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Ware is this idea you've used in the bible
You can't have favor in GODS eyes unless your righteous that's been a major theme in the word from OT to NT
I gave you passages " I didn't just make up or say blanket statements at" I truly try to stick with scripture :
The passage says clearly through faith multiple times and righteousness multiple times so let's read what the are saying.
note: Now if faith produces righteousness after you've repented !
Mind you jesus blood hadn't been shed yet for David's sins to be COVARD and he wasn't obeying the LAW YET so no sacrifice for sin
!!! So how did his sins go away??
Repentance not sinning = righteousness
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin
Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]4‬:[bless and do not curse]6-8‬ KJV
ToBeBlessed said:Jesus deemed us righteous. You are trying so so hard to be. I am deemed righteous by Christ already sweetie. You keep trying and trying and trying and trying.
I'm meanly defending my believe its you who try's and fails
Ok answer the paradox
your theory gives us then
If only past sins are forgiven how then are they COVARD wile your sinning!?
Past is clear behind you / repented
ToBeBlessed said:I'm done with this. Your not open. Your heart is hard and closed. It is bitter and I'm not participating in that anymore with you. Listen not with earthly ears. Write more to yourself. You like to speak. A lot.
ToBeBlessed said:I'm done with this. Your not open. Your heart is hard and closed. It is bitter and I'm not participating in that anymore with you. Listen not with earthly ears. Write more to yourself. You like to speak. A lot.
thepromiseofgrace said:mixing Grace and law defeats Grace completely, I agree. the new more glorious covenant is ours, Grace through the blood of Jesus and his free gift of his righteousness.
hmw said:Matt 16:11,12 How is it you do not understand that I did not speak to you concerning bread?—but to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” Then they understood that He did not tell them to beware of the leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and Sadducees. This warning to beware of the leaven/doctrine of legalists still applies today. Beware the leaven/doctrine of Lori. A little leaven leavens the whole lump, Gal 5:9. We must not mix works of the law, with grace. Rom 11:6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
BryanW92 said:My pastor preached on "tetelestai" today. If you don't know the full implications of "It is finished", I urge you all do some study on the word. He answered all of the charges made by Lori and her Restored Church of God against the rest of the Christian church. His sermon won't be on the web until Wednesday or Thursday, so check this website out for some information on tetelestai: https://carm.org/it-is-finished (A note for those "Is it in the bible?" types: Yes, it is in the bible. It is in the original Greek.)
My church is not RCG lol
BryanW92 said:then why are you copying and pasting paragraphs from documents on their web site? After you provided a link yesterday, I sat down and read several documents on their site and they are saying the exact same thing as you. In fact, a direct copy and paste from their site is where all those & codes come from in your posts.
I'm a follower of Christ there based off Arminians I think?
I just got scripture information off of a web site
Sorry your assumptions are wrong
BryanW92 said:So, you are here to teach us what is right, and you have to copy documents from a web site for a church that is little more than a cult? Please, so do some study on your own and find people you can discuss it with instead of trying to demand that they listen to you and follow you. I used to be Arminian and now I am Calvinist because I sought answers instead of demanding that everyone believe what I believed. As an Arminian, I had questions that their theology cannot answer. Reformed theology answered them all. Study, listen, and then discuss. It is the biblical way to learn.
I hope my search for truth is not a stumbling block for you
I am trying to understand to truth based off The bible.
I'm finding what seems to be contradictions of what I'm taught in church / what you seem to be saying and what I read and I'm on a mission for understanding!
I hope my search for truth is not a stumbling block for you
I am trying to understand to truth based off The bible.
I'm finding what seems to be contradictions of what I'm taught in church / what you seem to be saying and what I read and I'm on a mission for understanding!
BryanW92 said:If you are seeking truth within Arminian theology, I invite you to read John Wesley's "A Plain Account of Christian Perfection". It may help.
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