD .
satan is slick friend . and so are his men .
Today anytime one tries to correct sin and error within the church
and even remind that other religoins do not know GOD .
Guess what the devil says . THEY shall not surely perish , FOR GOD IS LOVE . HE USES that phrase GOD IS LOVE
to cause one to beleive A LIE . he is slick friend .

 

[frienden thalord]

Spotted.
Dog ran off when I opened the back door.
Back now, but shattered.

The world thinks it needs windfarms for energy . But man if they could market the energy off that little dog
i think a small country could live off that electic grid . Lol .
The ol izzinator has much energy indeed dear sister .

 

[frienden thalord]

IF one could manage to pull off a way to harness engery from a jack russell
THE UK could as could the world have SUSTAINABLE energy .

 

[SandD]

38 Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”

39 For the promise is to you and to your children and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God calls.
Acts 2:38-39

The Greek word translated here as “for” forgiveness of sins has the following meanings:

1. “so that” 2. “because, because of, as a result of 3. “in relation to, relating to.”

There are also incorrect interpretations due to translation errors.

Baptism does not save us:

By grace you are saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 2:8-9

Baptism is also not the reason we receive the Holy Spirit:

13 In whom also you trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom you also believed, after you had believed, with the Holy Spirit of promise,

14 This is the pledge of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 1:13-14

Baptism, of course, is the natural consequence of grace through faith.

So repentance, baptism in the name of Jesus Christ and receiving the Holy Ghost is not Grace?
Per the video, what do you think of the comparison of the two verses?

 

[Maria Billingsley]

Surface value of this is true . But what if i told you the very dark one , the adversary of the brethren
can produce another image of what he calls love and what he calls hate .
And them versions CONTRADICT what GOD sees as LOVE and as hate .
The devil dont sleep sister maria . He can quoate verbatum the scrips . THUS he can say GOD is love
only WATCH out . He will use some truths to bend and to twist the image of His love unto the people .
Ye have heard it said , YE shall not hate your brother . And that he who hates his brother be in darkness .
But what else have you heard . When a man cometh to correct sins and errors within the church
you hear , hater , you dont know love or GOD .
SO now allow me a reminder that might just shake one to the core about what hate is and what love is .
YE shall not hate your neighbor in your heart , you shall in any way rebuke him and not ALLOW sin upon him .
OOOOPS . i told us satan is slick cause he has convinced the church its hateful and judgmental
to correct sins within said church . HE is slick sister .
and due to the fact most dont know the scrips and do not follow HE who inspired them words
they are falling for a big deception .
Oh its much worse than this too sister . But i just wanted you to see the first part
of how satan got sin into the church and how it GREW within the church . NONE CORRECTED and the little leaven
that could , OH IT DID and it leavened up the places .

Live by His promise instead of fear.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

 

[frienden thalord]

Live by His promise instead of fear.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

yet many live in fear of man and of society and what society calls good , they now call good.
Many live in fear of man sister . they live in fear of a community that does all to support its sin .
They will make no voice or stand against its agenda .
Oh many sure do live in fear . NOT i sister . man can do what he pleases to me
all sin and all error will be corrected within the church on my watch .
The LORD has me sister and if i am outcast then so be it .
The LORD has me sister and in HIS love shall i do all for the sakes of the people .
Many are terrified to say anything against that which society has deemed good .
Only what society has deemed good and sadly what more churches are calling good
and love . SIS its evil and it cometh of darkness and anything that is LIGHT exposes the darkness .
IT dont try and get along and find common ground , Light exposes darkness .
But believe me sister , when you stand against a united christendom
whose love is for power and control and has spoon fed its peoples whatever their lusts desired
to keep them and to gain the numbers , It might seem like you stand alone .
BUT GOD IS WITH THE LAMBS SISTER . I dont have time to watch souls perish
but rather to do all that i can by his grace and lovely reminders in said bible , TO HELP THIS PEOPLE .
OH its true many reject it . but a few hear every now and again .

 

[frienden thalord]

Live by His promise instead of fear.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

I have a simple questoin my near and dear sister . can you show me where i might have been wrong in what i said .
And
can you show me my fear .
I mean if i be in error dear sister , show me my error .
you just pick that bible up and you show me my error . Help me dear sister . If i be in error or living in fear
be specfic and point it out . Do so with the bible please . this way we can make sure we are truth telling one to the other .

 

[frienden thalord]

Live by His promise instead of fear.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.

