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How tolerant are you of other religions?

How tolerant are you?

  • I don't tolerant other religions well at all

  • I tolerate people of other beliefs, but know they are wrong

  • I see merits in other faiths besides my own

  • I tolerate people believing anything at all

  • I can easily tolerate faiths related or close to my own

  • I can easily tolerate faiths that are popular in my culture

  • I accept every faith as possibly true

  • I don't believe in any religion, and think they are all dumb

  • I believe in no religion, but see merits in some

  • I am undecided or different


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radorth said:
Read a history book and get real Momentum. Claiming we can do what no other society before us has done is just arrogant and self-righteous at worst and wishfull thinking at best. You have hope for THIS WORLD when there is none. But tell us, would it be OK if Jesus came back to dominate or not??!!
Ya it would be great if Jesus would come back to dominate. Muslims wait for him too. He will set things right once and for all. But until then, we have to try our best to make this world a better place! Or do you prefer we let it rot like it has been for the past 500 years or so?

You have fatalistic view of Creation, i think. Of course there is hope. Our mission on earth is to make this place as Godly as possible. Not to sit back, relax, and enjoy our easy come salavation. We must strive and struggle with our own souls to bring out good, and with others to stop them from evil.

Good deeds and loving thy neighbor ARE the only way to solve our problems. If poeple were competing with each other on who did more good works, then things would change. Rather then compete on who has THE INTERPREATION, or who is a real Christian and who will God save. These matters are of no concern to us, 'cause in the end, there is One Judge.


Sorry to keep asking these questions, but you keep talking as if humans have the solution through "good works." That's complete nonsense, unless you are much more righteous than your ancestors. Is that what you are claiming?
My understanding of the history of my ancestors shows that theis system worked and brought peace. Many don't even recognize this fact and assocaite all sorts of slander and violence against Islam and Muhammad. Very improper. I certainly am not more righteous than them. They were rightly guided, we're finding our way in the dark.

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Unfortunatly I can't tolerate other religions other than my own, this is doctrinal in basis. BUT this doesn't mean that I go about rubbing it in other peoples faces. Let them be, and maybe we can talk over coffee sometime and disscuss opposing views.
That is your choice, of course. I just happen to think choosing otherwise is better for everyone.
 
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radorth said:
You mean it's going to cost this Christian more than $3000???!! How much are Japan and India kicking in BTW?


Namaste rad,

i wasn't sure this was addressed to me as you're referenced several other peoples points here...

in any event... they are putting in as much money as they invested in destroying Iraq... actually, they are probably putting in more money... however... how is that relevant to the discussion at hand?

I never said any such thing. I said the vast majority of PRIVATE hospitals were built by Christians. If you can't read, please don't respond to my posts. I consider it slanderous to misquote people as you have just done.
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this is one of those other posts that is referring to. in any event... as we are all typing, we can thus be accounted as able to read. emotional tirades do not become you sir.


I guess you couldn't think of a civil response. How's things in Pakistan these days?
that was a civil reponse. if you're going to make senseless claims of such nature, do not be surprised when they are pointed up and refuted or when such previous actions are held up for the light of investigation. i couldn't tell you how things in Pakistan are... how are things in your country?


I'm sorry. I should have said "Protestant" instead of Christian. You might have gotten the point.
perhaps that would have helped... however, that's not what you did. in any event.. the question is still pending to you.

And here I thought a lot of Japanese were Buddhists, but that can't be because then they wouldn't have geisha's. We're looking for actual manifestations of liberal works here, not Buddha's good intentions.
i'm afraid that rather than explaining the time line of such things, it would be much more worth your while to actually investigate these things for yourself. it would be, i suppose, rather pointless to point out the incorrectness of your statement here... as i've noted that you have completely ignored my other refutations of your errorenous claims of WW2, Japan, Russia and so forth. you will, of course, acknowldge that not all Japanese are Buddhist and not all Americans are Christians... if they were... how could we have had slavery.. and have a war over it? emotional appeals, whilst powerful to the weak willed, have no sway here.


History is baseless?
your assertion is baseless unless you have sources that you can cite for your information. plain and simple. historical facts are documented.. or we would be calling them historical facts. please provide them so we can review them.. i've done that with all my refutations of your points.


