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Catherineanne · May 28, 2006

peaceinislam said:
U should know that there isnt a single country in the world run according to Islamic/sharia law.

Thank God for that.

The ones who approximate to it are bad enough. Just imagine if they got it completely spot on.

God preserve the world from sharia law.

peaceinislam · May 31, 2006

U should know that there isnt a single country in the world run according to Islamic/sharia law.

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Thank God for that.

The ones who approximate to it are bad enough. Just imagine if they got it completely spot on.

God preserve the world from sharia law.

this is really rude. maybe i should remind u that the nazis were all church-going protestants.

MercuryAndy · May 31, 2006

hahaha. Im sorry i cant do holocost on that day i am going to church.. Nazism is no longer a political affiliation but infact a religion with its own belifs and customs. All terrorists are muslems.

peaceinislam · May 31, 2006

nazis were church-going protestants.

All terrorists are muslems.

this is far from the truth.

Christian Identity movement
Ku Klux Klan (A racist Protestant Christian organization founded during the Reconstruction period in the former Confederate States of America)
[*]Lord's Resistance Army (1987-present) (Uganda)
[*]Nagaland Rebels (1948-present) (Nagaland), including:
[*]God's Army (a rebel faction of the Karen ethnic minority in Burma)
[*]17 November in Greece,
[*]RAF and Neo-Nazis in Germany,
[*]ETA in Spain, Red Brigades in Italy

[*]Freedomites (1902-present) Active in Canada, notable for their longevity
[*]Nagaland Rebels (1947-present) Active in predominantly Christian state in Hindu majority India. Involved in several bombings in 2004. Goal: Independence from India after annexing parts of neighboring Indian states and Burma if it has Christian majority.
[*]National Liberation Front of Tripura (1989-present) A group that seeks the independence of Tripura from India to create a Christian Tripura.

not to mension what cromwell did to the irish, let alone the catholics, & all the wars & bloody revolutions in britain, america, france, mexico etc.

MercuryAndy · May 31, 2006

Are you trying to say the royal air force was a terrorist group?

Here is the thing. The day you prove all nazis were christians is the day i will prove that islam is a religion created by terrorists who want justification to kill people.

Im realy sure hitler prayed to god for guidance on whether to commit genocide. Hitler never claimed any affliation to christianity . As far as i am aware the closest nazis came to christianity was the words "got mit us" which were on their belts.

Hitler didnt claim to kill in the name of christianity unlike many muslems who claim to kill in the name of islam.

nation of islam

Britain never had a revolution. It was thought shortly after the french but never came.

peaceinislam · May 31, 2006

Here is the thing. The day you prove all nazis were christians is the day i will prove that islam is a religion created by terrorists who want justification to kill people.

whats your point? u said all terrorists are muslims. which is a ridiculous statement. now u say u cant prove it? i dont get u.

Hitler didnt claim to kill in the name of christianity unlike many muslems who claim to kill in the name of islam.

i didnt say he did. i said nazis were church-going protestants. the "many muslims" u allude to are a fraction of a 1.5 billion people.

Britain never had a revolution. It was thought shortly after the french but never came.

there was a lot of fighting to achieve a type of parliamentary government

Asherz · May 31, 2006

peaceinislam said:
whats your point? u said all terrorists are muslims. which is a ridiculous statement. now u say u cant prove it? i dont get u.

He said he cannot prove it just as you cannot prove that all Nazis were Protestant Christians.

He also had a good point. Islamic terrorist kill in the name of Islam and Allah. Nazis did not kill in the name of Christianity. You really can't make an accurate comparison between the two.

Exegete12 · Jun 2, 2006

Asherz said:
He said he cannot prove it just as you cannot prove that all Nazis were Protestant Christians.

He also had a good point. Islamic terrorist kill in the name of Islam and Allah. Nazis did not kill in the name of Christianity. You really can't make an accurate comparison between the two.

BUT the German Christians were deceived. Just like many American Christians have been deceived with the illegal invasion of Iraq.

Also many Christians will be deceived in the latter days, even if possible the elect. A great apostacy will take place.

But we can rest assured because we know that them who are overcomers He will allow to sit with Him in heaven.

Catherineanne · Jun 2, 2006

peaceinislam said:
this is really rude. maybe i should remind u that the nazis were all church-going protestants.

You can 'remind' me if you like, but that will not make it true.

Nazism founded a faith of its own, based on some backformed Germanic myths, a bit of chivalric wishful thinking, a lot of eliltism, and a bit of Christian derived stuff thrown in, but it can by no stretch of the imagination be regarded as 'church going protestantism'. Same with Stalinism. If you have an autocratic dictator, then he is hardly going to tell anyone to worship God, because he wants all the worship for himself. Ergo, dictatorships are incompatible with church going anything at all.

Nice try at rewriting history, though. You really have to admire anyone with such a capacity for ignoring reality, evidence and attested historicity, and in the face of it all, still constructing the world they wish were there, rather than seeing the one that is.

Catherineanne · Jun 2, 2006

peaceinislam said:
whats your point? u said all terrorists are muslims. which is a ridiculous statement. now u say u cant prove it? i dont get u.

I would suggest you find out what 'irony' is.

yaqovzadeek · Jun 2, 2006

Catherineanne said:
You can 'remind' me if you like, but that will not make it true.

Nice try at rewriting history, though.

Hi check this out, the whole thread has a lot of good info about the issue.
http://www.christianforums.com/t2764406-was-hilter-a-christian-or-not.html&page=2
Actually Hitler and his clan were as Christian as many born agains on here.Except that because his acts of violence and atrocity the Christians want to dissociate themselves completely with Him and his cronies. Had hitler not domne what he did I am sure all christians who have praised him as a great christain.I read that his cronies and him went to church regularly and after church they came bame back and tortured Jews.so there you go.
peace
Yaqovzadeek
Aka James the Just

yasser · Jun 2, 2006

BibleMadeMeDoIt said:
Definition of genocide.

