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i guess seeing as people here have different opinions viewing the death penalty,war and bush to mine ill say that if you believe the death penalty is legal then you should be allowed to rejoice in his death. But if you believe that death penalty is a sin then you would be rejoicing in something evil.
Iran has as much right as the US or france or britain to have nuclear technology.
every man's freedom fighter is an other man's terrorist.

You think a nation that is bent on and has said they want to wipe another nation of the map and follows areligion that wants to force the entire world to switch to their 1 religion or kill the world has a right to have a nuclear bomb??
 
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You think a nation that is bent on and has said they want to wipe another nation of the map and follows areligion that wants to force the entire world to switch to their 1 religion or kill the world has a right to have a nuclear bomb??

the same has been said about the states. Christianty doesnt allow for other religions. The US use force to spread their ideal ( see middle east). Why should some countries be allowed to have this technology and not others? So far Iran hasnt declared war on anyone, if anyone should have their nuclear arsenal removed its the USA, they've made war twice against the will of the UN.
The US doesnt want the world to "switch to their religion" but they want them to switch to their political ideals. As the cold war times demonstrates, the states imposed their capitalist views by imprisoning people with communist views, which is far from democratic.
 
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i guess seeing as people here have different opinions viewing the death penalty,war and bush to mine ill say that if you believe the death penalty is legal then you should be allowed to rejoice in his death. But if you believe that death penalty is a sin then you would be rejoicing in something evil.
Iran has as much right as the US or france or britain to have nuclear technology.
every man's freedom fighter is an other man's terrorist.

First, the death penalty IS legal... here and in Iraq. So, it isn't wrong by way of law. Moral or not, that's a different story.
But anyways, when you want to wipe out all of a specific people, that makes you evil. When you are Iraq or Afghanistan, and you are a "religious" government who thinks Christianity and America are dangerous because they have a freedom.... than you are Hitler. No difference to me.
 
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God is the judge for him. To me in away he deserved it but also I hate to leave it up to us man what was right. My prayer is we hope that the world will become peaceful

Ahh, it's only partly up to us. He needed to be gone. He's dangerous. Sin is sin... yes, but murder of mass ammounts of people is dangerous. There's no promise we'd be able to keep him in prison, he'd been needin' executin' .... And, GOD decides the eternal fate... we just gave him to God a little quicker ...
 
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Iran has as much right as the US or france or britain to have nuclear technology.
Well, in a normal situation that would be true, but when you consider the fact that Iran has expressed interest in wiping Israel off the face of the earth it becomes a problem.

The difference between Iran and America is we're not planning to use our nuclear weapons for malicious purposes.
 
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First, the death penalty IS legal
sorry for the bad wording, i meant depending if you believe it to be legal in the eyes of God or not. Just because the government in some countries legalizes the DP doesnt mean we, as christians have to rejoice in it. The law says we can get drunk if we want too but christians as a general rule dont because they put the bible before the human laws.
My opinion is that you can rejoice if you think the death penalty is good in the eyes of God, but if you believe the DP is evil then you shouldn't.
i hope im clearer now.
 
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sorry for the bad wording, i meant depending if you believe it to be legal in the eyes of God or not. Just because the government in some countries legalizes the DP doesnt mean we, as christians have to rejoice in it. The law says we can get drunk if we want too but christians as a general rule dont because they put the bible before the human laws.
My opinion is that you can rejoice if you think the death penalty is good in the eyes of God, but if you believe the DP is evil then you shouldn't.
i hope im clearer now.

:thumbsup: Absolutely, thanking and you are sooo right. However, regardless of our beliefs as Christians, the governments are given right (beginning it leviticus with eye for an eye, which is not a verse aimed at individuals but a verse designed to govern Israel) to execute. It really doesn't matter, because if we mess up and execute someone who didn't deserve it, all the more chance they'll have in Heaven (And I mean if they were already saved, they'll be rewarded for their patience and perseverance through all that stuff)

Also, getting drunk should be wrong in its entirety (which is mentioned in the Bible that drunkeness and gluttony is sinful), it causes some serious problems and could be harmful to the user and others. But having a drink in moderation is permitted. :)
 
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Saddam was an evil man. He had a dark heart. He had a lust for power,and cared nothing for the consequences of it. However, I do not believe that his demise was a result of his behavior,but of ours.The things Saddam did. Those were his deeds. The things we did,those were ours. Personally, I seriously doubt that to God it makes any difference. Evil is evil,no matter who does it. We are not judges. Just witnesses. What do we witness as Christians? We witness his gospel and his two commandments. It is pointless to do this if we don't have it in our heart to live by them. People will see what we do and know we are liars. The most common complaint I read in the columns posted by athiests,is the hypocracy of those claiming Christ. This is a legitimate claim. I for one am not glad to see Saddam dead. I hate to think of anyone dieing an unrepentant sinner.
 
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Saddam was an evil man. He had a dark heart. He had a lust for power,and cared nothing for the consequences of it. However, I do not believe that his demise was a result of his behavior,but of ours.The things Saddam did. Those were his deeds. The things we did,those were ours. Personally, I seriously doubt that to God it makes any difference. Evil is evil,no matter who does it. We are not judges. Just witnesses. What do we witness as Christians? We witness his gospel and his two commandments. It is pointless to do this if we don't have it in our heart to live by them. People will see what we do and know we are liars. The most common complaint I read in the columns posted by athiests,is the hypocracy of those claiming Christ. This is a legitimate claim. I for one am not glad to see Saddam dead. I hate to think of anyone dieing an unrepentant sinner.

Sad, yes. Really, really sad.


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sorry for the bad wording, i meant depending if you believe it to be legal in the eyes of God or not. Just because the government in some countries legalizes the DP doesnt mean we, as christians have to rejoice in it. The law says we can get drunk if we want too but christians as a general rule dont because they put the bible before the human laws.
My opinion is that you can rejoice if you think the death penalty is good in the eyes of God, but if you believe the DP is evil then you shouldn't.
i hope im clearer now.

This is what the bible says about the death penalty

Deuteronomy 17 : 12 The man who shows contempt for the judge or for the priest who stands ministering there to the LORD your God must be put to death. You must purge the evil from Israel. 13 All the people will hear and be afraid, and will not be contemptuous again.

God bless,
Carey
 
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