Standards are nice. Actual works are far more valuable, but to have any worth bragging about "You must be born again" so that you are regenerated internally and your motives are purified.

(Like Finney was)

So anyway Vaj, how much are the Buddhists and Hindus kicking in to rebuild Iraq?

Your friend Rad
this is your assertion, and no one is disputing that.

why on earth would Buddhists contribute to the American War effort when we don't think that war is capable of solving the issue?

more to the point... how is that germane to the discussion at hand?

in every instance where you've made allegations of "how things are" in the rest of the world, i've provided verifiable refutations to which you've either chosen not to respond to.. and when you have, it's been unsupported opinions.

it is quite clear that you've already determined all there is to know and, moreover, that you already know it... despite the obvious errors in your statement and conclusions. if you can provide links, book references.. any thing really.. that would support any of the allegations you've made.. it would go a long way towards establishing the veracity of your statements. as it stands, we cannot accept anything that you say.

perhaps, you can do away with the juvenile insults and invective?
 
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originally posted by mo.mentum

You have fatalistic view of Creation, i think. Of course there is hope. Our mission on earth is to make this place as Godly as possible. Not to sit back, relax, and enjoy our easy come salavation. We must strive and struggle with our own souls to bring out good, and with others to stop them from evil.

Stopping people from doing evil isn't going to make evil go away. For some reason, too much of this world fails to see the real problem. Each of us has a sinful nature in us, and until that is removed from us, we will always be at odds with each other. That's the reason that Christ's message on salvation is so important. Man is outright a fool! He thinks he has solutions for the world. He uses his worldly knowledge and wisdom to come to conclusions. He's a fool because he denies his sin and can't come to terms that, it is he, that is the problem. It has to be something else that is responsible for what he does or don't doesn't and not him.

Good deeds and loving thy neighbor ARE the only way to solve our problems. If poeple were competing with each other on who did more good works, then things would change.

How many good deeds must you do? Are you counting them and keeping a list? Again, the problem is sin which is produced from our sinful nature. It can only be dealt with on a spiritual level - not social, economical or political level. Until the world addresses that problem, good luck. Competing on the basis of good works is, as have already been stated, a form of self righteousness.

Rather then compete on who has THE INTERPREATION, or who is a real Christian and who will God save. These matters are of no concern to us, 'cause in the end, there is One Judge.

It matters who is real and who is not. It matters who God will save and who He won't. That One Judge expects those who know the truth to tell the ones that don't know it, so that they may have a fighting chance for repentance. We shouldn't be concerned with interpretation - rather understanding anyways.
 
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peaceful soul said:
Stopping people from doing evil isn't going to make evil go away. For some reason, too much of this world fails to see the real problem.
Ummm so your solution to bring world peace is everyone becoming Christian? Now how realistic is that in today's world? Granted, it will happen (or something is!) when Christ comes back, but we're supposed to sit back and wait for him?


Each of us has a sinful nature in us, and until that is removed from us, we will always be at odds with each other. That's the reason that Christ's message on salvation is so important.
I don't agree that we're all bad from birth. How do you explain the fact that there are GOOD non-christian people out there if Christ is the only way to be good? We have an equal capacity for good and evil. And God endowed us with reason, intellect and a freedom to choose between good and evil. To say that we're naturally sinful and need an exterior force to make us good is to reject these 3 gifts that God gave us.



Man is outright a fool! He thinks he has solutions for the world. He uses his worldly knowledge and wisdom to come to conclusions. He's a fool because he denies his sin and can't come to terms that, it is he, that is the problem. It has to be something else that is responsible for what he does or don't doesn't and not him.
I shall turn away from My Signs (proofs, evidences, scriptures, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), those who behave arrogantly on the earth, without a right. And (even) if they see all the Signs they will not believe in them. And if they see the way of righteousness (monotheism, piety, and good deeds), they will not adopt it as the Way, but if they see the way of error (polytheism, crimes and evil deeds), they will adopt that way, that is because they have rejected Our Signs and were heedless (to learn a lesson) from them. (Qur'an 7:146)


How many good deeds must you do? Are you counting them and keeping a list?
God knows all, He has His own record of all things. I know that my evil deeds will be punished, but that my good deeds will earn me 10 times the reward! So just do what you can! Even a smile is considered a good deed! That is how easy God wants to make the Way to Him. He is Merciful and Loves us. Why gives a narrow path, when He can give us a Straight Path.



