Hebrews 12:17
For ye know how that afterward,
when he would have inherited the blessing,
he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance,
though he sought it carefully with tears.
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Hebrews 12:17For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. ([bless and do not curse]Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]6‬:[bless and do not curse]23‬ KJV)
Amen !!
This is addressing the first lie
The serpent told eve we will not die
GOD clearly disagrees!
Question who is the lier?
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
([bless and do not curse]Genesis‬ [bless and do not curse]3‬:[bless and do not curse]2-4‬ KJV)
ron4shua said:Greetings , ([bless and do not curse]Acts‬ [bless and do not curse]8‬:[bless and do not curse]9-25‬ KJV) Acts 8 The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 9Now there was a certain man called Shim‛on, who formerly was practising magic in the city and astonishing the people of Shomeron, claiming to be someone great, 10to whom they all were giving heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, “This one is the power of Elohim, which is great.” 11And they were giving heed to him because for a long time he had amazed them with his magic. 12And when they believed Philip as he brought the Good News about the reign of Elohim and the Name of יהושע Messiah, both men and women were immersed. 13And Shim‛on himself also believed. And when he was immersed he continued with Philip, and was amazed, seeing the miracles and signs which took place. 14And when the emissaries who were at Yerushalayim heard that Shomeron had received the Word of Elohim, they sent Kĕpha and Yoḥanan to them, 15who, when they had come down, prayed for them to receive the Set-apart Spirit, 16for He had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been immersed in the Name of the Master יהושע. 17Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Set-apart Spirit. 18And Shim‛on, seeing that through the laying on of the hands of the emissaries the Set-apart Spirit was given, he offered them money, 19saying, “Give me this authority too, so that anyone I lay hands on shall receive the Set-apart Spirit.” 20But Kĕpha said to him, “Let your silver perish with you, because you thought to buy the gift of Elohim through money! 21“You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before Elohim. 22“Repent therefore of this evil of yours, and plead with Elohim to forgive you the intention of your heart. 23“For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by unrighteousness.” 24But Shim‛on answering, said, “Plead with the Master for me, so that none of what you had said shall come upon me.” 25Then after they had earnestly witnessed and spoken the Word of יהוה, they returned to Yerushalayim, bringing the Good News in many villages of the Shomeronites. HalleluYAH .
ron4shua said:Greetings , ([bless and do not curse]Acts‬ [bless and do not curse]8‬:[bless and do not curse]9-25‬ KJV) Acts 8 The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 9Now there was a certain man called Shim‛on, who formerly was practising magic in the city and astonishing the people of Shomeron, claiming to be someone great, 10to whom they all were giving heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, “This one is the power of Elohim, which is great.” 11And they were giving heed to him because for a long time he had amazed them with his magic. 12And when they believed Philip as he brought the Good News about the reign of Elohim and the Name of יהושע Messiah, both men and women were immersed. 13And Shim‛on himself also believed. And when he was immersed he continued with Philip, and was amazed, seeing the miracles and signs which took place. 14And when the emissaries who were at Yerushalayim heard that Shomeron had received the Word of Elohim, they sent Kĕpha and Yoḥanan to them, 15who, when they had come down, prayed for them to receive the Set-apart Spirit, 16for He had not yet fallen on any of them, but they had only been immersed in the Name of the Master יהושע. 17Then they laid hands on them, and they received the Set-apart Spirit. 18And Shim‛on, seeing that through the laying on of the hands of the emissaries the Set-apart Spirit was given, he offered them money, 19saying, “Give me this authority too, so that anyone I lay hands on shall receive the Set-apart Spirit.” 20But Kĕpha said to him, “Let your silver perish with you, because you thought to buy the gift of Elohim through money! 21“You have neither part nor lot in this matter, for your heart is not right before Elohim. 22“Repent therefore of this evil of yours, and plead with Elohim to forgive you the intention of your heart. 23“For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and bound by unrighteousness.” 24But Shim‛on answering, said, “Plead with the Master for me, so that none of what you had said shall come upon me.” 25Then after they had earnestly witnessed and spoken the Word of יהוה, they returned to Yerushalayim, bringing the Good News in many villages of the Shomeronites. HalleluYAH .
