How's that Seattle 'No Cop' thing going?

[Evan Jellicoe]

It won't work anyway since the mayor seems to think all is well. Supposedly. But ya I agree, you can't just have groups of people marching into town and decide they occupy 6 blocks and not do anything about it.

Why not?
Sometimes the best response in extraordinary situations is to wait patiently until things settle down.

 

[Arc F1]

It won't work anyway since the mayor seems to think all is well. Supposedly. But ya I agree, you can't just have groups of people marching into town and decide they occupy 6 blocks and not do anything about it.

You know as well as I do that those that agree with them taking over would think differently if it was their neighborhood. I'm glad I moved to the country. I doubt I will see massive amounts of people trying to take over.

 

[Dave G.]

CBN is a really good network. I've been watching it on YouTube for a few months now.

It's my preferred news source actually.

I'm not much of a fan of the major networks.

 

[Dave G.]

You know as well as I do that those that agree with them taking over would think differently if it was their neighborhood. I'm glad I moved to the country. I doubt I will see massive amounts of people trying to take over.

I live in a town of just under 20,000. But our area is comprised of many smaller villages. We have had car parades of young protestors driving through and increasing in size, blowing horns, screaming out windows as they drive by ( I mean screaming, no particular words vocalized). They have various flags streaming, to include American. I don't believe in our current climate, they couldn't stop and blockade a section of town or one of the villages. It's very possible, just for attention if nothing else. I don't know if that will happen but really about now nothing would surprise me.

 

[gaara4158]

More like Armed individuals behind barricades
in a 6 block area checking id of people wanting in.
Demanding they can have weapons but not police.

They have no authority to do so, or to control and
be hold up in city property, or block public streets,
or bar public servants from entering.

This after more then a week of
"not so peaceful protests"

Have you seen what’s on the inside? It just looks like a music/art festival. It may be a hostile takeover, but it’s a peaceful demonstration.

 

[gaara4158]

We are going in the opposite direction. The rule of law is being overlooked for protestors. Two wrongs don't make a right.

The rule of law has been overlooked for police officers and higher officials for decades if not centuries. It’s hard to imagine correcting this without first turning the tables for a time.

 

[Dave G.]

Why not?
Sometimes the best response in extraordinary situations is to wait patiently until things settle down.

Hmmm suppose: My family has decided we are going to have a family reunion, there are 150 of us. We have tents, three outhouses, some gardening equipment, coolers. We intend to redecorate with some fine art work done with spray cans. And we decided to have this in your yard. We will be there tonight and we have no particular plans as to when or if we will leave. We have decided that you have no control over this and police are not allowed, we will barricade entry and allow in who we deem acceptable . You can board up your place of residence if you like and either join us or leave. It doesn't matter to us.

I'm sure you won't mind since you just figure we will get tired and leave eventually anyway. This really shouldn't disturb you and it will help our cause of family love. See you tonight.

 

[Desk trauma]

Hmmm suppose: My family has decided we are going to have a family reunion, there are 150 of us. We have tents, three outhouses, some gardening equipment, coolers. We intend to redecorate with some fine art work done with spray cans. And we decided to have this in your yard. We will be there tonight and we have no particular plans as to when or if we will leave. We have decided that you have no control over this and police are not allowed, we will barricade entry and allow in who we deem acceptable . You can board up your place of residence if you like and either join us or leave. It doesn't matter to us.

I'm sure you won't mind since you just figure we will get tired and leave eventually anyway. This really shouldn't disturb you and it will help our cause of family love. See you tonight.

Remind me again how many peoples residences have been taken over in this autonomous zone farce?

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

Hmmm suppose: My family has decided we are going to have a family reunion, there are 150 of us. We have tents, three outhouses, some gardening equipment, coolers. We intend to redecorate with some fine art work done with spray cans. And we decided to have this in your yard. We will be there tonight and we have no particular plans as to when or if we will leave. We have decided that you have no control over this and police are not allowed, we will barricade entry and allow in who we deem acceptable . You can board up your place of residence if you like and either join us or leave. It doesn't matter to us.

I'm sure you won't mind since you just figure we will get tired and leave eventually anyway. This really shouldn't disturb you and it will help our cause of family love. See you tonight.

Not a good analogy at all. Public property/private property; mass national movement involving hundreds of thousands/one private party involving hundreds; major political point/no political point at all.

I'm guessing that in Seattle, if cool heads prevail in the government, things will eventually calm down to a peaceful conclusion. Insisting that "The Rulebook" be followed in this case is somewhat similar to a Christian insisting on Law above Grace, and also of the stereotypical army officer who is a stickler for the rules but has no common sense. Good judgment is better than strict rule-keeping.
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[Mountainmanbob]

you can't just have groups of people marching into town and decide they occupy 6 blocks and not do anything about it.

Some think it sounds great but,
of course they don't live there.

Probably a lot of those supporters
that we see on the internet
are actually in China?
M

 

[essentialsaltes]

More like Armed individuals behind barricades
in a 6 block area checking id of people wanting in.

Is there good evidence of this happening?

 

[Dave G.]

Not a good analogy at all. Public property/private property; mass national movement involving hundreds of thousands/one private party involving hundreds; major political point/no political point at all.

I'm guessing that in Seattle, if cool heads prevail in the government, things will eventually calm down to a peaceful conclusion. Insisting that "The Rulebook" be followed in this case is somewhat similar to a Christian insisting on Law above Grace, and also of the stereotypical army officer who is a stickler for the rules but has no common sense. Good judgment is better than strict rule-keeping.
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I see, so the shoe is on another foot and so it's ok. As long as I don't involve you and yours it's fine.

See demonstrations are great, nobody thinks otherwise. But they should not occupy territory to the exclusion of others. They should not deface property public or otherwise. And I'm glad to hear that you admit this is a huge operation. Because that's exactly what it is and CHAZ is but one piece of it.

 

[ananda]

... they have been subjected to barricades set up by the protesters ...

I figured these groups and individuals were "anti-border walls" kind of people.

 

[Desk trauma]

I figured these groups and individuals were "anti-border walls" kind of people.

They’re anarchists, they are opposed to the idea of states entirely.

 

[gaara4158]

Some think it sounds great but,
of course they don't live there.

Probably a lot of those supporters
that we see on the internet
are actually in China?
M

It’s a public space. No one lived there anyway.

 

[Kentonio]

I notice the police have now admitted that the ‘anecdotal evidence’ of extortion happening was actually not actually true.

 

[Hank77]

I've been getting mine from video shot on location. You tubers and others love to video everything.

That's informative but I was addressing another poster's post, not yours.

 

[ananda]

They’re anarchists, they are opposed to the idea of states entirely.

Then why do they need a border?

 

[Desk trauma]

Then why do they need a border?

You will have to ask them how they square that circle, I am not among their number.

 

[Evan Jellicoe]

I see, so the shoe is on another foot and so it's ok. As long as I don't involve you and yours it's fine.

See demonstrations are great, nobody thinks otherwise. But they should not occupy territory to the exclusion of others. They should not deface property public or otherwise. And I'm glad to hear that you admit this is a huge operation. Because that's exactly what it is and CHAZ is but one piece of it.

Sorry, that's not what I said. I said that your descriptive analogy was not a very good one. That's all.