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Hi all,

My marriage is in deep trouble. In a 3 year old union my H and I have lived separately for more than 2.6 years mostlx due to my husband walking out on me and our son time and again to go live with his parents who are against us being together.
We have problems ranging from abuse to infidelity on his part. He doesnt wish to take corrective measures and is an atheist.
He doesnt want a legal separation. There is no contact during these periods of separation and its a cycle of him walking in after months of trying on my part and leaving again.
Any thoughts please?
I would appreciate if people who have had their marriages restored would share their experiences on how it came about and the trials they faced. I am standing in prayer but sometimes wonder if hanging on is right.
Thanks!
 
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Do you want your marriage restored? If so, why? What motivates you, particularly since there is abuse and infidelity?

I would also be curious why he does not want a separation or divorce. If he keeps on leaving, there has to be a reason for him to keep leaving. And what keeps bringing him back after months? Does he want restoration (not just coming home, but also restoration from an abusive and adulterous past)?
 
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Hi,
I think its prayer that gives me hope that my husband will mend his ways though prospects look very bleak.
He is unwilling to accept his faults and though he promises to stop the abuse, he reverts to it. He shifts blame on me for everything that ails our marriage.
For instance, when i see he is unaffectionate even to his son, i remark to that effect he says i 'nag' him and that gets the abuse started and he walks out.
Or he is always
uncommunicative and prefers to be 'left alone' Try to strike a conversation, same result. Ask why he is so late in coming home, same result. The list goes on and as dicey as they may sound, he justifies himself and his behaviour with some excuse or the other.
Doesnt help that his family keeps drawing him away.
He returns after i keep at it and its the same cycle again. There is no contact even when we are separated and this time around i too havent kept up my one sided efforts at communication. We are separated yet again.
He still doesnt want to go legal. Claims he wants to give me(!!!) a chance to be commited to the union and reform!
 
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Well, it seems like i've almost reached the end of my rope and am ready to give up but just then i hear an inspirational story about a restored marriage.
Moreover, at times i think whether if at all he may have genuine affinity towards the union which will come with time as he has returned home though i cant say to make amends as such.
But then, i realize that i cant play the wait and watch routine forever, this has to conclude and have made it clear to him too but he says he wont agree to a legal separation even if i went ahead and filed.
 
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If he's abusing you, especially in front of your son, or as a result of your son, or in any proximity of your son (visual, auditory), then you owe it to your son to get out. At that point, it's not about the marriage, it's about keeping yourself and your child safe. A man who's unaffectionate to his son and abusive to his wife is a man who, in every probability, will do to the son what he does to the mother. And even if he doesn't, your son will be impacted in pretty much the most negative way possible.

If you're looking for stories of reconciled, happy marriages where one party abuses the other, does it for years, and isn't particularly bothered by it, until suddenly one day the zapping of common sense that's inherent in most normal people that tells the abuser "Hey, I shouldn't be doing this" and causes a complete 180... You're not going to find it.

There is a reason.

There comes a time where what you're dealing with is so dangerous that wanting your marriage to be fixed isn't moral or ethical. I believe you've hit that point.

Get. Out. Get out yesterday. Get yourself protected legally, get custody of your son protected legally. Get child support hammered out. Focus on your son and do not allow that man's behavior to influence the type of man your son will eventually become.

Get out. Get out. Get out.
 
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TW, i see where you are coming from but i made it clear way back to him about zero tolerance on abuse and either way since H&I are separated, i'm rid of that unhealthy environment. And this time around i too aint doing the talking bit.
Maybe i'm procrastinating about taking the first legal step. It seems he is simply stringing me along.
 
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You say this, but you are considering holding out for him. You made clear this is a cycle. Zero tolerance means you don't allow it and if it does, you're done, no if, ands, or buts. Not that if it happens, you're done until he says he's ready to come back and not do it again, knowing it'll happen again.

I say again, get out.
 
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Yes, its a vicious loop though i can say the abuse is definitely lessening (if such a thing can be considered.) So maybe given time, God may lead him back on the right path. Like i said, we are presently separated so nothing to fear by way of abuse.
I have drawn a very firm line regards abuse and it may very well be me who sees to it that it doesnt escalate with me or our son physically there rather than him changing but i dont know for sure. My mind isnt made up and I am praying for guidance too.
PS... i read somewhere that you are training for a marathon TW. Hows it going?
 
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Yes, its a vicious loop though i can say the abuse is definitely lessening (if such a thing can be considered.) So maybe given time, God may lead him back on the right path. Like i said, we are presently separated so nothing to fear by way of abuse.
I have drawn a very firm line regards abuse and it may very well be me who sees to it that it doesnt escalate with me or our son physically there rather than him changing but i dont know for sure. My mind isnt made up and I am praying for guidance too.

Here's the thing though... Saying that the abuse is lessened means little in the grand scheme of things when it shouldn't exist at all. It's like being happy that instead of being pushed down 20 stairs, he now pushes you down 10. The fact that he pushed you at all is where the issue lies. If your job is a wife is to be that of a bouncer, where you see it as your job to prevent the abuse from escalating or being inflicted on your son should your husband come back, then what you have isn't a functional marriage. No spouse's job should be to make sure the other isn't harming the family in a way that basic common sense is most people is inappropriate. Wives worry about taking care of their families, providing, creating a nurturing environment, they think about things like getting the kids to school or what to do for their husband's birthday... They don't say "I can prevent his abuse if I just make sure I follow the rules." The fact that you're even entertaining the idea of waiting to give it another shot shows that, while you're safe now, the right words later and you'll be in the same place you were before.