lori milne said:Jude 1:3-4 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. [4] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
ron4shua said:Jude 1 The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 1Yehuḏah, a servant of יהושע Messiah, and brother of Ya‛aqoḇ, to those who are called, set-apart by Elohim the Father, and preserved in יהושע Messiah: 2Compassion, and peace, and love be increased to you. 3Beloved ones, making all haste to write to you concerning our common deliverance, I felt the necessity to write to you urging you to earnestly contend for the belief which was once for all delivered to the set-apart ones. 4For certain men have slipped in, whose judgment was written about long ago, wicked onesa perverting the favour of our Elohim for indecency, and denying the only Master יהוה and our Master יהושע Messiah. 5But I intend to remind you, though you once knew this, that יהוה, having saved a people out of the land of Mitsrayim, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the messengers who did not keep their own principality, but left their own dwelling, He has kept in everlasting shackles under darkness for the judgment of the great day. 7Even as Seḏom and Amorah and the cities around them in a similar way to these, having given themselves over to whoring and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, undergoing judicial punishment of everlasting fire. 8In the same way, indeed, these dreamers defile the flesh, and reject authority, and speak evil of esteemed ones. 9But Miḵa’ĕl the chief messenger, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Mosheh, presumed not to bring against him a blasphemous accusation, but said, “יהוה rebuke you!” 10But these blaspheme that which they do not know. And that which they know naturally, like unreasoning beasts, in these they corrupt themselves. 11Woe to them! Because they have gone in the way of Qayin, and gave themselves to the delusion of Bil‛am for a reward, and perished in the rebellion of Qoraḥ. 12These are rocky reefs in your love feasts, feasting with you, feeding themselves without fear, waterless clouds borne about by the winds, late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots, 13wild waves of the sea foaming up their own shame, straying stars for whom blackness of darkness is kept forever. 14And Ḥanoḵ, the seventh from Adam, also prophesied of these, saying, “See, יהוה comes with His myriads of set-apart ones, 15to execute judgment on all, to punish all who are wicked among them concerning all their wicked works which they have committed in a wicked way, and concerning all the harsh words which wicked sinners have spoken against Him.” 16These are grumblers, complainers, who walk according to their own lusts, and their mouth speaks proudly, admiring faces of others for the sake of gain. 17But you, beloved ones, remember the words spoken before by the emissaries of our Master יהושע Messiah, 18because they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own wicked lusts. 19These are the ones who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. 20But you, beloved ones, building yourselves up on your most set-apart belief, praying in the Set-apart Spirit, 21keep yourselves in the love of Elohim, looking for the compassion of our Master יהושע Messiah unto everlasting life. 22And show compassion toward some who are doubting, 23but others save with fear, snatching them out of the fire, hating, even the garment defiled by the flesh.a 24And to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you blameless before the presence of His esteem with exceeding joy, 25to the only wise Elohim, our Saviour, be esteem and greatness and might and authority, both now and forever. Amĕn. The Scriptures 1998
ron4shua said:Jude 1 The Scriptures (ISR 1998) 1Yehuḏah, a servant of יהושע Messiah, and brother of Ya‛aqoḇ, to those who are called, set-apart by Elohim the Father, and preserved in יהושע Messiah: 2Compassion, and peace, and love be increased to you. 3Beloved ones, making all haste to write to you concerning our common deliverance, I felt the necessity to write to you urging you to earnestly contend for the belief which was once for all delivered to the set-apart ones. 4For certain men have slipped in, whose judgment was written about long ago, wicked onesa perverting the favour of our Elohim for indecency, and denying the only Master יהוה and our Master יהושע Messiah. 5But I intend to remind you, though you once knew this, that יהוה, having saved a people out of the land of Mitsrayim, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the messengers who did not keep their own principality, but left their own dwelling, He has kept in everlasting shackles under darkness for the judgment of the great day. 7Even as Seḏom and Amorah and the cities around them in a similar way to these, having given themselves over to whoring and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, undergoing judicial punishment of everlasting fire. 8In the same way, indeed, these dreamers defile the flesh, and reject authority, and speak evil of esteemed ones. 9But Miḵa’ĕl the chief messenger, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Mosheh, presumed not to bring against him a blasphemous accusation, but said, “יהוה rebuke you!” 10But these blaspheme that which they do not know. And that which they know naturally, like unreasoning beasts, in these they corrupt themselves. 