How to turn sinfulness into holiness

[MercyBurst]

What's all this fuss about a loving monogamous relationship? We're supposed to love everyone, and every sexual relationship is monogamous (though short-lived in some cases).

So we have two people that meet and find each other attractive, then they have sex. "Why that's morally wrong!" we hear from some of the gay-affirming diehards, and shacking-up cohabs.

So then the two spend some time with each other they have sex for a week, then a month. Just making sure all the machinery works ya know. Somewhere along the line, they sanctify their relationship by having enough sex. In wouldn't be monogamous unless sex was involved you see.

So now we have a blessed relationship ordained by God. It started out sinful but ended up holy, sanctified, and received God's seal of approval -- all through sexual repitition. A little bit is sinfil, but a whole lot -- well that is so sooooo very blessed.

A Little is Bad but Much Much More is Better, you see.

ahhh the irrational bliss of liberal theology.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

I'm sorry, I don't have a clue where you got your logic. Especially since most homosexuals and liberal argue that a relationship ISN'T about sex.

 

[Ohioprof]

I'm sorry, I don't have a clue where you got your logic. Especially since most homosexuals and liberal argue that a relationship ISN'T about sex.

I agree with you.

 

[MercyBurst]

I agree with you.

I agree with both of you. Monogamy has nothing to do with sex in the gay world, and everything to do with a mutually supportive, permissive relationship where you can shack-up with whoever but still come back home to your "partner" for "emotional support."

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

I agree with both of you. Monogamy has nothing to do with sex in the gay world, and everything to do with a mutually supportive, permissive relationship where you can shack-up with whoever but still come back home to your "partner" for "emotional support."

Right. Homosexuality is not the equivilant of promiscuity or sexuality. You know, gossip and false witness isn't good for your soul MercyBurst.

 

[MercyBurst]

Right. Homosexuality is not the equivilant of promiscuity or sexuality.

When you are doing it, I'm sure you don't see it that way. I don't believe even for a minute, that you'll be celibate until the day you find your partner for life.

You know, gossip and false witness isn't good for your soul MercyBurst.

Gay sex kills your soul.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

When you are doing it, I'm sure you don't see it that way. I don't believe even for a minute, that you'll be celibate until the day you find your partner for life.



Gay sex kills your soul.

Right. You keep believing that. Fortunately, I know that I'm about as interested in sex as I am in math. That's not very much by the way.

 

[naotmaa]

I agree with both of you. Monogamy has nothing to do with sex in the gay world, and everything to do with a mutually supportive, permissive relationship where you can shack-up with whoever but still come back home to your "partner" for "emotional support."

Wow. No. Many gay couples are faithful to each other both physically and emotionally.

You know, I think I know why certain christians like to spread and "believe" lies about homosexuality. Its because deep down they know that gay people are no different than straight people. That they are not the lustful, hedonistic "sodomites" they like to describe them as.
However, if they admit that, then they they would have to question why homosexuality is a sin in the first place. And of course, they don't want to do that. Shame.

That isn't to say that all christians who believe homsexuality to be a sin act this way. Some know how to respect others and not buy into silly lies.

 

[ALiberalTeen]

When you are doing it, I'm sure you don't see it that way. I don't believe even for a minute, that you'll be celibate until the day you find your partner for life.



Gay sex kills your soul.

My soul is gonna die if I have sex?

 

[ReformedChapin]

My soul is gonna die if I have sex?

Well if you were saved and had gay sex...then yes

 

[ALiberalTeen]

Well if you were saved and had gay sex...then yes

ummm...

how?

 

[BlueAfgani]

Gay sex kills your soul.

And stupidity is what, spinach?

Well if you were saved and had gay sex...then yes

Not that I really care what the source of this retardedness is, but does the Bible say anything about gay sex killing the soul?

 

[Ohioprof]

The way to turn sinfulness into holiness is for these "holier than thou" Christians to stop pointing fingers and throwing stones at gay people and look instead to removing the log from their own eyes. Then these Christians who pompously claim that our love is "sin" may stop their sinful stone throwing and judging of others. They will develop holiness that way.

It is not gay people who sin. It is the Christians who throw stones at gay people who sin.

 

[Phinehas2]

a relationship ISN'T about sex

Well if it isnt about sex what is a monogamous relationship about? Of course its about sex, the only monogamous relationship I have is sexual, I have loving relationships with many people, indeed the gospel calls for believers to love all people.