Did you know that a lot of decieved folks now use that very scrip
to justify bondage and sin .
See many have spoon fed their churches this other version of freedom , of liberty and etc .
And now many seem to have ZERO fear . they seem to be just living it up and have no fear .
But they living it up IN SIN .
cause some other jesus , some other freedom , some other liberty
made them beleive something that just was not true at all .
Let me give a few examples .
WE HAVE FREEDOM they cried . We are FREE . and yet rather oddly
must say they used this in the wrong text sister .
As they believe they are now free to sin and in sin and its just no big deal really .
But BEING MADE FREE
real freedom . SETS one FREE FROM SIN . not to feel free while in SIN .
WE GOT LIBERTY you pharisees they cried . rather odd though
PAUL said , oh yeah this is in the bible , YE have been called unto liberty
only use not your LIBERTY as an occasion to serve the flesh . aka SINS .
but many do just that and boy do they feel free too .
and yet as free as they FEEL , THEY IN BONDAGE to SIN and follow another jesus , NOT JESUS .
I suggest we get ourselves into the bible .
Lets all be refreshed in them pages . no scrip contradicts another scrip .
and JESUS Didnt come to set us free TO SIN but rather free FROM SIN .

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I have a simple questoin my near and dear sister . can you show me where i might have been wrong in what i said .
And
can you show me my fear .
I mean if i be in error dear sister , show me my error .
you just pick that bible up and you show me my error . Help me dear sister . If i be in error or living in fear
be specfic and point it out . Do so with the bible please . this way we can make sure we are truth telling one to the other .

No error....
I just try not to put too much focus on fear .

 

[Francis 1928]

"Matter of fact I am almost convinc
ed that my resting place will not be heaven."

>>>If you believe Jesus, that is evil because it is not the truth.

18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 19 We love him, because he first loved us.
1.John 4:18

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:1-2

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1.John 1:9

Agree to disagree.I do appreciate the effort in convincing me.I confess my sins every night .I however repeat them.I am willing particapent in those sins. Only he knows what is to come of me.But I deserve all of the punishments coming my way .

 

[Francis 1928]

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
john 5:24

Paul tells us that no one will escape the judgement that there is not one just person. We will be judged for our sins.Ill have my day just like everyone else whether we accept him or not.

 

[Momo97]

So repentance, baptism in the name of Jesus Christ and receiving the Holy Ghost is not Grace?
Per the video, what do you think of the comparison of the two verses?

The works we do, we do by the grace that has been given to us. Only we are not saved by works, but by grace. Works are the CONSEQUENCES, NOT THE CAUSE, of salvation. That's quite a difference.
For example, you can believe and be saved, but not do certain works or do them wrongly because you do not understand Jesus correctly. But you want to obey and eventually you will be corrected. You can also believe and misunderstand ALMOST EVERYTHING and therefore NOT obey ALMOST AT ALL. But the believer's INTENTION is that he wants to OBEY.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Romans 7:18
An unbeliever does not want to obey Jesus. So you as a believer can be saved even without baptism. (see the criminal who was crucified next to Jesus)

What video do you mean?

 

[Hoping2]

If I knowingly want to be justified by the Jewish law, then I turn away from grace through faith in Jesus and want to be justified by deeds of the law. I would then turn away from Jesus and come under the curse:

Don't you see that loving sin, or even just committing sin, is also turning away from Jesus ?

 

[Hoping2]

The works we do, we do by the grace that has been given to us. Only we are not saved by works, but by grace. Works are the CONSEQUENCES, NOT THE CAUSE, of salvation. That's quite a difference.

Do you see by your own standard, that sin is the lack of grace and salvation ?

 

[SandD]

The works we do, we do by the grace that has been given to us. Only we are not saved by works, but by grace. Works are the CONSEQUENCES, NOT THE CAUSE, of salvation. That's quite a difference.
For example, you can believe and be saved, but not do certain works or do them wrongly because you do not understand Jesus correctly. But you want to obey and eventually you will be corrected. You can also believe and misunderstand ALMOST EVERYTHING and therefore NOT obey ALMOST AT ALL. But the believer's INTENTION is that he wants to OBEY.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Romans 7:18
An unbeliever does not want to obey Jesus. So you as a believer can be saved even without baptism. (see the criminal who was crucified next to Jesus)

What video do you mean?

Acts 2:38- Matt 28:19 comparison

This was my OP that I originally asked the question what they thought of this video. I thought you were commenting on it. I thought this video was fascinating. It really had nothing to do with works.

 

[Momo97]

The works we do, we do by the grace that has been given to us. Only we are not saved by works, but by grace. Works are the CONSEQUENCES, NOT THE CAUSE, of salvation. That's quite a difference.
For example, you can believe and be saved, but not do certain works or do them wrongly because you do not understand Jesus correctly. But you want to obey and eventually you will be corrected. You can also believe and misunderstand ALMOST EVERYTHING and therefore NOT obey ALMOST AT ALL. But the believer's INTENTION is that he wants to OBEY.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Romans 7:18
An unbeliever does not want to obey Jesus. So you as a believer can be saved even without baptism. (see the criminal who was crucified next to Jesus)

What video do you mean?

PS:

24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
John 7:24

7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
1.Sam 16:7

 

[Momo97]

PS:

24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
John 7:24

7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart.
1.Sam 16:7

PS2: You know that the Pharisees fasted and prayed and still disbelieved. Although they did deeds, their heart did it for their own glory.