How would Christianity change for you if...?

[juvenissun]

But that's the process we see in God's creation now, are you saying you look at nature, which is God's creation, and see it as evil?

This also makes me wonder what "evil" means to you.

I would like to point out that I look at nature and see beauty in the struggle for survival. I think it's an amazing system of growth and rebirth.

Yes, when you see this process on anything except on human, it is beautiful. But I guess to accept evolution also means the process would apply to human too, then you can certainly see the evil side of it.

There is a current thread on C&E about another principle of evolution: natural selection. I argue there that it is also another evil one.

 

[philadiddle]

Yes, when you see this process on anything except on human, it is beautiful. But I guess to accept evolution also means the process would apply to human too, then you can certainly see the evil side of it.

There is a current thread on C&E about another principle of evolution: natural selection. I argue there that it is also another evil one.

So you think survival of the fittest is a wondrous part of creation as long as humans aren't involved?

What does "evil" mean to you?

 

[juvenissun]

So you think survival of the fittest is a wondrous part of creation as long as humans aren't involved?

What does "evil" mean to you?

No. any principle of evolution does not belong to creation. It is not good. So survival of the fittest is not good when it happened on animals.
If human recognized the principle, then it is evil. Evil is thought/behavior which against God.

 

[philadiddle]

No. any principle of evolution does not belong to creation. It is not good. So survival of the fittest is not good when it happened on animals.
If human recognized the principle, then it is evil. Evil is thought/behavior which against God.

If God is all knowing then He would have had the foresight to know that nature would turn out the way it is now, but you are saying that God never intended nature to function the way it does? Nature is now acting out against God?

 

[juvenissun]

If God is all knowing then He would have had the foresight to know that nature would turn out the way it is now, but you are saying that God never intended nature to function the way it does? Nature is now acting out against God?

Should I remind you the consequence of Adam's sin?

However, one step back, I don't really know the purpose of animal creation by God. All I can see is that animal provides a mirror to human so we can see ourselves better. Whatever animals do, since they do not sin, I guess God won't mind. And, I hate to say this, I guess they don't have a future in the eternity. I really like to see peaceful animals in the Heaven. Would there be an angle with a dog face?

 

[Assyrian]

Would there be an angle with a dog face?

I have seen a dog leg angle but not a dog face. Unless you mean angel?

No specific mention of dog faces, just human, cow, eagle and lion.
Ezek 1:9 their wings touched one another. Each one of them went straight forward, without turning as they went. 10 As for the likeness of their faces, each had a human face. The four had the face of a lion on the right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and the four had the face of an eagle.

 

[juvenissun]

I have seen a dog leg angle but not a dog face. Unless you mean angel?

No specific mention of dog faces, just human, cow, eagle and lion.
Ezek 1:9 their wings touched one another. Each one of them went straight forward, without turning as they went. 10 As for the likeness of their faces, each had a human face. The four had the face of a lion on the right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and the four had the face of an eagle.

Ha ha ... Thanks.