Again, the problem is sin which is produced from our sinful nature. It can only be dealt with on a spiritual level - not social, economical or political level. Until the world addresses that problem, good luck. Competing on the basis of good works is, as have already been stated, a form of self righteousness.
Only in your conception of Original Sin. You don't inherit sin, you acquire it. Peace can be brought to the hearts of mankind through belief in God. We earn our Salvation through our deeds. If a religion speaks to the spiritual, social, ecnomic and politic aspects of a people, it will affect all those levels and bring about progress. Just look at the first 1000 years of Islam's history. We call it the Golden Age, because it was indeed.



That One Judge expects those who know the truth to tell the ones that don't know it, so that they may have a fighting chance for repentance. We shouldn't be concerned with interpretation - rather understanding anyways.
So understand my Way. Are Judaism, Christianity and Islam not the three Abrahamic faiths? Was Abraham not a strict monotheist? Islam is nothing but the same religion of Abraham, Submission to God. A Muslim is one who submits to God and none other. Muhammad didn't teach us anything new! His mission was to bring us the Qur'an. This Book is Our Saviour since only a Book can be kept among us till the end of time, whereas a Messenger or Prophet dies, like all men.

And who turns away from the religion of Abraham, except him who befools himself? Truly, We chose him in this world and verily, in the Hereafter he will be among the righteous. (Qur'an 2:130)
 
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Mo.mentum-narrow? Absolutely! That is, restricted only to the authority of God's word. And what you're saying isn't what is revealed in His word.

tcampen said:
Such diversity is an affront to those who MUST be right in matters of spiritual faith, not to God.

The Bible is God's word. So an affront to one who brings God's word is an affront to the God who sent that word.

tcampen said:
Ah yes, the "it's not what I believe, but what God says" approach. I do not give such a position any credence whatsoever. You pick and choose what you want to believe as much as the next person, but perhaps will not or cannot admit it. If your position were true, than all other Christians that differed with any of your positions about god, yet make the same claim, must necessarily be incorrect. That would make you a SUPER-Christian, above all others. Sorry, but I have seen no reason to believe that YOUR interpretation of God is THE interpretation of God. Keep in mind, it is YOUR interpretation. Period.

And yet you never give any authority on any of your claims, not have you disproven my statements. Another cosmetic argument. :sigh:

tcampen said:
Suspicion, hate, intolerance, violence, persicution and oppression are not virtuous traits of God or anyone else with a good heart. Unfortunately, history has proven that holding onto the position of having an exclusive right to the Truth about god and his will, at the exclusion of all other who disagree, too often leads to these traits.

This is a projection. The most vile, hateful, abrasive, contradictory flames are from people who are not Christians, coming onto Christian turf to rage that they don't have the right to make their own rules. We're called narrow and arrogant and even bigoted, when we appeal to GOd's authority, by those who are angry because they want to be an authority unto themselves. All they care about is themselves and their feelings, not what is just and orderly and right in the eyes of their creator under whose authority they refuse to submit. So, we get arguments about flood eveidence, and dismissals based on limited information, and everything else under the sun when they won't just come out and say it: they hate God. They refuse to be subject even to an omnipotent Creator. I call that positively "unwise."

Moreover, aren't you here debating to be right? ;) It's a lost battle, I tell you: no one can win over the truth of Jesus Christ. He is eternally intelligent. All of us human peanuts down here-how can we win over our Creator? No human being has a chance against His revealed will. If he's eternally intelligent, wouldn't you rather walk with Him and see what He has to say?
 
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Ah yes, the "it's not what I believe, but what God says" approach. I do not give such a position any credence whatsoever. You pick and choose what you want to believe as much as the next person, but perhaps will not or cannot admit it. If your position were true, than all other Christians that differed with any of your positions about god, yet make the same claim, must necessarily be incorrect. That would make you a SUPER-Christian, above all others. Sorry, but I have seen no reason to believe that YOUR interpretation of God is THE interpretation of God. Keep in mind, it is YOUR interpretation. Period.
How about Paul's? Peter's? Christ's? Were they super-Christians? If the NT is so, then yes they were. So it boils down to whether the NT is so and whether, if you follow it your life will change. Your excuse for not finding out for yourself is "Hey you can't agree, so why should I bother?"

