How unbearable would hell be?

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

food and drink is imaginary but you have to eat it to survive

I think you need some help.

 

[nightmares]

Thank you for your kind and constructive post

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

Thank you for your kind and constructive post

I meant it to be kind and constructive. Thinking food and drink is imaginary on top of everything else you said made me concerned for your mental health. How else could I have reacted to that?

 

[nightmares]

I meant it to be kind and constructive. Thinking food and drink is imaginary on top of everything else you said made me concerned for your mental health. How else could I have reacted to that?

Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious.

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

Cypher: You know, I know this steak doesn't exist. I know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is juicy and delicious.

LOL, You're quoting the Matrix? Now I feel like I'm in the Matrix. I can't tell what part of what you say is real, and what part is an illusion. At least I'm not concerned for YOUR mental health any more.

 

[nightmares]

Yeah, you're still taking the blue pill

 

[stevenb6]

I feel sorry for you guys. You may indeed be Christians, but you seem to have no respect for God or the things of God. Maybe that's the reason you're both miserable.

Thank you for your obervation. I struggled with mental illness since the age of 18. I've done everything on my end to try and be godly, listened to christian music religiously for years. Read the bible, i've even been to church. Nothing has helped. What especially doesn't help is "holier than thou" mentalities that try and make me feel more guilty than I already do for not being able to fit in with society or better myself.

 

[stevenb6]

Yeah, you're still taking the blue pill

This is another thing I thnk is wrong with people. "I'm so woke and you're not!" Get over yourself. Nobody even has control over anything. anything we do it's because we think we are right until we are sure it's wrong.

 

[NewLifeInChristJesus]

Thank you for your obervation. I struggled with mental illness since the age of 18. I've done everything on my end to try and be godly, listened to christian music religiously for years. Read the bible, i've even been to church. Nothing has helped. What especially doesn't help is "holier than thou" mentalities that try and make me feel more guilty than I already do for not being able to fit in with society or better myself.

I had to go back and read why i had that reaction. Certainly it wasn’t a holier than thou mentality that caused my reaction. But i can see how you might have taken it that way. I’m sorry you’re having trouble and can’t find help. Concerning guilt, the only real way to deal with it is to receive the forgiveness that Jesus offers.

 

[nightmares]

This is another thing I think is wrong with people. "I'm so woke and you're not!" Get over yourself. Nobody even has control over anything. anything we do it's because we think we are right until we are sure it's wrong.

Get over yourself. I didn't say anything about being "woke". You did

 

[stevenb6]

Get over yourself. I didn't say anything about being "woke". You did

I'm familiar with "blue pilled" meaning. That's that whole matrix bs.

 

[stevenb6]

I had to go back and read why i had that reaction. Certainly it wasn’t a holier than thou mentality that caused my reaction. But i can see how you might have taken it that way. I’m sorry you’re having trouble and can’t find help. Concerning guilt, the only real way to deal with it is to receive the forgiveness that Jesus offers.

I can directly relate the worst times of my life beginning when I heard about god and feeling coerced into listening to christian music out of guilt. That's the whole thing for me, i've spent at least 12 years now trying to appease god. It's an endless, hopeless, futile mission. Forgiveness is a cool concept, so is god, funny thing is i've never really felt either.

Mental illness sucks. All i'm gonna say. Have a good day sir.

 

[nightmares]

I'm familiar with "blue pilled" meaning. That's that whole matrix bs.

Nah it's not bs it's truth. We are trapped in a false reality

 

[Beslowtoanger]

I’m not sure on the subject, I’m not educated enough (but I’m trying) however first and foremost as Christians/people we should debate but do so with love and support.

As for Hell……….there is a point to the term hell on earth but I see that as within our hearts and minds not a place. Only through our lord and saviour with the guidance and wisdom of the Holy Ghost can we tread the straight and oh so narrow path and banish the Hell “in self” back to its place of origin. We know that Heaven is a kingdom, a place and the word of God comes from him, our glorious father, but we want to keep it there and so we have to live a righteous life, a kind life, a life not concerned with our “Hell on earth“ desires.

So, like all of us, I have no idea what it looks like but through sin and trapped in torment, through strongholds we all have a glimpse of Hell, here in our own lives. It’s a place, a rotten place without peace, kindness, love, full of deception, lies, without grace, without anything you associate with the works and love of the father.

Accept the truth that Jesus Christ the son of the living God, saved us all, every single one of us, as long as we confess our sins, open our hearts and mind, then take your cross and do all we can to walk the rest of our lives in the word of God, then we will never see any Hell, in its actual place.

(All in my opinion with love)

Peace and love to all

David

 

[Jeffwhosoever]

I really don't see how it can be taken that way

And there is no rest knowing you are stuck in a world of lies where the food and drink is imaginary but you have to eat it to survive

God is many things but a filthy sadist is not one of them

Where do you live right now to have such horrible conditions of daily life? I can't imagine any place on earth is as bad as being in an eternal place of ultimate suffering with no end in sight. How can any condition on earth be as bad as an eternity of suffering?

 

[Beslowtoanger]

Where do you live right now to have such horrible conditions of daily life? I can't imagine any place on earth is as bad as being in an eternal place of ultimate suffering with no end in sight. How can any condition on earth be as bad as an eternity of suffering?

I agree, however, we always end up back to faith, belief, letting God in our hearts unveil the truth. The problem with human life is needing to often see, to believe or have conclusive scientific proof. If a person could hop in a taxi and see what it looked like and felt that suffering as a taster……..the world would be brimming with the word of God. I know the kingdom of heaven is real (revealed by God), so the opposite is also true, that has been shown to me through faith and faith alone.

I think the issue we have here is doubt (without being judgemental) terms Like “appease God” suggests an internal struggle underpinned by earthly experiences rather than Godly experiences, exacerbated by the absence of proof.

Im no pastor, preacher, teacher or counsellor but the only way to have peace with God (and life) is to walk with him not around him. God is the centre of everything and everybody, until the world sees that then it will be full of doubt and unbelieving of both heaven and hell.

God bless you
David

 

[nightmares]

Where do you live right now to have such horrible conditions of daily life? I can't imagine any place on earth is as bad as being in an eternal place of ultimate suffering with no end in sight. How can any condition on earth be as bad as an eternity of suffering?

I don't believe in an afterlife Hell of suffering

Rather, this world is our hell

And when we die we all go to a place that we consider "heaven". So, for example, Christians end up with God while murderers end up together

 

[JohnClay]

@nightmares
I just wanted to make some comments:
About the Matrix movies.... if you die in the Matrix you die in "real life". You only experience the afterlife if you are unhooked from the Matrix before you die. I think the Architect in the movies is a machine.