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<blockquote data-quote="Ana the Ist" data-source="post: 76123115" data-attributes="member: 302807"><p>There's a couple of unpleasant truths at the bottom of capitalism that make the idea inherently unappealing to anyone who likes to imagine themselves good and moral....and so is the rest of mankind. </p><p></p><p>So let's look at these truths...</p><p></p><p>1. People tend to work for their own betterment and to improve their situation. This gets called "people are greedy" by those who hate capitalism. Capitalists say "people are self interested". </p><p></p><p>The bottom line is this....if working at a particular task didn't improve one's situation, why would they do it? It fun to imagine people working for the benefit of others, but it's not realistic. A lot of jobs are tedious, boring, thankless, and difficult. Why do them if you reap no rewards?</p><p></p><p>2. Capitalism benefits some more than others....aka inequality. This is also true. Creating a product of value or even just figuring out what is valuable is difficult. Those few who do it reap rewards...the many who don't, fail. I had a friend who had tried his hand at a hot dog specialized restaurant, or food truck, or whatever....I don't remember. I remember a lot of friends wishing him luck, telling him he would succeed, and I didn't. He wasn't happy about that. He asked why and I said I hate hot dogs. He said lots of people like hot dogs...and I said that's true, but how many will eat them once a week? Twice a month? How good are these dogs?</p><p></p><p>He did it....set up the business, worked hard, and went out of business a year later. We all heard the story and only once, while a bit drunk, did he thank me. He said that everyone didn't want to dump on his idea...so he had the false impression it was a good idea. He said it was a year later, tens of thousands in debt, that he was considering getting loans and selling assets to keep his business afloat....and he remembered what I said, and realized the demand was never there, and it never would be. </p><p></p><p>This guy hadn't spoken with me for 5 months. I had really shot down his idea, in front of friends, and he wasn't happy about it. At the time, he thought I was being jealous and petty....and didn't want him to succeed. He hadn't turned a profit after the first two months. He was the only employee after 5. The whole time friends and family cheered him on.</p><p></p><p>He realized later I just didn't want him to make a bad mistake....and because I have no tact or subtlety....it sounded mean.</p><p></p><p>Not everyone wins at capitalism. It does seem to benefit everyone more than any other system conceived though...so as I always say, it's unfair and difficult, but until some better alternative comes along....hooray for capitalism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ana the Ist, post: 76123115, member: 302807"] There's a couple of unpleasant truths at the bottom of capitalism that make the idea inherently unappealing to anyone who likes to imagine themselves good and moral....and so is the rest of mankind. So let's look at these truths... 1. People tend to work for their own betterment and to improve their situation. This gets called "people are greedy" by those who hate capitalism. Capitalists say "people are self interested". The bottom line is this....if working at a particular task didn't improve one's situation, why would they do it? It fun to imagine people working for the benefit of others, but it's not realistic. A lot of jobs are tedious, boring, thankless, and difficult. Why do them if you reap no rewards? 2. Capitalism benefits some more than others....aka inequality. This is also true. Creating a product of value or even just figuring out what is valuable is difficult. Those few who do it reap rewards...the many who don't, fail. I had a friend who had tried his hand at a hot dog specialized restaurant, or food truck, or whatever....I don't remember. I remember a lot of friends wishing him luck, telling him he would succeed, and I didn't. He wasn't happy about that. He asked why and I said I hate hot dogs. He said lots of people like hot dogs...and I said that's true, but how many will eat them once a week? Twice a month? How good are these dogs? He did it....set up the business, worked hard, and went out of business a year later. We all heard the story and only once, while a bit drunk, did he thank me. He said that everyone didn't want to dump on his idea...so he had the false impression it was a good idea. He said it was a year later, tens of thousands in debt, that he was considering getting loans and selling assets to keep his business afloat....and he remembered what I said, and realized the demand was never there, and it never would be. This guy hadn't spoken with me for 5 months. I had really shot down his idea, in front of friends, and he wasn't happy about it. At the time, he thought I was being jealous and petty....and didn't want him to succeed. He hadn't turned a profit after the first two months. He was the only employee after 5. The whole time friends and family cheered him on. He realized later I just didn't want him to make a bad mistake....and because I have no tact or subtlety....it sounded mean. Not everyone wins at capitalism. It does seem to benefit everyone more than any other system conceived though...so as I always say, it's unfair and difficult, but until some better alternative comes along....hooray for capitalism. [/QUOTE]
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