Nobody here is saying you have to believe what they do, except maybe some Catholic or fundy who says everyone else is gonna burn. The majority of us, especially Protestants will tell you to read it and test it for yourself. Do you really imagine that God won't let you know in some tangible way whether you have found him or not?

That is why I say that, without exception, anyone who has really found God will NEVER deny he is real- even apostates. YOU say God can't be proven. But no one who has experienced the "rivers of living water" or speaking in tongues, or who has seen a miracle themselves, ever denies God. They may deny God is still with them, but they do not deny God. That's how I know you have not really searched for God. "He who seeks will find."

You cannot find an exception to these rules- i.e someone saying "I experienced all that stuff and decided I was just deluded." It doesn't happen and it is presumptious to say they are deluded until you can prove it.

Who cares what I believe? Who cares what you believe? God could care less. In fact beliefs are a hindrance to knowing God for he can hardly be described or found practicing some dumb ritual. Did Paul speak in tongues and work miracles and have supernatural knowledge. That is the question, for he certainly is a super-Christian if he did, and he obviously knew what you need to know. Prove the phenomena do not exist, or ask God to manifest himself in the same way if that is your requirement. But don't whine that there is no way to know.

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Ummm so your solution to bring world peace is everyone becoming Christian? Now how realistic is that in today's world? Granted, it will happen (or something is!) when Christ comes back, but we're supposed to sit back and wait for him?

You are looking this the wrong way. This isn't about being a Christian - it is about submitting to the authority, Jesus Christ and living the Truth. The Christianity part is just a label. Focus on the message and not the label.

It's not my solution anyway. I would not advocate sitting back and waiting. Those who are doing the Will of God need to continue and do what God commands, spread the Gospel.
If you feel you need to do something, by all means, go and do it.

I don't agree that we're all bad from birth. How do you explain the fact that there are GOOD non-christian people out there if Christ is the only way to be good? We have an equal capacity for good and evil. And God endowed us with reason, intellect and a freedom to choose between good and evil. To say that we're naturally sinful and need an exterior force to make us good is to reject these 3 gifts that God gave us.

Being born with sin does not equate to bad person. Bad logic. Sin implies a state of imperfection which can lead to evil acts if not harnessed. Some people do become evil, but evil is a worst case situation. I would guess that most people just do wrongful things with no intention to harm. All sin eventually leads to some form of corruption. It is just unavoidable.

We don't have an equal capacity to do evil. This is not a table of probabilities, unfortuately. A lot depends upon your upbringing. God blesses us all with gifts. It's not like he just says, I'll only be good to those who do what I say.

Christians are not the only way to do good. It's not my fault that Christ preached the Truth and that the term Christian came about. All I'm saying is the fruits of the Holy Spirit are the only ones that have any eternal value. All other works can be good and have a great impact on this world. A christian's life is not to be based upon this world, but in the Spiritual world, the unseen.

God knows all, He has His own record of all things. I know that my evil deeds will be punished, but that my good deeds will earn me 10 times the reward! So just do what you can! Even a smile is considered a good deed! That is how easy God wants to make the Way to Him. He is Merciful and Loves us. Why gives a narrow path, when He can give us a Straight Path.

Jesus gave us both a straight and narrow path. Why narrow? Because there is only one entrance, through Jesus Christ (JMO).

Only in your conception of Original Sin. You don't inherit sin, you acquire it. Peace can be brought to the hearts of mankind through belief in God.

You talk about easy; belief is just that. It takes very little mental exercise to believe - how passive. Faith is full of power - very active. Faith engages the mind to make a choice and the body to respond. It takes courage to make a choice and stick with it.

So understand my Way. Are Judaism, Christianity and Islam not the three Abrahamic faiths? Was Abraham not a strict monotheist? Islam is nothing but the same religion of Abraham, Submission to God. A Muslim is one who submits to God and none other.

They may have similar roots, but that is where the similarity ends. Submission to God in Islam is quite different than that of Christianity, for example.

