Human suffering in modern time ...

Ursus1985 · May 5, 2019

Hello, I don`t know quite where to start but I`m not thriving with being in my own country, I`ve been out of country some months but everytime they sense you`re a little smarter so they understand you`re not from that very specific place, so after a while i was sort of forced to return to my own country again, but everyday I`m suffering because of boredom and not like people around me, I`m thinking a little about moving to Columbia perhaps or some other fun country but I`m worried the same thing will happen again and I`m forced back again, I really don`t see any solution for this, I don`t believe in any god but I don`t deny them ether, do I just have to endure a sad fate until I die?

crossnote · May 5, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
Hello, I don`t know quite where to start but I`m not thriving with being in my own country, I`ve been out of country some months but everytime they sense you`re a little smarter so they understand you`re not from that very specific place, so after a while i was sort of forced to return to my own country again, but everyday I`m suffering because of boredom and not like people around me, I`m thinking a little about moving to Columbia perhaps or some other fun country but I`m worried the same thing will happen again and I`m forced back again, I really don`t see any solution for this, I don`t believe in any god but I don`t deny them ether, do I just have to endure a sad fate until I die?

This reminds me of Jesus saying to the woman at the well...

Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (Joh 4:13-14)

The water of this world will never ultimately satisfy.

Ursus1985 · May 5, 2019

crossnote said:
This reminds me of Jesus saying to the woman at the well...

Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again: But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (Joh 4:13-14)

The water of this world will never ultimately satisfy.

It`s not that easy for me to believe in something since I`m born normal, it`s like having a hobby and being normal, my mind can`t bend like that

crossnote · May 5, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
It`s not that easy for me to believe in something since I`m born normal, it`s like having a hobby and being normal, my mind can`t bend like that

That's why you need to be 'born again'. Read the chapter before. Read John chapter 3.

devin553344 · May 5, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
Hello, I don`t know quite where to start but I`m not thriving with being in my own country, I`ve been out of country some months but everytime they sense you`re a little smarter so they understand you`re not from that very specific place, so after a while i was sort of forced to return to my own country again, but everyday I`m suffering because of boredom and not like people around me, I`m thinking a little about moving to Columbia perhaps or some other fun country but I`m worried the same thing will happen again and I`m forced back again, I really don`t see any solution for this, I don`t believe in any god but I don`t deny them ether, do I just have to endure a sad fate until I die?

Be careful about moving, it can take a toll on your psyche after a while. I moved around a bit when I was younger and it was not easy. If you have family in your own country I would stick with them. There's usually nothing like family when you travel away.

Lost4words · May 5, 2019

You could move a 100 times and still not be happy.

You are here on a Christian forum. You were guided here.

Maybe God is directing you. Open up your mind to God. Seek some good literature. Pray.

You cant keep running away from the truth.

Sanoy · May 5, 2019

Why not pop into a church for a few weeks Ursus? Hang out after, or check out the sunday school and get to know some Christians.

Presbyterian Continuist · May 5, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
Hello, I don`t know quite where to start but I`m not thriving with being in my own country, I`ve been out of country some months but everytime they sense you`re a little smarter so they understand you`re not from that very specific place, so after a while i was sort of forced to return to my own country again, but everyday I`m suffering because of boredom and not like people around me, I`m thinking a little about moving to Columbia perhaps or some other fun country but I`m worried the same thing will happen again and I`m forced back again, I really don`t see any solution for this, I don`t believe in any god but I don`t deny them ether, do I just have to endure a sad fate until I die?

I'm interested in knowing why you are an atheist. It seems that you have said two exact opposites when you said you don't believe in any gods, but don't deny them either. "Don't believe" means "deny" in my view, which means that you could be saying that you deny any gods but don't deny them.

Was there at one point where you believed in God? If so, what made you change your mind?

Of the Kingdom · May 5, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
I don`t believe in any god but I don`t deny them ether, do I just have to endure a sad fate until I die?

No, I don't think it's inevitable that you'll be "stuck" in the sad emotional state you're in right now. Many things could happen to change your mind and give you a new purpose in life. Since you are posting in a Christian forum, you can probably find many examples here of people whose life was changed in a dramatic way by coming to believe in Jesus. Of course there are other things that could change your life also, but I'll stick to what I have experience with.

