So, at the moment of fertilization when 23 chromosomes from the mother and father pair up, what do you have? Most scientists, as well as science books, will tell you that you have a human being. This zygote, which is what a fertilized egg is called, has everything it needs to be identified as a human being....not a horse, not a pig,.....a human being. So it seems that conception is the point that determines when a human being exists and not some indeterminate point later down the line. Don't believe me; go investigate for yourself before making a decision on whether abortion is killing and innocent human being. I understand you are not a believer but we will all stand before God someday and receive His judgement for our lives....abortion is an easy one to not stand judgement for.....
I don't want to argue with you, but what about if some of the genes are missing?
I was very surprised once here on CF to find a person that thought original sin was physically inherited in genes. Isn't there something called a 'soul' and something called a 'spirit' (I'm being rhetorical, because I know you agree souls and spirits are real).
This isn't a small thing, about what is physical and what is not physical...
This spirit, from God,
isn't the body,
isn't physical:
Ecclesiastes 12:7 before the dust returns to the ground from which it came, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
The spirit is
not the body.
When the body returns to dust, the spirit goes back to God, Who gave it into the dust body, temporarily.
Why does this point matter. It matters because we don't know from scripture when the spirit is put into the body, but only know that the spirit exists before the body does:
Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I set you apart and appointed you a prophet to the nations."
"before" -- spirit exists before the body in which it will be placed.
This is all deeply relevant to this whole question, of course. It's not the temporary dust body we are to place our hope in, but in God. Would God put a spirit into a fertilized egg He knows is only going to die just a few days later?
In nature, 50 percent of all fertilized eggs are lost before a woman's missed menses.
Conception: How It Works
These usually flawed fertilized eggs are naturally aborted by the body, as God designed.
Would He put a spirit into a fertilized egg He can see is going to die naturally? I don't think that would fit what we know of God.
The soul, which seems to be the outcome of the spirit lived in a body, seems associated to consciousness, and when consciousness is finally ended comprehensively (including the level called 'unconscious' like dreaming and such), the soul departs the body.
But consciousness doesn't begin in a developing baby until at the very earliest 6 weeks, but probably more like 12 --
Some people are concerned with abortions after six weeks of pregnancy because that is when a basic spinal cord and nervous system first develop, but it is not until week eight (six weeks post-fertilisation) that the first rudimentary brain activity – the kind that is observed in organisms as simple as insects – can be observed. The very beginnings of our higher brain structures only start to appear between weeks 12 and 16.
The moment a baby’s brain starts to function, and other scientific answers on abortion
Pro life is the key to it. The other issues are mostly paranoid fantasies spun by the right and can be dealt with (gun control) or which have become less important to a younger demographic than aging conservative leadership will admit (LGBT). But abortion is the issue and I think it's time the Left made a strategic retreat. How many times have I heard (and many of you too, I'll bet) "I like some of the things Democrats stand for but they're baby-killers and I can't vote for them."? If the Democrats dropped their militant pro-choice stance, Doofuss Donald wouldn't have a chance, and a lot of his sycophants in the Senate wouldn't either.
And what's the downside? Not much. Middle-class and wealthy women have always had access to medically safe abortions and always will, no matter what laws get passed. Increasingly, the ready availability of pharmaceuticals means that working-class women will too--no more straightened out coathanger wire in a back alley.
It's sure fire, if the Left had the guts to do it.