Muhammad didn't teach us anything new! His mission was to bring us the Qur'an. This Book is Our Saviour since only a Book can be kept among us till the end of time, whereas a Messenger or Prophet dies, like all men.

All prophets died except one, Jesus Christ. That is what Islam denies. To accept it would be the destruction of Islam. Accepting the resurrection would mean________________?


John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.
 
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peaceful soul said:
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You are looking this the wrong way. This isn't about being a Christian - it is about submitting to the authority, Jesus Christ and living the Truth. The Christianity part is just a label. Focus on the message and not the label.
The message sola scriptura, you mean to say, eh?

It's not my solution anyway. I would not advocate sitting back and waiting. Those who are doing the Will of God need to continue and do what God commands, spread the Gospel.
Well, according to Ninian Smart, Houston Smith, Philip Quinn, Keith Yandell, James Cutsinger, Keith Ward, Gavin D'Costa, John Hick (I can go on here....) the problem of Religious Diversity is not so easily solved. What you said is "hand-waving" at the problem.

Being born with sin does not equate to bad person. Bad logic. Sin implies a state of imperfection which can lead to evil acts if not harnessed. Some people do become evil, but evil is a worst case situation. I would guess that most people just do wrongful things with no intention to harm. All sin eventually leads to some form of corruption. It is just unavoidable.
Prove: born with sin.

We don't have an equal capacity to do evil. This is not a table of probabilities, unfortuately. A lot depends upon your upbringing. God blesses us all with gifts. It's not like he just says, I'll only be good to those who do what I say.
Yeah, upbringing - environment... hence, religious diversity.

Christians are not the only way to do good. It's not my fault that Christ preached the Truth and that the term Christian came about. All I'm saying is the fruits of the Holy Spirit are the only ones that have any eternal value. All other works can be good and have a great impact on this world. A christian's life is not to be based upon this world, but in the Spiritual world, the unseen.
Standard Christianity, okay... I understand this part.

Jesus gave us both a straight and narrow path. Why narrow? Because there is only one entrance, through Jesus Christ (JMO).
How certain are we of this? Your position, then, is hard exclusivism... which is untenable for a God of the monotheistic magnitude.

You talk about easy; belief is just that. It takes very little mental exercise to believe - how passive. Faith is full of power - very active. Faith engages the mind to make a choice and the body to respond. It takes courage to make a choice and stick with it.
Faith and belief can neither be forced onto someone, nor can someone force themselves - in fact, is not "faith" a grace of God???

They may have similar roots, but that is where the similarity ends. Submission to God in Islam is quite different than that of Christianity, for example.
Have you any understanding of "Islam" "Iman" or "Ihsan" ? What about Sufism? I don't think that Islam is all that different in its "submission to God."

All prophets died except one, Jesus Christ. That is what Islam denies. To accept it would be the destruction of Islam. Accepting the resurrection would mean________________?
It would MEAN that Jesus was resurrected. No more no less.
 
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The message sola scriptura, you mean to say, eh?

Explain.

Well, according to Ninian Smart, Houston Smith, Philip Quinn, Keith Yandell, James Cutsinger, Keith Ward, Gavin D'Costa, John Hick (I can go on here....) the problem of Religious Diversity is not so easily solved. What you said is "hand-waving" at the problem.

I'm not totally sure what you mean. I'm guessing: religious diversity? or spreading the Gospel?

Prove: born with sin.

You living in it right now. If you don't recongize, then may God help you. Curses were put on Adam & Eve for disobedience in the Garden and one of them was sin. This curse was placed upon all of their offspring.

How certain are we of this? Your position, then, is hard exclusivism... which is untenable for a God of the monotheistic magnitude.

To be monotheistic, only a beilef in one god is necessary. It doesn't imply that it has to cater to all people within it's jurisdiction. You are implying that God has to fit man's expectations. Christianity is not exclusivism - just the opposite. You need no religion, race or cultural identification to be accepted. Jesus' message was always 'come as you are'. I feel that you and countless others who keep talking about being exclusive, really resent that Jesus is the only path to righteousness. I can somewhat understand because it sounds like arrogance. Yielding to His authority is a hard pill to swallow. I could be wrong in my assumption. It is easier for a religion to conform to a one-size-fits all approach, but not for the Truth. It can not be compromised in that way.