11Woe to them! Because they have gone in the way of Qayin, and gave themselves to the delusion of Bil‛am for a reward, and perished in the rebellion of Qoraḥ. 12These are rocky reefs in your love feasts, feasting with you, feeding themselves without fear, waterless clouds borne about by the winds, late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots, 13wild waves of the sea foaming up their own shame, straying stars for whom blackness of darkness is kept forever. 14And Ḥanoḵ, the seventh from Adam, also prophesied of these, saying, “See, יהוה comes with His myriads of set-apart ones, 15to execute judgment on all, to punish all who are wicked among them concerning all their wicked works which they have committed in a wicked way, and concerning all the harsh words which wicked sinners have spoken against Him.” 16These are grumblers, complainers, who walk according to their own lusts, and their mouth speaks proudly, admiring faces of others for the sake of gain. 17But you, beloved ones, remember the words spoken before by the emissaries of our Master יהושע Messiah, 18because they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own wicked lusts. 19These are the ones who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. 20But you, beloved ones, building yourselves up on your most set-apart belief, praying in the Set-apart Spirit, 21keep yourselves in the love of Elohim, looking for the compassion of our Master יהושע Messiah unto everlasting life. 22And show compassion toward some who are doubting, 23but others save with fear, snatching them out of the fire, hating, even the garment defiled by the flesh.a 24And to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you blameless before the presence of His esteem with exceeding joy, 25to the only wise Elohim, our Saviour, be esteem and greatness and might and authority, both now and forever. Amĕn. The Scriptures 1998
This is the Calvinism theory or OSAS theory we have today on basically all churches! Saved by grace ! Ware is saved by the blood of Jesus in these theory's ? Their isn't true forgiveness with out blood!
BryanW92 said:Calvinists believe that we are saved by the blood, which is freely given as grace. The WCF chapters 8 (Of Christ the Mediator) and 10 (Of Effectual Calling) explain this in great detail, with all of the scriptural references.
lori milne said:The blood of Jesus is not grace Blood+ faith = righteousness that formula is in he bible clearly and is what gives you grace / favor in Gods eyes = salvation
The blood of Jesus is not grace
Blood+ faith = righteousness that formula is in he bible clearly and is what gives you grace / favor in Gods eyes = salvation
The blood of Jesus is not grace
Blood+ faith = righteousness that formula is in he bible clearly and is what gives you grace / favor in Gods eyes = salvation
The meaning of grace IN this and all passages what was meant is favor in GODS eyesthepromiseofgrace said:Romans chapter 4 4 What then shall we say that Abraham our father has found according to the flesh?[a] 2 For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. 3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” 4 Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt.
thepromiseofgrace said:if blood ans faith make salvation why put law in it.
Jesus finished what the couldn't do with out Himthepromiseofgrace said:perhaps i missed the answer , why did Jesus have to come?
The meaning of grace IN this and all passages what was meant is favor in GODS eyes
And it came after faith to righteousness to grace
Which made the Gentiles/ Greeks want to fallow the law willingly
The question was asked then because the Jews were also conflicted with this law over grace this is a great controversy that has been since jesus came lol
For what saith the scripture?
""The big question the writer is using Abraham clearly because he was uncircumcised before he received faith and became righteous then he found favor and willing obeys the law! ""
""And David was used ton VALIDATE all forgiven sins past transgressions Before righteousness"""
was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness. How was it then reckoned? when he was in circumcision, or in uncircumcision? Not in circumcision, but in uncircumcision. And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised. For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith
Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]4‬:[bless and do not curse]3-13‬ KJV
Amen
I'm glad you used this passage to show me what I was trying to show you
We are funny
Jesus finished what the law couldn't do by its selflori milne said:Jesus finished what the could
ToBeBlessed said:Grace came right AFTER the resurrection. In the completed work of Christ. Grace is what He did for us and what we RECEIVE from what He has done. How you can put 'grace' after faith and righteousness is beyond me. Do you not realize that if Christ had never extended grace to us, we wouldn't have been offered salvation? What could we have done to earn salvation if it would not have been given to us through His grace? Nothing. So, without His grace and His gift to us. We would be lost. I don't understand why that is so hard to understand.
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