It is something I feel GOD put me here for, to try and break down the walls between churches and help unite all christians to bring this world he created back to him.
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How To Unite Christians Worldwide!
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daveleau
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I feel this is paramount as well.
We need to regain our focus on the Bible instead of the world and the men in it. We need a united front in those that are closely like-minded to the Scriptures to make a concerted effort to break down barriers. This should begin by first stopping all derogatory talk of other denominations. We can say where a denomination goes wrong, but to be judgmental is wrong. All divisions of Christianity (not of Protestantism, or Catholic, or Orthodoxy, but of Christianity) have a belief that their leaders hold that is in contrast to Scripture. In this, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. It seems that all divisions have a huge amount of pride (not Scriptural humility, but pride) in the fact that they are the True Church and are immune to error. This is ironic, because the pride they feel in asserting their inerrancy is a sin in itself.
The walls are often referred as being differences in interpretation, but that is a minor issue. The true problem is closed-mindedness and reliance on tradition and pride reigning in the church instead letting Scripture be the focus. Church leaders often preach the message of 1 Cor 1:12, but in the same breath say that they are X division and are more correct than others.
We should all know that Christ is the head of the Church and that He does not exclude anyone that comes to Him because they came from any of our divisions. Scripture is clear that we must be baptized and accept Christ as our Savior. People debate whether we need to be baptized in water, or if it is the Spirit who baptizes. People debate over whether a sprinkle is enough or if we should be dunked. People debate as to whether the water must be blessed by a man or if it should be freshly running water in a stream. WE ARE MISSING THE POINT because we are so focused on the minutia. God is in the details, but He does not care about our outwardly details as long as our heart is pure and we obey Him. We are not going to Hell simply because we did not get baptized in the right way. We are not going to Hell because we took communion this way or that way. As long as the focus is on Christ and not on ulterior motives, we are going to be blessed!
The walls are constructed by Man with Satan's materials- and our ability to reach the World has been severely affected by our infighting. We need to stop it NOW. We need to stop our prideful assertions that we are right and all others are wrong. We need to come together and forget who was first, or who was last. We need to stop worrying what others outside of Scripture have said about this denomination or that. We need to focus on Scripture and let it lead us to outside writing if God wants us there. We need to take God's Word at face value and stop saying- well, we need to be more tolerant of these or those people's actions because of what the world will think. The reality is that we are to love everyone, but are to discern right from wrong and try to keep each other from breaking the Word of God.
Wow. That was a lot longer than I had planned. I thank God for His Word.
God bless you and God's Church- called the Christians.
Dave
PS- After rereading, in saying denominations, I do not mean Protestant denominations, but divisions within Christianity.
We need to regain our focus on the Bible instead of the world and the men in it. We need a united front in those that are closely like-minded to the Scriptures to make a concerted effort to break down barriers. This should begin by first stopping all derogatory talk of other denominations. We can say where a denomination goes wrong, but to be judgmental is wrong. All divisions of Christianity (not of Protestantism, or Catholic, or Orthodoxy, but of Christianity) have a belief that their leaders hold that is in contrast to Scripture. In this, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. It seems that all divisions have a huge amount of pride (not Scriptural humility, but pride) in the fact that they are the True Church and are immune to error. This is ironic, because the pride they feel in asserting their inerrancy is a sin in itself.
The walls are often referred as being differences in interpretation, but that is a minor issue. The true problem is closed-mindedness and reliance on tradition and pride reigning in the church instead letting Scripture be the focus. Church leaders often preach the message of 1 Cor 1:12, but in the same breath say that they are X division and are more correct than others.
We should all know that Christ is the head of the Church and that He does not exclude anyone that comes to Him because they came from any of our divisions. Scripture is clear that we must be baptized and accept Christ as our Savior. People debate whether we need to be baptized in water, or if it is the Spirit who baptizes. People debate over whether a sprinkle is enough or if we should be dunked. People debate as to whether the water must be blessed by a man or if it should be freshly running water in a stream. WE ARE MISSING THE POINT because we are so focused on the minutia. God is in the details, but He does not care about our outwardly details as long as our heart is pure and we obey Him. We are not going to Hell simply because we did not get baptized in the right way. We are not going to Hell because we took communion this way or that way. As long as the focus is on Christ and not on ulterior motives, we are going to be blessed!
The walls are constructed by Man with Satan's materials- and our ability to reach the World has been severely affected by our infighting. We need to stop it NOW. We need to stop our prideful assertions that we are right and all others are wrong. We need to come together and forget who was first, or who was last. We need to stop worrying what others outside of Scripture have said about this denomination or that. We need to focus on Scripture and let it lead us to outside writing if God wants us there. We need to take God's Word at face value and stop saying- well, we need to be more tolerant of these or those people's actions because of what the world will think. The reality is that we are to love everyone, but are to discern right from wrong and try to keep each other from breaking the Word of God.
Wow. That was a lot longer than I had planned. I thank God for His Word.
God bless you and God's Church- called the Christians.
Dave
PS- After rereading, in saying denominations, I do not mean Protestant denominations, but divisions within Christianity.
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I very much agree with most of what you said daveleau. I feel called to a similar goal as ONE,WHO,REMAINS. But, I think we need to formulate a step by step plan. Right here right now. I will get to work immediately.
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You probably already belong to a "recovery church" and read things by that guy Witness Lee.
Christians all over the world are NOT broken apart. We may have some theological disagreements here and there, but most of us believe in salvation through Jesus Christ. There are exceptions of course, many of which arent considered Chrsitian by most, like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists. But mostly we are one body I think. To break down the "walls" you have to see them first.
Christians all over the world are NOT broken apart. We may have some theological disagreements here and there, but most of us believe in salvation through Jesus Christ. There are exceptions of course, many of which arent considered Chrsitian by most, like Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists. But mostly we are one body I think. To break down the "walls" you have to see them first.
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Anti-Fear so there is no wall between Protestants and Catholics?
The number of times I've heard Catholics called evil...
The number of times I've heard Catholics called evil...
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Well, I believe I have a first step figured out. We need to hold a huge unity council, representing all denominations. I am putting together a list of topics for it
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Yeah, but not everyone knows or wants to believe that. Look at the denominations.
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There are walls between Protestants and Catholics, Protestants and Protestants, Protestants and people who don't want to be called Protestants, Catholics and people who don't want to be called Protestants, Christians and Muslims.EdwardAnderson said:
And then there's that saying "don't take down fences until you know why they were put up." Unity would be wonderful, but it is too unrealistic to think that we're all in disagreement for no reason. Some of these disagreements are fundamental ones.
And yet we (Christians) are all one body, and one Church. But to reduce all of our differences to a pithy phrase does not reflect reality.
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Does it matter that we are in disagreement? Do we not hold the same Nicene Creed and fundamental truths? I think we have more in common then we think, or want to think.
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Therein lies a major problem! I personally (and many others) will not agree with any man-made creed such as the Nicene Creed...Sola Scriptura!Bizzlebin Imperatoris said:
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Yes. In some things it really does matter.Bizzlebin Imperatoris said:
I think it depends on what one considers "fundamental."
Oh we have a lot in common, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that there are (unfortunate) divisions for a reason.
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I am one for Sola Scriptura as well. Look again http://www.christianforums.com/faq.php?faq=rules#faq_no_co
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Salvation. What it means, and how it is obtained.Bizzlebin Imperatoris said:
Eucharist. What (or Whom) it is, and what effects it has.
Authority. Who has it, and who doesn't.
Scripture. What Christ really meant.
Those are just a few thoughts off-hand.
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