Jesus doesn't ask for a lot; he just wants to make sure that you are business. The way he knows that is if you are willing to take Him at His word and act in faith on it. If you don't have the courage to do that, then you're out!! Even if you strike out once, you still get another chance to bat.


Faith and belief can neither be forced onto someone, nor can someone force themselves - in fact, is not "faith" a grace of God???

Did I say that? Faith is a gift of God. God gives everyone a certain measure of it.

Have you any understanding of "Islam" "Iman" or "Ihsan" ? What about Sufism? I don't think that Islam is all that different in its "submission to God."

I have limited knowledge of Islam.

In Christianity, submission to God comes through the Holy Spirit and it is purely spriitual. The Holy Spirit gives Christians that oughtness to obey God. There are no rituals involved unless you personally choose to. Those are 2 things for starters.

It would MEAN that Jesus was resurrected. No more no less.[/QUOTE]

If He was resurrected, then He is in an exclusive club. Did Mohammed do that, Budah or any other? The resurrection is what ended the Old Covenant and started the New Covenant which gave rise to Christianity.
 
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Christianity is not exclusivism - just the opposite. You need no religion, race or cultural identification to be accepted. Jesus' message was always 'come as you are'. I feel that you and countless others who keep talking about being exclusive, really resent that Jesus is the only path to righteousness.
It is difficult to imagine a greater contradiction than that expressed here. I am at a loss in understanding how one can assert "Christianity is not exclusivism" and "Jesus is the only path to righteousness" in the same breath. These are mutually exclusive concepts, so this assertion is utterly untenable.

Maybe Websters can help, since there may be some misunderstanding of the work "exclusive"

Main Entry: 1ex·clu·sive
Pronunciation: iks-'klü-siv, -ziv
Function: adjective
Date: 1515
1 a : excluding or having power to exclude b : limiting or limited to possession, control, or use by a single individual or group
2 a : excluding others from participation b : snobbishly aloof
3 a : accepting or soliciting only a socially restricted patronage (as of the upper class) b : [size=-1]STYLISH[/size], [size=-1]FASHIONABLE[/size] c : restricted in distribution, use, or appeal because of expense

Main Entry: 2exclusive
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
: something exclusive: as a : a newspaper story at first released to or printed by only one newspaper b : an exclusive right (as to sell a particular product in a certain area)


You see, by claiming "Jesus is the only path to righteousness" you are making a very exclusive claim of what religious faith is correct, at the exclusion of all others that differ. I hope this helps clear up your confusion.
 
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peaceful soul said:
To be monotheistic, only a beilef in one god is necessary. It doesn't imply that it has to cater to all people within it's jurisdiction. You are implying that God has to fit man's expectations. Christianity is not exclusivism - just the opposite. You need no religion, race or cultural identification to be accepted. Jesus' message was always 'come as you are'. I feel that you and countless others who keep talking about being exclusive, really resent that Jesus is the only path to righteousness. I can somewhat understand because it sounds like arrogance. Yielding to His authority is a hard pill to swallow. I could be wrong in my assumption. It is easier for a religion to conform to a one-size-fits all approach, but not for the Truth. It can not be compromised in that way.
Matthew 7:13-14
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


The posts that you have left are right on Peaceful Soul. You have made your point very well. So I'll Just leave the scripture for them to read and let your post stand on that.
 
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April218782 said:
I have a question sort of off topic. I was just wondering if someone could tell me the main differences between islam and christianity. Ive been doing a bit of research on it and I can't come to any answers for myself. Thanks a bundle ya'll

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April, Muslims and Christians believe in the same prophets and the same Gods. The two seperate when it comes to the divinity of Christ and the authenticity of Muhammad.

Muslims believe that God has been sending prophets to mankind since Abraham in order to teach us about Him. But every time, the people would either rebel against their prophets or believe, and a few generations later fall back into idolatry. We believe in Jesus, he is the Word of God in flesh, but we don't agree about him being the Son of God. Our Lord and Your Lord is One. We gain access to paradise by doing good deeds and believing in God. The prophethood Muhammad is seen as the "Seal" of Prophets. The last testament to mankind from God and he brought us the Qur'an, or the "Recited Text". It is the pure and direct Word of God in the letter.
 
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