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I've been onto islamic discussion pages, and you should as well. If you honestly have never considered how absolutely embarrassing it is to claim yourself to be "non"-something, and yet have no idea as to how or why due to a lack of knowledge about that thing, I strongly urge you to pay closer attention. As an a-theist, I would find myself to be an embarrassment if I had little to no understanding of the religions I claimed to be "A" towards. Christianity/abrahamic religion is so incredibly popular that trying to get away with never running into someone who wants to talk about it is impossible, and I don't like feeling as though I have nothing to say when those conversations come up. Being a part of forums like this also helps me learn more information in the areas of science/etc. because I spend time reading up on things that i may have not given much attention to before, so that I can support the things I say in a thread (or check what other people say)---I actually know more about evolution having been on here because some of these threads have motivated me to read essays and watch lectures.
- learn something about christianity
- correct misconceptions about myself and others like myself when false/hateful statements are made
- open a window to let some fresh air into the room
i am a hard-core atheist.
edit: I first wrote "hard-corn"
I guess I am a little close-minded. I believe simply because of how I was raised.
Same reason I listen to Christian radio and talk to street preachers - because I have to share a planet with you. It's important to keep up on what religious people believe, because beliefs inform actions (and vice-versa), an actions have real world consequences.
Also because I enjoy it.
To be an 'atheist' as opposed to being 'agnostic' is simply anti-theism. And anti-theism is by definition illogical because there is no reasonable scientific theory which says reality did not come from a sentient maker- our origin, scientifically, is an unanswered question.
The thing I don't get is why it doesn't bother some people to not have a settled belief of origins. I can't imagine not having a belief in God, I would lose my mind to be honest.
And that is why I believe everyone who is atheist is actually agnostic. How could you not be_
I came here because of a post in the Politics and Religion section of a cycling board I frequent that was about stupid things Christians say on the internet. Each cite was identified by board.
Being an evil atheist and not a trusting Christian I checked, not just that the individual posts existed but also just how representative they were and for what kind of reception they received.
Some sites fared rather poorly, but here there were many reasonable posters and insightful posts. It wasn't until later I realized there were atheists, agnostics and believers of other faiths here and a pretty large percentage of the rational posts were from non-Christians.
But by then there were several posters whose opinions I had come to respect. Some Christian some not. And a few of the Christian posters are both rational and kind. I find it good to be reminded that such Christians exist and threads like this one make me pause to think and I then think that being a jerk and being loud go hand in hand and that this means the jerks are overrepresented in what I see here and in life. Perhaps grossly overrepresented. I find I prefer remembering that and thinking there are many good, but quiet, Christians in this world.
Interesting
An atheist is someone who holds to no deity. An agnostic is the same, and both have the same reason for such- they have no knowledge of a deity.
An agnostic theist I suppose would have to be a deist, maybe? But then again, they would have already made a direct proclamation that there is a creator.
Thats right up there with..I am not trying to start an argument.
But I notice there are a lot of atheist and agnostics here. I am just surprise. I can't imagine going on Islamic Forum. So why are there a lot of atheists and agnostics on a Christian Forum?
@Stanfordella is an agnostic Christian.An atheist is someone who holds to no deity. An agnostic is the same, and both have the same reason for such- they have no knowledge of a deity.
An agnostic theist I suppose would have to be a deist, maybe? But then again, they would have already made a direct proclamation that there is a creator.
Any atheist who is honest with themselves is an agnostic.
The thing I don't get is why it doesn't bother some people to not have a settled belief of origins.
I can't imagine not having a belief in God, I would lose my mind to be honest.
And that is why I believe everyone who is atheist is actually agnostic. How could you not be_
When I use the word, I mean it to say "I am not convinced of your religious claims".To be an 'atheist' as opposed to being 'agnostic' is simply anti-theism.
The only "sentience" that I am aware of (no pun intended) is an emergent property of a brain. In that context, your objection (sentient "maker" without a brain?) is incoherent.And anti-theism is by definition illogical because there is no reasonable scientific theory which says reality did not come from a sentient maker- our origin, scientifically, is an unanswered question.
It is not something that I care about; it does not inform my worldview.The thing I don't get is why it doesn't bother some people to not have a settled belief of origins.
Many people, including myself, get along fine without such beliefs.I can't imagine not having a belief in God, I would lose my mind to be honest.
I would describe my theological position as ignostic.And that is why I believe everyone who is atheist is actually agnostic. How could you not be_
To be an 'atheist' as opposed to being 'agnostic' is simply anti-theism. And anti-theism is by definition illogical because there is no reasonable scientific theory which says reality did not come from a sentient maker- our origin, scientifically, is an unanswered question.
The thing I don't get is why it doesn't bother some people to not have a settled belief of origins. I can't imagine not having a belief in God, I would lose my mind to be honest.
And that is why I believe everyone who is atheist is actually agnostic. How could you not be_
I started out life as a Christian. Finally had the courage to admit god/s don't exist. I find CF is a good place to vet my arguments.I am not trying to start an argument.
But I notice there are a lot of atheist and agnostics here. I am just surprise. I can't imagine going on Islamic Forum. So why are there a lot of atheists and agnostics on a Christian Forum?
Why would you say that. God to you is much more than he would be to others. From what I've seen most people show up on these debate sites looking for a connection. I don't mean a relationship. I mean a place to be apart of and believe you,me, there's a lot of websites out there to register in, but it's the feeling within that keeps people coming back.They are looking for God.
Religion fills a hole that those who look for it. Atheiest also have a hole to fill but their pallet thirsts for something different. There is no right or wrong way to live your life as long as you are comfortable with the dirrection you are travelling.Atheists just know when to realize the game is over.
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