Hurricane Katrina

[eddy67]

I just read that the French Quarter of New Orleans was spared a great deal of destruction from the hurricane, and the French Quarter is were the debaucheries of Mardi Gras takes place. In fact, many of the Quarter's residents even went to bars to celebrate their good fortune.

So if God sent the hurricane to punish Louisiana for Mardi Gras then He missed His target; it would be like sending fire and brimestone upon Sodom and Gomorrah but leaving the cities virtually unscathed.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Nevermind then! Haha

Guess that eliminates the wrath option

 

[NumberOneSon]

Nevermind then! Haha

Guess that eliminates the wrath option

Yup.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

This prophecy was given last year regarding Louisiana. Ivan wasn't the one...but Katrina could have been. It sounds kosher to me.

http://elijahlist.com/words/display_word.html?ID=2459)

 

[Starforsaken]

acts your chart means nothing, just because the number of hurricanes have lessened dsnt mean anything. so there were more in the past but how many of those were huge class 5 ones that flooded entire cities. and its not just hurricanes its everything combined but then again your a preterist.

 

[Brain Damage]

Do you see the figures Acts posted?

Bruce Lee once said , "it's like a finger pointing to the moon , and if you only look at the finger then you will miss all that heavenly glory".


And so when people like yourself only play around with US hurricane stats , you will tend to miss the larger picture.


Let's not get caught just looking at the finger , let's look to where the finger is pointing.

WORLD SCIENTISTS WARNING TO HUMANITY.

Human beings and the natural world are on a collision course. Human activities inflict harsh and often irreversible damage on the environment and on critical resources. If not checked, many of our current practices put at serious risk the future that we wish for human society and the plant and animal kingdoms, and may so alter the living world that it will be unable to sustain life in the manner that we know. Fundamental changes are urgent if we are to avoid the collision our present course will bring about.

We the undersigned, senior members of the world's scientific community, hereby warn all humanity of what lies ahead. A great change in our stewardship of the earth and the life on it, is required, if vast human misery is to be avoided and our global home on this planet is not to be irretrievably mutilated.

Over 1,500 members of national, regional, and international science academies have signed the Warning. Sixtynine nations from all parts of Earth are represented, including each of the twelve most populous nations and the nineteen largest economic powers. The full list includes a majority of the Nobel laureates in the sciences. Awards and institutional affiliations are listed for the purpose of identification only. The Nobel Prize in medicine is for physiology or medicine.

http://www.worldtrans.org/whole/warning.html

 

[BarbB]

Do you see the figures Acts posted?

Where are the figures from 2000 to 2004?

I was thinking about the fact that Israel seems sort of immune to natural disasters. There was a drought which ended in November 2002. But otherwise, not much. Of course, Israelis seem to get blown up with some regularity. Guess I'd rather have a hurricane than be afraid to get on a public bus.

You all believe what you want. The USA will be/is being judged.

 

[Antoinette.Marie]

I just read that the French Quarter of New Orleans was spared a great deal of destruction from the hurricane, and the French Quarter is were the debaucheries of Mardi Gras takes place. In fact, many of the Quarter's residents even went to bars to celebrate their good fortune.

So if God sent the hurricane to punish Louisiana for Mardi Gras then He missed His target; it would be like sending fire and brimestone upon Sodom and Gomorrah but leaving the cities virtually unscathed.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Uh, sorry, but the French Quarter is practically under water and the water is still rising. Yeah, the French Quarter WAS spared the wind and rain (somewhat) of Katrina, but flooding is HORRIBLE right now. People are now having to find ANY MEANS to get out.

I know that New Orleans is a huge place for sin, but what about Las Vegas?? The Red Light District in Amsterdam?? I don't know if God is planning to ruin that city or not, but why don't we let God decide? Predicting isn't something we are supposed to do, right??

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

This situation isn't over by a long shot, even though the hurricane has passed. The aftermath is going to tell the tale. Wait until the diseases start spreading from the polluted waters from all of the dead animals floating in it and the sewage. If they don't get all of the people out of there with this rising water, there is going to be much more death, and this will be from people's tempers flaring against each other. The anger has already started, and this is just over waiting in line to get gas at one of the few stations that was open. Looting, which has aready started, is going to be a major problem also if the people aren't removed. People are going to become like hungry wild roving animals in this city if they aren't evacuated.
They have already stated that people need to be alert for the animals that are still alive, that they can attack you. They are afraid, and will be hungry. This is going to be like watching a horror movie, but the events will be real. People can post the hurricane maps to their hearts content, but this is the NOW, and this is JUDGMENT which will bring in the glory of God. People will turn to God from this disaster.

