Human life

[theFijian]

I did not say they should. I said that if they do, there is no loss to them.

Yes you did.

If you do not believe in God, then kill yourself anytime. It does not make a bit difference.

You still haven't explained why an atheist should kill themselves.

 

[Deathfire]

Ok so God puts us on this Earth for a specific reason, a 'job'. This could be anything whatsoever correct? Obivously if he has the ability to create life, he'd have the ability to save all of ours from the harms of the world. But he wants us to learn, and so gives people jobs to fufill. One Q here, do we always fufill this job? As in surely there are two extremes of doing it (ie. completing the job to the maximum or the negative effect [for example, and yes its crude but just for an example k?, he wanted you to walk around a carrot, but the negative of it would be to walk right through it, trampling it] and then other such ways, like meeting it half way [slightly steeping on the carrot] *ok i admit it was a bad example but meh*) so does he give us a choice of set endings, and we find our own way to one of them? Or do we always complete EXACTLY what he set for us to 'walk around the carrot'?

 

[juvenissun]

Yes you did.


You still haven't explained why an atheist should kill themselves.

I was answering a question.

Q: ... or I just kill myself?
A: If .... Then do it, because ...

I did not say you "should".

 

[juvenissun]

Ok so God puts us on this Earth for a specific reason, a 'job'. This could be anything whatsoever correct? Obivously if he has the ability to create life, he'd have the ability to save all of ours from the harms of the world. But he wants us to learn, and so gives people jobs to fufill. One Q here, do we always fufill this job? As in surely there are two extremes of doing it (ie. completing the job to the maximum or the negative effect [for example, and yes its crude but just for an example k?, he wanted you to walk around a carrot, but the negative of it would be to walk right through it, trampling it] and then other such ways, like meeting it half way [slightly steeping on the carrot] *ok i admit it was a bad example but meh*) so does he give us a choice of set endings, and we find our own way to one of them? Or do we always complete EXACTLY what he set for us to 'walk around the carrot'?

God gives His believers some lessons in a form of "job". But we are human, not robot. So some of us do a better job than others. Some would even fail the job.

But do not forget the purpose of doing the job on earth is to learn how to work (serve) in Heaven. Just like the purpose of taking courses in school is to learn how to work in society. In God's course (the assigned job), one who failed the job may even learn more than one who got the job done.

So, if you accept the job God gives to you, whether you do the job well or badly, success or failure, you "learned" in all cases. And the consequence is always: Good.

The Bible explained this issue very clearly and thoroughly in the Gospel Books (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). If interested, I can show you a few verses.

 

[theFijian]

I did not say you "should".

If you do not believe in God, then kill yourself anytime. It does not make a bit difference.

Why would you direct people to kill themselves if they don't believe in God?

 

[Assyrian]

Hyperbole?
Nah, can't be. Juv is a literalist.

 

[Greg1234]

Why would you direct people to kill themselves if they don't believe in God?

Read in context.

 

[theFijian]

Read in context.

I did, I even put his later quote in context of his earlier quote.

 

[Greg1234]

I did, I even put his later quote in context of his earlier quote.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7498996-2/#post55721018

 

[juvenissun]

Why would you direct people to kill themselves if they don't believe in God?

This is my last reply to your silly question.
I did not direct people to do that. I simply answer question.

 

[Deathfire]

yes lesson learnt, after all the greatest knowledge comes from failure. btw how old am i? dont look at my profile and what not, just by what ive said, give me ur estimate

 

[juvenissun]

yes lesson learnt, after all the greatest knowledge comes from failure. btw how old am i? dont look at my profile and what not, just by what ive said, give me ur estimate

I guess people older than 40 won't write "your" like that. And I guess you are older than 15.

 

[theFijian]

This is my last reply to your silly question.
I did not direct people to do that. I simply answer question.

And you simply and incorrectly equivocate atheism with nihilism, they are not the same.

 

[juvenissun]

And you simply and incorrectly equivocate atheism with nihilism, they are not the same.

I said that they are not.

 

[solarwave]

In reply to the question of extending human life the answer could be that it loves your neighbour as yourself. People love life and don't want to die, so extending life expresses love and so is good. The whole of the law is summed up in love.

 

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