When you say you don't believe but don't deny, my understanding is that you have no reason to think there is a God, but you accept that there might be. That is a good starting point for exploring ideas. Most Christians would call that an agnostic position, though I understand the term atheist might still apply.

I recommend you open yourself to new ideas. If not Christianity, perhaps you'll find motivation in some scientific or other intellectual endeavor.

I will be praying for you, that you find wisdom and fulfillment.

Ursus1985 · May 6, 2019

Of the Kingdom said:
No, I don't think it's inevitable that you'll be "stuck" in the sad emotional state you're in right now. Many things could happen to change your mind and give you a new purpose in life. Since you are posting in a Christian forum, you can probably find many examples here of people whose life was changed in a dramatic way by coming to believe in Jesus. Of course there are other things that could change your life also, but I'll stick to what I have experience with.

When you say you don't believe but don't deny, my understanding is that you have no reason to think there is a God, but you accept that there might be. That is a good starting point for exploring ideas. Most Christians would call that an agnostic position, though I understand the term atheist might still apply.

I recommend you open yourself to new ideas. If not Christianity, perhaps you'll find motivation in some scientific or other intellectual endeavor.

I will be praying for you, that you find wisdom and fulfillment.

So I have to believe in something to make the suffering go away? ;(

Of the Kingdom · May 6, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
So I have to believe in something to make the suffering go away? ;(

I definitely do not know your situation well enough to say if that's true or not. I can say that for most people, the belief that there is a solution to their problem is enough to make them feel somewhat better. I believe my life has value, that I can be a blessing to others, and that I am part of a movement which will ultimately be successful. These kinds of belief do tend to make temporary problems seem less daunting.

Tom 1 · May 6, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
Hello, I don`t know quite where to start but I`m not thriving with being in my own country, I`ve been out of country some months but everytime they sense you`re a little smarter so they understand you`re not from that very specific place, so after a while i was sort of forced to return to my own country again, but everyday I`m suffering because of boredom and not like people around me, I`m thinking a little about moving to Columbia perhaps or some other fun country but I`m worried the same thing will happen again and I`m forced back again, I really don`t see any solution for this, I don`t believe in any god but I don`t deny them ether, do I just have to endure a sad fate until I die?

A first step would be figuring out why you feel that way. The way we feel is rarely the direct result of our circumstances.

Sketcher · May 6, 2019

Sounds like you have something inside you which is just keeping you from being happy.

Christianity should not be construed as a cure for that in this life. It is forgiveness of sins, it is putting God before yourself, it is doing the good works that God has set before you to do. And it may mean things get harder for you, because doing what is right is not the same as doing what is easy. It is for you, as it is for everybody. But know what to expect from it.

Ursus1985 · May 7, 2019

Tom Farebrother said:
A first step would be figuring out why you feel that way. The way we feel is rarely the direct result of our circumstances.

Why would someone be unhappy without bad enviroment?

Tom 1 · May 7, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
Why would someone be unhappy without bad enviroment?

Good question, one lots of people are still trying to answer lol. Plenty of highly successful, capable people who have struggles with profound depression. It's more complicated that you might think.

Ursus1985 · May 7, 2019

Tom Farebrother said:
Good question, one lots of people are still trying to answer lol. Plenty of highly successful, capable people who have struggles with profound depression. It's more complicated that you might think.

I`m a very skilled liar, I`ve lied all of my life to all sorts of people

Tom 1 · May 7, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
I`m a very skilled liar, I`ve lied all of my life to all sorts of people

Well I think that would probably serve as a barrier to deeper relationships, and without at least some relationships of depth we don't function very well.

Ursus1985 · May 7, 2019

Tom Farebrother said:
Well I think that would probably serve as a barrier to deeper relationships, and without at least some relationships of depth we don't function very well.

I tried the pan flute recently

Tom 1 · May 7, 2019

Ursus1985 said:
I tried the pan flute recently

Music is good for lifting your mood, right?

Ursus1985 · May 7, 2019

Tom Farebrother said:
Music is good for lifting your mood, right?

Yes, very but I can`t sing all day you know

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