must have been someone else then who is supposed to have sent an angel to kill all the first born sons of egypt.
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I suppose that is one way to look at it. Certainly he is bound by his nature in that he can't sin. He can't be evil.
I have a question for Christian evolutionists:
Death is involved with evolution, right? Of course animals die in the million/billion whatever years that evolution requires. But why would God proclaim a world filled with death as very good? And what then would The Fall do more, because sin and death go hand-in-hand?
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some Christians, not all Christians. I learn of God many times from things other than the Bible, though I do believe that if it's contradictory to the bible it is not true.
Cannot, it is outside His Holy nature.
Hell.
that is your right. Have you?
God brought me to Himself, but He did use people to help me along, though ultimately, I give Him the credit and am thankful for the people who were a part of His drawing me to Himself.
I wasnt' implying that it was. It is His gift, though I can be a 'messanger'.
I suppose that is one way to look at it. Certainly he is bound by his nature in that he can't sin. He can't be evil.
You forget that the only reason that A&E would live forever was because they were eating of the Tree of Life. Also, if they did not know what death was, wouldn't God telling them "you will surely die" be kind of pointless?
Hmmm, it might. He and I seem to always be headed in different directions. Of course it might just be that his bike is British, and they drive on the wrong side of the road...your bike is headed to the Left and jpcdotal's to the Right...
does this signify something?
So, if there are things He cannot do, then He is not omnipotent. If He is not omnipotent, then He defies the definition of "God." So why worship Him?I suppose that is one way to look at it. Certainly he is bound by his nature in that he can't sin. He can't be evil.
Is there any reason they should have been immortal? Surely death is only really an issue for sentients with the ability to choose their way into hell.
Well, there's the opportunity to sin, and there's condemning all humanity for one person's choice during one opportunity for sin, but let's not split hairs.
Yup.
And guess what, they're life.
hxxp://www . answersingenesis. org /articles/hcalg/the-big-picture said:Yes, plants were eaten, and as Dr. Hugh Ross notes, they “suffered” in this way, yet they clearly lack a brain to interpret this as pain. Scripture itself makes an important distinction between plants and animals at this point. In Genesis 1, we see a general Hebrew term—nephesh. This word refers to living creatures such as man and animals. The word doesn’t apply to plants, but it does apply to vertebrates. The Bible clearly distinguishes between animals that have a nephesh and the plants and insects which do not. So the Bible would not classify plants as living creatures in the same way as those that have blood and flesh.
Would you have done it if God hadn't given Satan free roam in the supposedly "perfect" paradise? I doubt it.I bet I would have done it too...we are all sinful, so I believe we would each succumb to Satan's "tricks" if we didn't have God.
Maybe he won't do it, instead of can't.Hmmm, it might. He and I seem to always be headed in different directions. Of course it might just be that his bike is British, and they drive on the wrong side of the road...
So, if there are things He cannot do, then He is not omnipotent. If He is not omnipotent, then He defies the definition of "God." So why worship Him?
If He is omnipotent then He can, by choice, be evil. I believe there are specific examples in the Bible where God exhibited evil behavior. By "evil," I mean deliberately deceiving or exacting punishment or murder on those who either didn't know any better or didn't deserve it. If He can and does act evil, then why worship Him? Out of fear?
Mans' efforts to classify and codify the universe are, at best*, weak, when compared to God's.So the Bible would not classify plants as living creatures in the same way as those that have blood and flesh.
Would you have done it if God hadn't given Satan free roam in the supposedly "perfect" paradise? I doubt it.
God intentionally kept Adam and Eve ignorant of Satan's presence (and his nature) and they fell for a trick when they didn't know any better. If you were in a magical paradise and you were walking hand-in-hand with a supernatural deity, wouldn't a talking serpent just seem like another wonderful, magical component of the same? The whole thing stinks of a setup.
If we "evolved" up to the point where humans finally came (A&E), don't you think some animals died? You know, natural causes (getting old), sickness, being killed, etc.
Darwin observed natural selection on those Galapagos islands, and he counted that as evidence for evolution (or so I learned...).
I bet I would have done it too...we are all sinful, so I believe we would each succumb to Satan's "tricks" if we didn't have God.
What a crazy thing to not allow links or images until you have 50 posts.
He may have not told them about Satan (we never know what went on when they walked with God), but he warned them not to eat of that tree. They should have known something was "fishy"when this snake told them to eat something God said not to...
If God wanted us to be robots, He could have kept all chance of sin away. But instead, He gave us a free will.
Besides, how can you know what is good if you don't know what is evil?
Indeed.He may have not told them about Satan (we never know what went on when they walked with God), but he warned them not to eat of that tree.
Dude, it was a talking snake! Why would two naive, spontaneously-created people have reason to believe that anyone but God could create a talking snake? That's messed up.He may have not told them about Satan (we never know what went on when they walked with God), but he warned them not to eat of that tree. They should have known something was "fishy" when this snake told them to eat something God said not to...
Absolutely untrue! Are you actually suggesting that if He hadn't allowed Satan in the garden that we would be nothing but robots? Bull. Huge, stinking load of bull. Why was God content to walk in the garden with Adam and Eve before they fell? They had free will the whole time and I daresay they were perfectly content.If God wanted us to be robots, He could have kept all chance of sin away. But instead, He gave us a free will.
My point exactly. How in the world could Adam and Eve identify with "you shall surely die" or "[talking snake]: but that's not what God actually meant; you can eat it, it's OK?" They were clueless and God should have known better than to purposely place the object of man's eventual downfall right smack in the middle of man's home. You've got to be kidding me, that's a textbook setup.Besides, how can you know what is good if you don't know what is evil?
Right, exactly, how were they supposed to understand the don't-eat-that-fruit scenario? They had literally no way of understanding the outcome or why - it wasn't a fair choice.
If God said don't eat it, and a snake said to eat it, I would think that is a good enough command. They may have not understood what would happen or why, but often faith in God leads without are knowing until we look back on it.
I'm sure they knew what would happen if they ate it --- else why would the serpent have gone out of his way to say they wouldn't die?If God said don't eat it, and a snake said to eat it, I would think that is a good enough command. They may have not understood what would happen or why, but often faith in God leads without are knowing until we look back on it.
I'm sure they knew what would happen if they ate it --- else why would the serpent have gone out of his way to say they wouldn't die?
Note that when Eve looked at the fruit from a scientific perspective (Genesis 3:6a And when the woman saw...), and not a spiritual perspective, she ended up sinning.
Dude, it was a talking snake! Why would two naive, spontaneously-created people have reason to believe that anyone but God could create a talking snake? That's messed up.
Absolutely untrue! Are you actually suggesting that if He hadn't allowed Satan in the garden that we would be nothing but robots? Bull. Huge, stinking load of bull. Why was God content to walk in the garden with Adam and Eve before they fell? They had free will the whole time and I daresay they were perfectly content.
My point exactly. How in the world could Adam and Eve identify with "you shall surely die" or "[talking snake]: but that's not what God actually meant; you can eat it, it's OK?" They were clueless and God should have known better than to purposely place the object of man's eventual downfall right smack in the middle of man's home. You've got to be kidding me, that's a textbook setup.
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