How will you react if Trump wins electorally but is declared unfit to be president?

Stephen3141 · Oct 24, 2024

By the way, "democracy" is not defined as the will of the people,
regardless of the fair rule of law.

When decisions are made made, by majority vote, apart from the fair rule of
law, is called MOB RULE. That, is not American democracy.

The worst tyrants in history, often claim to be doing "what is good for the people",
and even "what the people want". But these surface claims, should never be
confused with democracy.

lifepsyop · Oct 24, 2024

Stephen3141 said:
You're getting into speculation.

It's not (just) the current administration that is openly stating that Trump
is unfit to lead the country. It is dozens of Trump appointees, to his
previous 4 years as President, who are testifying that he has no regard
for the Consitution, or the fair rule of law in America.

Don't tryo to spin this question, as if it is (just) a concern of the current
administration.

The question is difficult, because (I think) that it silently is appealing to
the idea that the majority vote of citizens, in a presidential election,
determines what should be the law of the land. AND THIS IS FALSE.

It is the due process of law in America, and the fair rule of law, that
determines what is legal and illegal, in this country.

Appealing to some majority vote, is the way that lynch mobs operate -- not the
fair rule of law in America. This seems to be lost on some of Trump's followers.

Claims about election procedures, fall under the individual laws of the individual states.
Claims about election fraud, must follow due process of law, under the individual
laws of the states.

Decisions about the capacity of the elected President to competently carry out his
Consitutional duties (regardless of what HE thinks), already have been addressed
in the founding documents, and the fair rule of law. This decision is not a free for all,
between different posturing political parties.

I was referring to a conventional electoral victory for Trump (not a majority vote)

Assuming Trump does win, I'm sure you would agree that the griping and complaining of Trump's past employees would not be a valid reason to block him from the presidency?

Trying to get a feel for where you stand on the questions in the OP.

lifepsyop · Oct 24, 2024

I would also pose a question to subscribers of the January 6th "Insurrection" narrative... I know there are quite a few on here.

If Trump wins the election, we all know there is going to be large scale protests and riots as a result.

My question is, what level of systematic anti-Trump threats, violence and terror will have to occur for you to say that an 'attack on our democracy' is occurring, similar to the threat posed on Jan. 6.

For example, if DC goes on lockdown from mass riots and if any political leaders or officials are being directly threatened or terrorized for their involvement in allowing a 2nd Trump presidency, will you likewise characterize such behavior as an attempt to thwart our electoral process?

Or do you feel such violence and terror would be justified because they are trying to 'save democracy' and stop a Fascist from gaining the presidency?

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 24, 2024

Trump is in decline:

40 minute song and dance at recent Q & A
Referencing to Arnold Palmer's genitals for ten minutes
Rambling speeches
Compulsive lying, cant tell truth from fiction
Confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi
Called Republican representative Matt Gaetz, Rick Gates

mourningdove~ · Oct 24, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
Trump is in decline:

40 minute song and dance at recent Q & A

Referencing to Arnold Palmer's genitals for ten minutes

Rambling speeches

Compulsive lying, cant tell truth from fiction

Confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi

Called Republican representative Matt Gaetz, Rick Gates

1. Nothing wrong with song and dance. His supporters enjoyed the fun!
2. A joke, done in poor taste.
3. His supporters want to hear him talk. They wait in line hours and hours, just to hear him.
4. If so, that would be nothing different than what the Democratic candidate is doing.
5. Yes, he did.
6. Yes, he did.

So, based on a joke done in poor taste ...
and Trump's confusing of names, twice ...
you declare a man incompetent???

That is just too funny to take seriously ...

o_mlly · Oct 24, 2024

hedrick said:
I can certainly imagine that in the fairly near future Vance would become President.

I agree. January, 2028. Mark your calendar.

o_mlly · Oct 24, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
Trump is in decline:

40 minute song and dance at recent Q & A

Referencing to Arnold Palmer's genitals for ten minutes

Rambling speeches

Compulsive lying, cant tell truth from fiction

Confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi

Called Republican representative Matt Gaetz, Rick Gates

Except for #2 and possibly #5, one would think your evidencing Harris' decline.

o_mlly · Oct 24, 2024

lifepsyop said:
If Trump wins the election, we all know there is going to be large scale protests and riots as a result.

