How was Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit?

[Hammster]

That's the language of devotion! But God in the person of Jesus Christ must keep His own commandments and honor His Father & Mother, and in Jn 2 even though His hour had not come He obey His mother made the miracle and His disciples believed because of Her intercession!

No, it says they believed because of His miracle.

This, the first of his signs, Jesus did at Cana in Galilee, and manifested his glory. And his disciples believed in him. - John 2:11

 

[PeaceByJesus]

I never said she commands or God obeys, I only say she is the instrument used by God to fill Elizabeth with the Holy Spirit, as she is the instrument by which the disciples believed in Jesus in Jn 2

And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: (Luke 1:41)

Then you could also purport that since the babe was already filled with the Holy Spirit and conveyed that to his mother.

As for John 2, what kind of instrument is it when one needs to be reminded once again that the Christ only does the will of the Father, in subjection to Him, and is under no obligation to remedy her problem (which is what as a study of the phrase "what have I to do with thee" testifies to) unless it be Him time, and thus all she can say is "Whatsoever [if anything] he saith unto you, do."

By looking to Christ as Savior, to do what she was powerless herself to do, Mary was an instrument of God, not by irresistible power of intercession, but that the wedding itself, as well as those who wanted wine (but did not ask Mary to intercede), was by occasion was an instrument used by God by which the disciples believed in Jesus is also true.

None of which presents or elevates Mary as heavenly object of prayers, which is utterly unseen in Scripture, and is egregious extrapolation to use John 2 for this.

 

[PeaceByJesus]

But His miracle was because of Her intercession, He still obeyed and honored His mother

See above post. There was no "obeyed" His mother: rather after being reminded of His subjection to the Father, versus any agreement or obligation to man*, she obeyed His reproof by leaving His response up to Him/the Father's will. Likewise this was her lesson in response to her scolding in Luke 2, which she did not understand:

And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. (Luke 2:48-50)

*Search: "what have i to do with" thee/you/them.
2 Samuel 16:10
2 Samuel 19:22
1 Kings 17:18
2 Kings 3:13
2 Chronicles 35:21
Hosea 14:8
Mark 5:7
Luke 8:28
John 2:4
1 Corinthians 5:12

 

[Hammster]

But His miracle was because of Her intercession, He still obeyed and honored His mother

No, His miracle was because it was ordained that He do so for the glory of His Father.

 

[Markwsmith2020]

4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

No His time had not arrived but He obey His mother, honor thy father and mother

 

[Hammster]

4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.

No His time had not arrived but He obey His mother, honor thy father and mother

Yeah, but that doesn’t make the point you want it to make. Especially when the scripture actually tells us why they believe.

 

[redleghunter]

That's the language of devotion! But God in the person of Jesus Christ must keep His own commandments and honor His Father & Mother, and in Jn 2 even though His hour had not come He obey His mother made the miracle and His disciples believed because of Her intercession!

The disciples didn't even know Mary asked.

 

[redleghunter]

But His miracle was because of Her intercession, He still obeyed and honored His mother

Mary asked Jesus.

Just as other people asked Jesus to give them sight and cleanse them from leprosy. Are those people co-Mediator as well?

 

[Markwsmith2020]

Then what us the cos of Elizabeth being filled with the Holy Spirit

Luke 1:28
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women
From the Wycliffe bible

 

[redleghunter]

Then what us the cos of Elizabeth being filled with the Holy Spirit

Luke 1:28
And the angel entered to her, and said, Hail, full of grace; the Lord is with thee; blessed be thou among women
From the Wycliffe bible

The Holy Spirit.

 

[Markwsmith2020]

Then why wasn't she filled before or after Mary greeted her,
Lk 1:40 And she entered into the house of Zacharias, and greeted Elisabeth.

41 And it was done, as Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the young child in her womb gladded. And Elisabeth was full-filled with the Holy Ghost

42 and cried with a great voice, and said, Blessed be thou among women, and blessed be the fruit of thy womb.

43 And whereof is this thing to me, that the mother of my Lord come to me? "Mother of God"

44 For lo! as the voice of thy salutation was made in mine ears, the young child gladded in joy in my womb

45 And blessed be thou, that hast believed, for those things that be said of the Lord to thee [for those things that be said to thee from the Lord], shall be perfectly done.

As the voice of thy salutation, Mary's greeting was the cause!

 

[redleghunter]

Then why wasn't she filled before or after Mary greeted her,

Ask The Holy Spirit.

 

[Markwsmith2020]

You mean ask the church the Apostles?

John 14:26
But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said.
Lk 10:16 he who hears you (the apostles) hears me!
Jn 8:32 you ( the Apostles ) shall know the the truth!