 

[Zaac]

What's all this fuss about a loving monogamous relationship? We're supposed to love everyone, and every sexual relationship is monogamous (though short-lived in some cases).

So we have two people that meet and find each other attractive, then they have sex. "Why that's morally wrong!" we hear from some of the gay-affirming diehards, and shacking-up cohabs.

So then the two spend some time with each other they have sex for a week, then a month. Just making sure all the machinery works ya know. Somewhere along the line, they sanctify their relationship by having enough sex. In wouldn't be monogamous unless sex was involved you see.

So now we have a blessed relationship ordained by God. It started out sinful but ended up holy, sanctified, and received God's seal of approval -- all through sexual repitition. A little bit is sinfil, but a whole lot -- well that is so sooooo very blessed.

A Little is Bad but Much Much More is Better, you see.

ahhh the irrational bliss of liberal theology.

I swear, you and I must havebeen separated at birth cause I asked someone essentially the very same thing the other day.

Liberal theology is right. That's exactly what you get when people do not accept God's Word as absolute truth.

 

[Zaac]

I'm sorry, I don't have a clue where you got your logic. Especially since most homosexuals and liberal argue that a relationship ISN'T about sex.

No. Several in this forum have defined a "relationship" as a monogamous, committed something as though any sin goes away because you're now committed to each other.

It's just like the heterosexual couple who have been together for two years and having sex only with each other. The guy has sex with another girl and his longterm, girlfriend with whom he is in a "relationship" says he CHEATED on her.

The reality is that he didn't cheat on her. He CHOSE to fornicate with someone else just as he had fornicated with her exclusively for the last two years.

Same thing applies to homosexual couples. If it's fornication the first time you do it, it's fornication the one hundreth time you do it.

 

[BlueAfgani]

Just different outlooks I guess. But I don't need a marriage licence for me to commit to a girl, and I would consider it cheating too.

It just an issue of formalities. God will understand in the end, and if he does, we'll then the afterlife is going to suck no matter where we up.

 

[Zaac]

Just different outlooks I guess. But I don't need a marriage licence for me to commit to a girl, and I would consider it cheating too.

It just an issue of formalities. God will understand in the end, and if he does, we'll then the afterlife is going to suck no matter where we up.

If you go to court here because you ran into the back of another car and got a ticket requesting you appear at court, is the judge just oing to be understanding or is he going to hold you responsible for the law you broke?

God is just. And a Just God will hold you responsible for the law you break.

There are no formalities when it comes to sin. Sin is always sin.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

No. Several in this forum have defined a "relationship" as a monogamous, committed something as though any sin goes away because you're now committed to each other.

It's just like the heterosexual couple who have been together for two years and having sex only with each other. The guy has sex with another girl and his longterm, girlfriend with whom he is in a "relationship" says he CHEATED on her.

The reality is that he didn't cheat on her. He CHOSE to fornicate with someone else just as he had fornicated with her exclusively for the last two years.

Same thing applies to homosexual couples. If it's fornication the first time you do it, it's fornication the one hundreth time you do it.

I believe you've misunderstanding then. Monogomous, trusting, everything you have in a heterosexual marriage. Obviously if someone cheats or tries to have more than relationship the entire thing falls apart. No liberal is trying to say that. So you either have a dire misunderstanding or are purposely trying to twist our words.

No liberal says cheating is okay. You only get that by twisting words and taking anecdotal situations.

 

[Zaac]

I believe you've misunderstanding then. Monogomous, trusting, everything you have in a heterosexual marriage.

Compare apples to apples. If you're not married, to be on the same page, I have to compare your unmarried homosexual relationship to an unmarried heterosexual relationship.

As such a monogamous, trusting long term heterosexual relationship that includes sex is just as fornicative as would be a a monogamous, trusting long term homosexual relationship that included sex.

Obviously if someone cheats or tries to have more than relationship the entire thing falls apart. No liberal is trying to say that. So you either have a dire misunderstanding or are purposely trying to twist our words.

Not twisting anything. Just making the point that's been made in several other threads that TIME does not change sin into something else.

If it is sin at the beginning, you doing it with the same person and only that person for the next 50 years ain't gonna change it to any less of a sin.

No liberal says cheating is okay. You only get that by twisting words and taking anecdotal situations.

Naah. Yall just think it's possible to get cheated on by someone you're fornicating with.