"All" would include me, and I don't know the future, and neither do you.

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 24, 2024

o_mlly said:
Except for #2 and possibly #5, one would think your evidencing Harris' decline.

No.

Trump's lying is off the chart an incomparable to any other politician. And he might even believe his own fantasies. It sometimes seems as though he cannot distinguish reality from fantasy.

So another important question is "does he actually believe his own untruths?" Whether he does or not, his loyal followers will believe anything he says. Or write it off as "Trump being Trump". And thus we normalize falsehood, poor taste, and boorish behavior that most of us would not accept in our own children.

o_mlly · Oct 24, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
No.

Yes.

Akita Suggagaki said:
Trump's lying is off the chart ... he might even believe his own fantasies.

Self-contradiction. If the latter statement is true then he is not lying.

Akita Suggagaki said:
And thus we normalize falsehood, poor taste, and boorish behavior that most of us would not accept in our own children.

Are we back to characterizing Harris?

Hazelelponi · Oct 24, 2024

lifepsyop said:
As a follow-up question, (and this question is particularly for those who believe January 6th was an "Insurrection" ) if Trump wins and there is any kind of mass violence or trespassing on government property by anti-Trump protestors during the electoral confirmation process, will you likewise perceive this as an insurrection attempt to overturn the electoral process?

I will be gardening until Christ returns for me.

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 25, 2024

He says he will use the military to deal with "the enemy within" and names Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff. Meanwhile he also says he will pardon these guys:

Is that anyone's idea of America?

stevevw · Oct 25, 2024

lifepsyop said:
MSN

Just ahead of the 2024 election, the current administration appears to be setting up the narrative framework that Trump is an illegitimate candidate (because he's unstable, or a fascist, or otherwise a "threat to democracy"...)

Hypothetically speaking, if Trump ends up having a clear electoral victory that is not in question....

How will you react if the current administration still attempts to block his swearing in as President by invoking some sort of state of emergency in order to deny Trump the presidency. The stated "emergency" might be that Trump is supposedly too unstable to become President, or because he stands accused of "insurrection" from J6, or any number of narratives that could be presented as the reason the administration supposedly has no choice but to block the election of Trump "to save democracy".

Will you consider this a coup attempt by the existing administration to overturn the election results?

Or you will view such an electoral denial as acceptable in order to protect democracy?

.....

As a follow-up question, (and this question is particularly for those who believe January 6th was an "Insurrection" ) if Trump wins and there is any kind of mass violence or trespassing on government property by anti-Trump protestors during the electoral confirmation process, will you likewise perceive this as an insurrection attempt to overturn the electoral process?

Harris and the Left will attempt to avoid having to deal with Trump before he has a chance to win. Their new tactic is returning to the dangerous rhetoric that led to the Trump assassination attempt.

Harris is now painting Trump as Hitler and a threat to democracy. That he will lock up democratic supporters in some fascist regime. The Leftist minders and media will push this narrative in the hope that another unstable Leftist takes him out.

Problem solved. Thats all they have left. Harris has nothing and she is exposed as a phoney. So now all she has left is attacking Trump even if that means getting him literally taken out. Thats how desperate the Left are getting.

The ironic thing is the Left are complaining about Trump using the Office to take out the Dems and destroy democracy in some future hypothetical (which he never did when president last time). While right here and now we have the Left pushing a narrative to take out Trump like some totalitarian regime.

Its like the pot calling the kettle black. The Left are accusing Trump of doing exactly what they are doing.

Thats how it usually works. The one who is really destroying democracy accuses the other of destroying democracy to avert attention away from the Left actually destroying democracy.

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 25, 2024

stevevw said:
Their new tactic is returning to the dangerous rhetoric that led to the Trump assassination attempt.

Sometimes the "dangerous rhetoric" is simply repeating Trumps own words.

stevevw · Oct 25, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
Sometimes the "dangerous rhetoric" is simply repeating Trumps own words.

Hum, see thats the trick. They take Trumps words and twist them into a new creation. One of their own and not Trumps. Thats how the ideology works. Its a chameleon. It uses part truths and mixes them with lies to make it appear truth. Its a sneaky tactic but it works on many as they don't take time to stop and critically think about it.

But when you do, when you investigate you begin to find the misrepresentations, the twists of truth and outright lies.

Michie · Oct 25, 2024

I’m no staying calm and carrying on no matter who wins.