 

[parousia70]

The way this thread is going, shouldn't it be moved to the "current events" or the "prayer request" forum?

Unless ya'll want to steer the topic back to katrinia's eschatological significance, or lack thereof.........

 

[Starforsaken]

can someone ban preterists form posting?

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

The way this thread is going, shouldn't it be moved to the "current events" or the "prayer request" forum?

Unless ya'll want to steer the topic back to katrinia's eschatological significance, or lack thereof.........

Oh, it has Eschatological signifigance.....you just never see it, so won't bother enlightening your Preterist doctrine AGAIN. As far as the "prayer request forum", if Christians aren't praying about this already, then I doubt their Christianity!!! We don't have to post prayer requests for this in some forum. The whole world knows about it. My forum is in the Holy of Holies before God Himself!!!

 

[NumberOneSon]

acts your chart means nothing, just because the number of hurricanes have lessened dsnt mean anything. so there were more in the past but how many of those were huge class 5 ones that flooded entire cities.

Ok, try and tell me this chart means nothing - it shows the actual hurricane classes. And by the way, it reflects the same pattern as my other "meaningless" chart:

and its not just hurricanes its everything combined but then again your a preterist.

Preterism has little to do with it. Christians with eschatological views other than preterism have also replied to this thread in virtually the same way I did.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[frater]

It means nothing. God does not play by your statistics. He does not Reign by your Science.

You can be certain that the Storm had significance because they Bible tells you that it has significance.

Had there been anything worth saving in New Orleans and the surrounding areas, then the events never would have occured.

You can mark that down in your grounded research. When you play by naturalist empirical science, make certain that your factor in Omnipotence.

 

[Starforsaken]

whatever acts, ive seen your other posts its no use arguing with you about this, i posted this for others who shared my views. you dont agree and thats ok but by posting these charts, it makes little difference. you choose to focus on one aspect being hurricanes when it is everything, things that you could not possibly create statistics for. btw last your chart shows in 1990-1999 we were heading back into the red zone, id like to see how much further its gone from 1999-2005+

 

[NumberOneSon]

Uh, sorry, but the French Quarter is practically under water and the water is still rising.

Not from what I've read, especially last night when I wrote my post. The French Quarter is built on the heighest elevation of the city, so it would not be "practically underwater". It's one place that was spared flooding.

Yeah, the French Quarter WAS spared the wind and rain (somewhat) of Katrina, but flooding is HORRIBLE right now. People are now having to find ANY MEANS to get out.

Antoinette, eddy proposed the idea that God doesn't appreciate the iniquities of Mardi Gras, and thus the hurricane may have been a response to that. I posted what I did because the place where Mardi Gras is centered (the French Quarter) was spared the worst of Katrina's fury, and I had read a news story about people on Bourbon Street heading off to a bar to celebrate the French Quarter's survival.

I know that New Orleans is a huge place for sin, but what about Las Vegas?? The Red Light District in Amsterdam?? I don't know if God is planning to ruin that city or not, but why don't we let God decide? Predicting isn't something we are supposed to do, right??

Exactly, Antoinette, I agree - which is why I and others here don't necessarily see a large hurricane during hurricane season in an area where hurricanes are prevelant as a sign of God's judgment.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[frater]

Not from what I've read, especially last night when I wrote my post. The French Quarter is built on heighest elevation of the city, so it would not be "practically underwater". It's one place that was spared flooding.



Antoinette, eddy proposed the idea that God doesn't appreciate the iniquities of Mardi Gras, and thus the hurricane may have been a response to that. I posted what I did because the place where Mardi Gras is centered (the French Quarter) was spared the worst of Katrina's fury, and I had read a news story about people on Bourbon Street heading off to a bar to celebrate the French Quarter's survival.



Exactly, Antoinette, I agree - which is why I and others here don't necessarily see a large hurricane during hurricane season in an area where hurricanes are prevelant as a sign of God's judgment.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

I'm going to break this down for you.

--The oil refineries are demolished in New Orleans. They are dumping natural gas and oil as we speak.

--Ever trash dump in the city is now flooded with water.

--Every graveyard is flooded

--80% of the town now stands in over 3 feet of lake and ocean water.

--By tomarrow flies, ants, snakes and other creatures will be nicely in place throughout the city.