I'm so sorry, but I've worked with battered women, and battered women aren't just physically abused, they're also women who've been mentally abused. I'm so, so, so sorry to say this, but you sound like every battered woman I've ever, ever worked with in my entire life. A woman who's a fixer by nature, a nurturer to a fault, who just wants to make sure everything is OK. Fear that by saying it's not and taking steps to protect yourself, that either you're inviting more abuse, or you're admitting to the world you've failed. Or, for some women, the fear of outing their husband as an abuser. This almost crippling fear being perceived as a quitter, a failure for walking away, or for doing what you have to do, personally or legally, to make sure you're safe. That your family is safe. You take the small, insignificant things, and turn them into victories... "He said he wouldn't do it anymore." "Before, he would have done X, but now he only does Y." "I told him he has to treat me well and he said he will." Or, I kid you not, the most common "He's getting better." and "I've laid down the law, he knows if he does it again, he's done."

The fact is, if he knew you were serious, he wouldn't have done it twice, three times, four times... It would have been a fluke instead of a trend, a cycle, or something you have to accommodate or ask others if it'll ever change. He knows you're still going to take him back this time, and he knows when he abuses you again, you'll take him back next time as long as he promises to never do it again, even if neither of you don't believe it.

The single strongest thing you can do as a woman and a mother is to really put your foot down, say no more, and march yourself to court to get your rights protected. To get the rights of your child protected. It's freaking hard to muster up the courage to do it, to make a real stand, to put your money where your mouth is and say "NO, this time I mean it... Last chance, you're done." I'm not even joking when I've seen women reduced to incoherent tears over it... And that's how before, everybody knows the other times, when you were "serious" about it never happening again... You allowed some wiggle room. Now, you're serious.

If you want any semblance of normal life, with or without him, you have to prove to everybody, yourself, himself, your son, that this time, you're deadly serious. That this time, you're going to make sure it doesn't happen again. You get a lawyer that helps women who're in marriages such as yours, you get a DVP, which can apply to non-physical abuse, you get no-contact orders, you structure mediation, you do something that says "here is what you have to do to earn your way back into the family." He'll never straighten out on his own, he'll need a motivator to do it, and this will be the big tell... He'll either see the steps you've taken and know that the cycle is now officially broken, he needs to make a choice on either manning up or getting out, or he'll freak the heck out, hate you, be livid over the steps you took, and never want to have anything to do with you again... In which case, as painful as it sounds, you then have proof that there was no way on earth that he ever, ever was going to change. You were going to be another stop in a constant cycle from now until he died.

Either way, you either have your life back, and you'll know for sure if when he says he's serious it'll never happen again, that it really won't. Then instead of having a crap, abusive father to look up to, your son will have the most amazing, the strongest, the fiercest mother to look up to... A woman who says that you will treat a woman like a woman, you will love your wife as a husband should, that your relationship will be modeled after the love that God has for all of us, and if not, she'll step up like a warrior to do what she has to do to keep herself and her family safe.

1−800−799−SAFE(7233) is the phone number of the National Domestic Abuse Hotline. They give the most fabulous advice and support, with women who've been there, done that. Even if you're calling to talk, talk to them. You'll find they're a fabulous resource.

PS... i read somewhere that you are training for a marathon TW. Hows it going?[/quote]

Really well, thanks for asking. I can now run at a decent trot for 5 miles, pretty good for somebody who was so ill that walking was a trick some days. :)
 
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Been there, done that, got the bloody T-shirt and maybe learned something department:

For the moment, the abuse is lessening. I hate to say this, but, that's to be expected. It follows a pattern, actually a cycle. Right now, he's trying to be decent to win you back. When he's got you again, expect the level of abuse to increase. You can count on that like you can count on the daily cycle of sunrise/sunset. I could wish it weren't so, but personal experience plus looking up information on the subject shows that it's all too so.

Now, you have to decide, for yourself and your child, how much you're going to take and what you're going to do about it.
 
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Thanks for your replies. Yes, i've read 'once an abuser always an abuser' or something to the effect that abuse doesnt really stop.
Does that mean there are none who have restored marriages reeling from abuse for the better? Like a vice, I would think the abuse will not disappear overnight it will take time to be rectified given the right facilitation. Or maybe thats speculation! I am in a safe place now away from him.

TW, I appreciate your inputs but am afraid have to differ on a few points. Like, i definitely dont think i exhibit the signs of an abused woman or someone who blames herself for all thats going wrong in the marriage. And the same is said to me by my support group who also say that i shouldnt have remained in that situation for so long. So yes, I've recognized albeit a little late the pattern and can say there is no way I'll put myself&my child in circumstances where there will be a repeat of this cycle henceforth. Lets see how it pans out. Am in a safe place now. Will have to decide soon about the legalities as it seems to be a given that the pattern of abuse will continue.
 
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