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 25, 2024

stevevw said:
Hum, see thats the trick. They take Trumps words and twist them into a new creation. One of their own and not Trumps. Thats how the ideology works. Its a chameleon. It uses part truths and mixes them with lies to make it appear truth. Its a sneaky tactic but it works on many as they don't take time to stop and critically think about it.

But when you do, when you investigate you begin to find the misrepresentations, the twists of truth and outright lies.

Most often no twist or distortion or misrepresentation at all.

stevevw · Oct 25, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
Most often no twist or distortion or misrepresentation at all.

Really, in this day and age of fake news and narratives.

Kamala Harris, the left puts a target on Donald Trump’s back with Nazi, Adolf Hitler smears
Kamala Harris, called an “emergency” press conference Wednesday to tell the world that he is the second coming of Adolf Hitler.

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/kamala-harris-the-left-puts-a-target-on-donald-trumps-back-with-nazi-adolf-hitler-smears/news-story/29fcbb8014883516e29da48f517c342d

Vice President Kamala Harris popped up Wednesday to cite a disputed Atlantic report as evidence that Donald Trump is a tyrant-in-waiting who admires Adolf Hitler and disrespected a murdered soldier — despite the account being challenged by the victim’s sister.

White House says Trump a ‘fascist’ after Harris claims ex-prez wants ‘unchecked power’

Vice President Kamala Harris stepped out to make unexpected remarks Wednesday about former Trump chief of staff John Kelly claiming his boss previously praised Adolf Hitler.

nypost.com

Kamala Harris’ campaign team is editing news headlines on ads in her favor — without outlets’ knowledge: report

Kamala Harris’ campaign team is editing news headlines on ads in her favor — without outlets’ knowledge: report

The altered headlines — appearing on Google ads and paired with a “Paid for by Harris for President” banner — were changed without the news outlet’s knowledge.

nypost.com

The rise of left-wing, anti-Trump fake news

The rise of left-wing, anti-Trump fake news

Following the results of the US presidential race, has fake news from the left seen a surge in popularity?

www.bbc.com

Akita Suggagaki · Oct 25, 2024

stevevw said:
Really, in this day and age of fake news and narratives.

Kamala Harris, the left puts a target on Donald Trump’s back with Nazi, Adolf Hitler smears
Kamala Harris, called an “emergency” press conference Wednesday to tell the world that he is the second coming of Adolf Hitler.

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/kamala-harris-the-left-puts-a-target-on-donald-trumps-back-with-nazi-adolf-hitler-smears/news-story/29fcbb8014883516e29da48f517c342d

Vice President Kamala Harris popped up Wednesday to cite a disputed Atlantic report as evidence that Donald Trump is a tyrant-in-waiting who admires Adolf Hitler and disrespected a murdered soldier — despite the account being challenged by the victim’s sister.

White House says Trump a ‘fascist’ after Harris claims ex-prez wants ‘unchecked power’

Vice President Kamala Harris stepped out to make unexpected remarks Wednesday about former Trump chief of staff John Kelly claiming his boss previously praised Adolf Hitler.

nypost.com

Kamala Harris’ campaign team is editing news headlines on ads in her favor — without outlets’ knowledge: report

Kamala Harris’ campaign team is editing news headlines on ads in her favor — without outlets’ knowledge: report

The altered headlines — appearing on Google ads and paired with a “Paid for by Harris for President” banner — were changed without the news outlet’s knowledge.

nypost.com

The rise of left-wing, anti-Trump fake news

The rise of left-wing, anti-Trump fake news

Following the results of the US presidential race, has fake news from the left seen a surge in popularity?

www.bbc.com

I can recall several incidents of Trump himself using "dangerous rhetoric". I am sure you can also.

FaithT · Oct 25, 2024

Akita Suggagaki said:
No.

Trump's lying is off the chart an incomparable to any other politician. And he might even believe his own fantasies. It sometimes seems as though he cannot distinguish reality from fantasy.

So another important question is "does he actually believe his own untruths?" Whether he does or not, his loyal followers will believe anything he says. Or write it off as "Trump being Trump". And thus we normalize falsehood, poor taste, and boorish behavior that most of us would not accept in our own children.

I think he knows the difference between reality and fantasy. I think he’s just a hopeless, compulsive liar.

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