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is for example what christiand did to muslims in bosnia where they ruthlessly killed thousand of men, women and children in the name of christ..
Another example is when hitler and his protestant christians killed millions of jews.

yasser · Jun 2, 2006

Asherz said:
He said he cannot prove it just as you cannot prove that all Nazis were Protestant Christians.

He also had a good point. Islamic terrorist kill in the name of Islam and Allah. Nazis did not kill in the name of Christianity. You really can't make an accurate comparison between the two.

did you see the terrorist when they are doing the killing and you hear them saying in the name of allah..whom are you kidding here.....I can go today and say on the tv i am going to kill some people in the name of christ..Are you going to believe me..you believe what you want to hear,..this is your problem..you want to believe islam kills, you will go and listen to what you want to prove to yourself..this is the problem.

yasser · Jun 2, 2006

Catherineanne said:
I find your constant harping on the early sexuality of Western girls rather disturbing, to be honest. I thought you were a good Moslem now?

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this is the truth honey..why you are denying it..its the freedom girls want..girls gone wild...Do you know the average sex parteners a female and a male have here in usa before getting married..do you want me to surprise you with the number..if you really want to know i will post the governemental link for this statistics..So please do not throw stones on people when your own house is made of glass..may god forgive us all for not worshipping him in the proper way..

Army of Juan · Jun 2, 2006

yasser said:
did you see the terrorist when they are doing the killing and you hear them saying in the name of allah..whom are you kidding here.....I can go today and say on the tv i am going to kill some people in the name of christ..Are you going to believe me..you believe what you want to hear,..this is your problem..you want to believe islam kills, you will go and listen to what you want to prove to yourself..this is the problem.

Why do you always hear a "Allah Akbar" right before something bad happens?
http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/156.html

sumayyah5 · Jun 2, 2006

Army of Juan said:
Why do you always hear a "Allah Akbar" right before something bad happens?
http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/156.html

You know what i do not understand why are muslims looked at sooo bad when we fight against those who are doing wrong to us.

If a American Soldier goes to Iraq fight in the name of America and dies he is a hero but when our muslim brothers and sisters fight against the people who are INVADING THIER land they are terroroists.

LOOK HOW THIS TOPIC GOT DIVERTED... you all say we should all hug man and woman yea so why was it they Mary mother of Jesus when Garbriel came to her to tel her she would be boreing a child she was very defensive and before he told her the message she was telling him to move i am not a chaste woman i do not speek with men.

And you say that Muslims killed in those twin towers how many fabrications have there been in the whole 9/11 acts??? hundreds but you believe what you want at the end of the day.

ALLAH AKBAR - GOD IS GREAT

yaqovzadeek · Jun 2, 2006

Army of Juan said:
Why do you always hear a "Allah Akbar" right before something bad happens?
http://gojackarmy.castpost.com/156.html

Muslims say Allahu Akbar 5 times a day at many intervals of prayer it is a word that you don't understand, so why do you associate with something bad when you don't understand it.If we take it your way when a muslim calls out Allahu akbar on the mic when he prays that means something bad is happening.
May be you should educate yourself more about Islam from genuine Muslim sources rather than make Assumptions.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka James the Just

MercuryAndy · Jun 2, 2006

Ok

yea im glad christians killed muslems in bosnia and im glad no christians at all made an attempt at trying to save them... wait a minite if i am not mistaken a un force and some sas members were involved in fighting the serbs and get this actualy trying to save muslems. I dont know i guess those people actualy trying to save people must have not bein christians as all christians hate muslems dont they?

I read once that muslems are the spawn of satin. Wait i read it so it must be true rite?

Theres a difference between killing a soldire when he is attacking you and attacking unarmed civilians using terror tactics.

If you realy want to know what i think of september 11th was that the terrorists only claimed it was them for a hero status.

The idea that five people with letter openers could hijack a plane of a few hundred people is laughable.

I have bein caught in metal detectors when i had a small peice of aluminium in my pocket (the kitchen foil)

And if they were going to hijack a plane why not pay the whole 6 american dollers to get a carbon fiber knife.

peaceful soul · Jun 2, 2006

yaqovzadeek said:
Muslims say Allahu Akbar 5 times a day at many intervals of prayer it is a word that you don't understand, so why do you associate with something bad when you don't understand it.If we take it your way when a muslim calls out Allahu akbar on the mic when he prays that means something bad is happening.
May be you should educate yourself more about Islam from genuine Muslim sources rather than make Assumptions.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka James the Just

I think the question is that the expression is said when Muslims do something like kill someone or cause harm to them. I think sometimes that Muslims only see that they are defending their religion and do not see the harm they are doing to others in the process. The association is a negative one since killing someone is not something to be greatful about. The impression left is that it is a great thing in god's eyes that I just killed someone in Allah's name. Do you understand?

I am about tired of the overused and miscontextualized expession of Muslims saying that non-Muslims should get educated or learn real Islam. This implies that everything that is mentioned is false and that everything that comes out of a Muslim's mouth is true. This seems a way to refute what is said and not giving credit that some of us actually do understand many of the things about Islam and are actually persuing understanding, even if we don't agree. There are genuine cases where we are ignorant, but don't think that we are so ignorant and you are sooo... bright.

MercuryAndy · Jun 2, 2006

see the thing about muslems is that they are stupid. And the thing about christians is that they are stupid. So the world is one big stupid thing constantly killing eachother for some stupid reason.

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