OK, so you admit the bible is the source. Now, in the bible, it tells of the approx times involved. That means reproduction had to occur fast.
I don't assume it's the source of relevant knowledge, but I'll admit it's the prime source of the events that happened in the great flood
story.
I would look for a great disturbance. So big that continents moved, mountains were built, etc etc. That would beat the heck out of any expected uniform flood evidence.
And there is no such disturbance indicated in the evidence found for the time that the bible says the flood happened (roughly 2500BCE).
You need to prove the dates. You can't. They are meaningless until you can.
Radiometric dating will give you a pretty good idea as to whether a layer is 4500 years old or 65 million years old.
Before you play the "you can't prove fundamental forces were always the same" card again, keep in mind that science measures the physical. Science will not assume the fundamental forces have ever been different if there's never been any physical indication that they ever have. So stop thinking it before going forward.
Balderdash. If there was a great change and massive disturbances that flood would be after the fact. A simple case of wrong dates, and not knowing what to look for.
Are you implying that the flood was caused by some massive geological reformation? Neither the bible nor science indicate this. The bible says it rained and flooded, science and reason tells us that there was no global flood all together.
Basing my assertions on the known and observable evidence is not "assumption". Reading a book and believing what it says over anything else you're shown afterward that may contradict it
is.
Not if kinds were differently adapted after the flood. But in places, we do notice a big change, such as near the KT.
According to the bible, there were no "kinds" that survived the flood. Consider there are are eight known living species of bear. Were there 16 bears on the ark or were there only 2? If there were 2, then you're saying they didn't adapt, but actually speciate. If there were 8, then you'd have to assume there was two of every breathing species on the ark - which makes the story an even greater mathematical impossibility given the dimensions of the ark vs the volume of it's passengers.
The KT boundary is dated to be 65 million years old - not 10,000 years old, not 7600 years old and definitely not 4500 years old (all various flood-time estimates given by creationists I've debated with). The only assertions that pass this dating off as "balderdash" come from creationists, typically because they either don't understand or intentionally ignore the reliability of this method.
Again - there is no reason to assume time or fundamental (and physical) forces were different back then if there is no physical evidence to indicate that they ever were. Science measures the physical and observable.
Explain? [A resetting of culture uniform to the beliefs of Noah's family for at least a generation or two]
The most popular assertion by creationists is that the flood occurred around 2500BCE. At this time, the Egyptians still worshiped Ra, Chinese civilization starts with their own religion and story of creation, Mesoamericans and Mesopotamians also had their respective cultures and religions. All this is supposed to stem from Noah's family? They just witnessed the wrathful act of God, drowning all the worlds sinners, and mankind jumps off the ark praying to Ra, the sun, and eventually Zeus?
Repeating something doesn't make it true. Showing evidence does, however. Do you really want me to go back to "I showed you mine, now show me yours?"
Right. And the fact that the bible is the
prime source for information on the flood means that the evidence found isn't. This is because the
prime source of information against a global flood is in the dirt, pottery, tombs, statues, architecture, and bones found scattered all over the earth.
I've clearly shown otherwise.
No. People have not looked anywhere near the right time or place for the flood.
Which would be when and where, exactly? I bet they have.
The Black Sea Deluge is the closest thing there is in both time and location.
-- go figure.
