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Split Rock

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You almost seem to think that science ought to be able to have some proof for things out of it's depth. You need to understand that science doesn't cover many things, nor can it.

Nor does scripture. Especially when it is perverted by people like you into saying what it doesn't. BTW, have you seen this thread yet? http://www.christianforums.com/t7518437/#post56258792
I am curious as to what you think about it......
 
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It doesn't ring true. I have no belief some different state exists between New York, and Paris.
Aw -- c'mon, bro.

Don't you think it was funny, though?

;)
 
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There are some places science can't fly us. Really.

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I recently had an incident where me and a friend were at the same event together and, a few weeks later when we were trying to recall the events, we couldn't agree on what had actually happened. We were both there, we saw the same stuff, but, within a few weeks, our memories had diverged enough for us to get confused about what actually happened. I'm sure this has happened to you at times too.
The ancients may has puffed the magic dragon too, is that your point?

They think he will be like Moses. (You clearly didn't click on the link).
So? I'll wait till he parts the sea.

So you acknowledge that people can have different interpretations of the Bible and some of these interpretations could be "strange". Ever wonder if your interpretation is one of th INsane ones as opposed to the sane ones?
Ever consider Jesus spoke of some basic things like creation time, and the flood?

So any evidence for the moon formation will never be considered evidence for you. That's the logical flaw here: you demand evidence for something that happened in the past while pre-supposing that any evidence from the past will be invalid. Greeeeaaat.

You have no evidence. It is all present state modeling. As desperate as some might be to create the moon with such pixie dust, they are grasping at physical only straws.


I can look at the same state past conclusion with an unbiased eye but if I do that, then every piece of evidence ever gathered about the past is thrown out the window and I'm left with....nothing. So why would I base a conclusion on nothing?

You tell me!?

Care to provide some scriptural quotes?

Sure...

http://splitmerge.webs.com/split.pdf

Couldn't God just make them happen regardless of the physical state of the universe? And why is the Biblical account literal again?
That makes no sense. Why make someone live a thousand years when it is not the natural lifespan of the day? Why send ferries for trillions of water droplets falling on earth in the flood, to make sure killing heat was not produced?? Etc..



Do you have a methodology of dating something without the use of radiometric dating? How do you date things? If its the Bible then I hope you realize that the first manuscripts discovered of Genesis were dated using radiometric dating to determine that they were written during the exilic age in Babylonia.

I have a dating method that is many times more accurate than same state based methods. I look to God's word as the thing to align to. Also, stick to what is known.



No evidence I give will satisfy you. You also have no evidence that states were different other than the Bible.

History. The long life spans of Sumer, and spirit among men recorded.
This is the whole "seeing an apple as a banana" thing. You are disregarding ALL other evidence and clinging to ONE source. (A source that is hotly contested and debated not even a source that is widely accepted).
Nonsense. There is no evidence to disregard for a same state past. All that must be disregarded is the godless belief based foundational premise for the claims.


Just because I have a cross on my profile does not in any way mean I agree with you.

You are right, anyone could put one up.
 
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Now that is what I call hitting the nail on the head. The defense of a literal genesis has evolved over time, and I think that dad may have landed on the perfect argument. It disallows ANY evidence of ANY kind except his "interpretation" of genesis.

Of course, disregarding all evidence except that which is in your own mind is pretty useless if you are seeking truth, and some might say it is delusional.
Disregarding imaginary planet smash up derbies that poofed the moon into being is not what is delusional. Pretending such events are science is.
 
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Dad uses one word to describe himself: professional. That's why he doesn't have any fun here.
I don't recall using that word. But I do have a sense of humor. I don't laugh just to be polite though.
 
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Disregarding imaginary planet smash up derbies that poofed the moon into being is not what is delusional. Pretending such events are science is.

Ignoring the fact that this will make no difference, I have to ask, for the sake of future generations, you do know, don't you, that making stuff up isn't actually what scientists do?
 
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I don't recall using that word. But I do have a sense of humor. I don't laugh just to be polite though.

It's from Arrested Development.

Compared to AV, you have an absent sense of humor. At least AV is willing to dip into his soul and bring out some wit when the moment strikes him. You're all business.
 
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It doesn't ring true. I have no belief some different state exists between New York, and Paris.

Why not dad... can you prove that there is no different state between New York and Paris??? Can you??? Nope... didn't think so! You just wallow in your in the box fish bowl and pretend you know more than you do! Well, that's anti-God fantasy, and I don't accept it! Amazing!
 
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