--There is no electricity because all the power plants are either blown apart or flooded.

--There is no possibility of pumping the water out of the city because there is no power.

--The city now stands to become one of the most horrendous sanitation disasters anyone has ever seen.

In short, New Orleans is finished. It lies in utter ruins. What is not destroyed by water will be destroyed by gas fumes. What is not destroyed by gas fumes will be destroyed by fire. What is not destroyed by fire will be destroyed by disease.

There is no fresh water.

There is no sanitary food.

There is no way to cook--no power.

And this is just in New Orleans.

Wake up.

 

[NumberOneSon]

whatever acts, ive seen your other posts its no use arguing with you about this, i posted this for others who shared my views. you dont agree and thats ok but by posting these charts, it makes little difference.

Well, it should make a difference since you're the one that asked me "how many of those were huge class 5 ones". I then gave you the information.

you choose to focus on one aspect being hurricanes when it is everything, things that you could not possibly create statistics for.

I focused on the hurricanes because of the title subject of this thread (Hurricane Katrina), and because of the points brought up by eddy (judgment in part because of Mardi Gras). And if, as you said, you've seen my other posts you would know that I don't just rest on one aspect (like hurricanes), but I deal with many various geological and socialogical subjects surrounding popular End Times beliefs; from volcanoes, to tsunamis, to morality, and so on. This thread just happens to focus on Hurrican Katrina, and so it is my focus.
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btw last your chart shows in 1990-1999 we were heading back into the red zone, id like to see how much further its gone from 1999-2005+

Sure. Here's one that extends all the way up to 2004. The National Hurricane Center (the source of the chart) says that the number of major hurricanes hitting the US mainland have been on the decrease over the past 40 years. Hopefully this chart won't be dismissed as the others have;

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[NumberOneSon]

You can be certain that the Storm had significance because they Bible tells you that it has significance.

Where in the Bible does it tell me that?

Had there been anything worth saving in New Orleans and the surrounding areas, then the events never would have occured.

People are worth saving, Frater, and some have died in that flood. Christians and non-Christians alike.

You can mark that down in your grounded research. When you play by naturalist empirical science, make certain that your factor in Omnipotence.

Frater, all I did was post known statistics from past US hurricanes. And yes, I do factor God into my conclusions. After all, He is the one who created this world and created the hurricane seasons in the Caribbean that have affected the Southeast American coastline for thousands of years.

And welcome to the forum, by the way.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[NumberOneSon]

I'm going to break this down for you.

--The oil refineries are demolished in New Orleans. They are dumping natural gas and oil as we speak.

--Ever trash dump in the city is now flooded with water.

--Every graveyard is flooded

--80% of the town now stands in over 3 feet of lake and ocean water.

--By tomarrow flies, ants, snakes and other creatures will be nicely in place throughout the city.

--There is no electricity because all the power plants are either blown apart or flooded.

--There is no possibility of pumping the water out of the city because there is no power.

--The city now stands to become one of the most horrendous sanitation disasters anyone has ever seen.

In short, New Orleans is finished. It lies in utter ruins. What is not destroyed by water will be destroyed by gas fumes. What is not destroyed by gas fumes will be destroyed by fire. What is not destroyed by fire will be destroyed by disease.

There is no fresh water.

There is no sanitary food.

There is no way to cook--no power.

And this is just in New Orleans.

Wake up.

Frater, my post to eddy last night dealt with a very particular part of New Orleans, and a very specific issue, Mardis Gras. I know the flood was very destructive to large areas of Louisiana and Mississippi, but my conversation with eddy didn't have anything to do with that. Did you not read the part where people in the French Quarter went out to celebrate in the Bourbon Street pubs last night?

In short, New Orleans is finished. It lies in utter ruins. What is not destroyed by water will be destroyed by gas fumes. What is not destroyed by gas fumes will be destroyed by fire. What is not destroyed by fire will be destroyed by disease.

New Orleans "finished"? Not by a long shot. Everything that has been destroyed will be rebuilt. Cities were rebuilt when Hurricane Andrews hit 13 years ago, and it will happen now with Katrina.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[Big Mouth Nana]

Here we go. Now the looters are shooting each other over merchandise, and pulling people out of cars at gun point. Where are they going to go, as all roads are closed? The Guard is being called in to handle the problem. This is going to be the most unprecidented event that we have ever seen in this nation. I believe that it already is. They need to get all of those people out of this destroyed city as soon as possible!!!