Human Evolution

[Estrid]

And the evidence from His creation shows that evolution was how humans came to be.

And the evidence that " He" created something?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And the evidence that " He" created something?

Don't start this. Don't.

People believe that God created the world, and everything in it. Accept that fact and move on.

 

[Dome558]

And the evidence from His creation shows that evolution was how humans came to be.

From dust.

 

[Dome558]

Himself?

No idea...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

From dust.

I mean... space dust, if you go with the available evidence from His creation. But evolution was certainly used in later years.

 

[Dome558]

I mean... space dust, if you go with the available evidence from His creation. But evolution was certainly used in later years.

No....it says from the dust of the ground....and it also say created everything in 6 days

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No....it says from the dust of the ground....and it also say created everything in 6 days

No, the Bible says that. God's actual creation, the physical creation of the world and the universe, say otherwise.

 

[Mark Quayle]

How can an animal we would class as an ape walk out of the forest and become human? It’s a long story.

It appears that, in The Great Rift Valley in Africa, a unique stretch of grasslands opened up as the continents moved. Certain apes ventured out of the woods, perhaps searching for food. They found a different world, one in which they could survive using the high intelligence inherent in all apes. Problem solving was so important out here, brains began to evolve for higher intelligence.

Likewise, out in the plain, there was an advantage to standing upright. One could travel more efficiently, look out over the tall grass to see predators, and use one’s hands for many tasks. The combination of increased intelligence with increased availability of the hands worked out quite well in this new environment, leading to strong evolution of these traits.

But intelligence and dexterity alone would have left our ancestors helpless in the vast grassland. They found that, like us, they needed each other. It’s true. We all need somebody to lean on. So, our ancestors used their new brainpower for more than just individual problem solving. They used their brains to communicate with other humans. This turned out to be quite difficult. Understanding other humans is hard. If you want to communicate effectively with me, you need a big brain.

With effective communication, we learn from each other. You learn things from me. I learn things from you. Together, the combined knowledge can lead to new ideas. The end result can be far greater than simply adding two experiences. And so, there is a huge advantage to good communication. This requires a lot of brainpower.

As human cooperation and brainpower became ever more important, brains became larger, and that can be a big problem for the mothers. There is only so much head that can squeeze down the birth canal. Unfortunately, many hominid females must have died in childbirth–may they rest in peace–as evolution drove brain sizes larger.

But, once again evolution found a solution. If the skull can wait to finish its growth until after birth, then it is easier to give birth to a child who will have a large adult brain. For the mothers, this was good news. They could give birth to babies that then grew up with big brains capable of better supporting the mother, her other offspring, and her grandchildren. This solution was a winner.

But there was a big side effect to all this. Hominid babies are quite helpless while their brain grows. They go through a prolonged childhood before emerging as super-intelligent hominid adults. Other animal babies can walk and begin caring for themselves soon after birth. Not so with humans or our close ancestors. Nevertheless, when intelligence is a primary necessity for survival, the sacrifice can be worth it. The mother devotes herself to her helpless baby, yes, but oh what a wonder this produces.

How can a mother afford to spend all this effort raising children? It takes a village. That’s right. Child raising requires a team: mothers, fathers, grandparents, siblings, cousins, neighbors, anybody. And that is the beauty of the intelligence and social communication that had evolved. It allowed these humans to develop as a team, caring for each other and for the young. That led to longer childhoods; to larger brains; to more intelligence; to better communication and cooperation; and back around to longer childhoods and still larger brains. It was an endless upwards spiral.

This led to all the wonderful adaptions of humans: better tools to hunt and get the needed protein to feed these demanding brains; fires to scare away predators; fires to cook meals; loss of hair, which allowed more persistent hunting without overheating; clothing and blankets to stay warm without all that hair; language; structured social interaction; and yes, partying into the wee hours of the morning while sitting around the campfire. Keep that up for hundreds of thousands of years, and before long we see a big change.

None of that requires direct intervention of God. It is simply the working of nature, driving one evolutionary line in a unique direction after a number of prior adaptions had given that genus a unique survival strategy. No miracle was required.

Excerpted from my website: Is There a God? - The Mind Set Free

Where did nature come from?

 

[Dome558]

No, the Bible says that. God's actual creation, the physical creation of the world and the universe, say otherwise.

My good sir I believe the problem is perhaps you believe in a different god than the god of the bible....or perhaps none at all?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

My good sir I believe the problem is perhaps you believe in a different god than the god of the bible....or perhaps none at all?

Oh I believe in God, the father of Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. But I do not believe in a God that would be so limited to just what the Bible says, when His own creation tells a VASTLY different story altogether.

 

[Estrid]

No....it says from the dust of the ground....and it also say created everything in 6 days

So I guess it's wrong

 

[Dome558]

So I guess it's wrong

according to whom............?

 

[Dome558]

Oh I believe in God, the father of Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. But I do not believe in a God that would be so limited to just what the Bible says, when His own creation tells a VASTLY different story altogether.

 

[Dome558]

Oh I believe in God, the father of Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. But I do not believe in a God that would be so limited to just what the Bible says, when His own creation tells a VASTLY different story altogether.

I suppose you believe in the 1th commend too....?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I suppose you believe in the 1th commend too....?

"Thou shalt have no other Gods but I." (transcribe that into whichever version of English you want)

I think you might have a reading comprehension. Go back and read what I wrote.

 

[Estrid]

according to whom............?

Make that "what". .
Every single known relevant fact built right into
the earth, and beyond.
Didnt you know?

 

[AV1611VET]

No, the Bible says that. God's actual creation, the physical creation of the world and the universe, say otherwise.

Perhaps your hearing is myopic.

Luke 19:37 And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, the whole multitude of the disciples began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;
38 Saying, Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.
39 And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.
40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

What do you hear, when geology speaks to you?

 

[AV1611VET]

Oh I believe in God, the father of Jesus Christ as described in the Bible. But I do not believe in a God that would be so limited to just what the Bible says, when His own creation tells a VASTLY different story altogether.

Two men go out and make a snowman.

1. The one speaks to the snow and immediately a snowman.

2. The other takes two hours to build a snowman.

Of the two, which one showed a limited ability?

 

[AV1611VET]

according to whom............?

The dean.

 

[Larniavc]

So how can a thing "find a solution"?

It's a figure of speech. It's like when one says that cats are good at jumping because of their mechanical design. No one actually believes it literally means a cat is a designed mechanism: that would be to not understand metaphor and similes.