How to speak to satan

[Bluelion]

I would suggest that you do not say someone said something and mix it all up with your corrections. How confusing for your reading audience.
When quoting someone put "quotation marks" and indicate that it is paraphrased, around what they said. It would be helpful. So now I have no idea what she said at all. Now I see that you were merely telling us what you understood her to say and if there are any quotes that are paraphrased by you (which I thought was the case) they may only be her partial statements taken out of context. Sigh....

Yeah I did not go back and proof read what I wrote I went back now and made the correction. You only use quotations if it is a direct quote. the way I wrote it was confusing what Joyce said was, You better learn how to speak to satan if he is going to speak to you. He runs my husband down and says he is not good but i say but he is this and that and is good.
That is the whole of what Joyce said, the rest was what God showed me where her mistake was, but it is interesting how many people rejected it because they thought it came from her and I know the message is inline with the word of God. Some people will not even hear the word of God because they don't like the person.

 

[Hank77]

Yeah I did not go back and proof read what I wrote I went back now and made the correction. You only use quotations if it is a direct quote. the way I wrote it was confusing what Joyce said was, You better learn how to speak to satan if he is going to speak to you. He runs my husband down and says he is not good but i say but he is this and that and is good.
That is the whole of what Joyce said, the rest was what God showed me where her mistake was, but it is interesting how many people rejected it because they thought it came from her and I know the message is inline with the word of God. Some people will not even hear the word of God because they don't like the person.

Thanks for making the corrections. You can set other's speech apart and label it (para.). Use brackets, whatever will do. I sometimes quote scripture that is paraphrased, not word for word, and do label it as such.

It is interesting how people rejected it. I was not one who did, the message that is scriptural is good no matter who brings it, God even used a donkey.
So I agree with YOUR message, I think you were right on.

 

[Job8]

This thread is about speaking to Satan. Yet, we need to take all spiritual warfare into consideration. Yes, there are many who encourage people to speak directly to Satan, but the apostles did not give us this either by example or precept.

Ephesians 6 gives us the true picture, with prayer as one of the weapons of our warfare (which the Lord had already indicated, along with fasting), and Scripture as the OFFENSIVE weapon again the Arch Liar and Arch Deceiver. Our hearts and minds are the battleground, hence Paul exhorts us thus (2 Cor 10:3-5):

For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

When our thoughts are controlled by the Word of God and the Holy Spirit, they are indeed brought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. And that gives us victory over the Adversary (ha Satan).

 

[Bob1224]

Who is raising the dead nowadays in the name of Jesus Christ? A certain preacher claims that you can place your recently passed loved one in front of the tv and through Him, Jesus will bring back to life this dead human being. True or False? Is this man following the Lords suggestion to the letter. And Why would you want to bring back the dead? if the reward that awaits us is far better then life here on earth, what is the point in coming back. Jesus Christ and His disciples brought back the dead for a very express purpose and we all know what that was. So does anyone know of anyone that has come back from the dead? that has been raised from the dead not new death. and apart from our Lord Jesus Christ whom we all know to be alive and well. Praise God.

 

[Bob1224]

This thread is about speaking to Satan. Yet, we need to take all spiritual warfare into consideration. Yes, there are many who encourage people to speak directly to Satan, but the apostles did not give us this either by example or precept.

Ephesians 6 gives us the true picture, with prayer as one of the weapons of our warfare (which the Lord had already indicated, along with fasting), and Scripture as the OFFENSIVE weapon again the Arch Liar and Arch Deceiver. Our hearts and minds are the battleground, hence Paul exhorts us thus (2 Cor 10:3-5):


For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds. Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

When our thoughts are controlled by the Word of God and the Holy Spirit, they are indeed brought into captivity to the obedience of Christ. And that gives us victory over the Adversary (ha Satan).

 

[Bluelion]

Bob and Job, what are your objection or are you just arguing for argument sake?

Do you object that Jesus spoke to satan using God's word? The sword of God so to speak.
Do you object That Jesus cast out satan afterwards?
Do you object that People can do everything the disciples did if they followed God the same way?

Do you object that Jesus has given His children authority in His name?


Has anything I said been untrue? So what is your objection?

 

[Bluelion]

Thanks for making the corrections. You can set other's speech apart and label it (para.). Use brackets, whatever will do. I sometimes quote scripture that is paraphrased, not word for word, and do label it as such.

It is interesting how people rejected it. I was not one who did, the message that is scriptural is good no matter who brings it, God even used a donkey.
So I agree with YOUR message, I think you were right on.

Thanks hank I am still trying two figure out what these to are arguing over. It's a lot of talking but not saying anything if you ask me.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Do you object that Jesus has given His children authority in His name?
Has anything I said been untrue? So what is your objection?

Just watching from the sidelines, here. I never thought that first post was going to spark a debate. I totally expected the thread to die a swift death from people generally agreeing and not having much else to add, but I see I was wrong.

 

[Job8]

Bob and Job, what are your objection or are you just arguing for argument sake?

Simply objecting to Joyce Meyer's false teaching about approaching Satan and speaking to him. It could get people into trouble.

 

[Bob1224]

Good to raise the bar a little sometimes, most just never engage in a good old discussion anymore. Plus its not arguing its just opening up a subject on whether we have the some power as Jesus Christ and his disciples nowadays, or was it for an express purpose and that was it? or can people truly raise the dead using the authority of the lord Jesus Christ nowadays and to what purpose, has not the authority of the Lord already been established? Plus what is the point in raising the dead, (apart from Christ revealing himself to be God and the disciples affirming that indeed Jesus Christ to be who he says he is) for we that are saved it is far better to reach that ultimate goal. And not have someone bring us back? Oh no need for an answer to these questions for I will find out when I meet our Maker. God is good. God First.
As for Joyce Meyer she is a bit of a mixed bag, so I feel I would be careful not to take her to seriously, after all we put our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to be guided by the Holy Spirit for correction and understanding of Gods Word, His Will for His Creation. To put to much trust in man/woman can turn out not so good for some. God First always. Thanks for the chat Mr BlueLion Peace and Joy in the Lord Jesus Christ` name.

 

[Bluelion]

Simply objecting to Joyce Meyer's false teaching about approaching Satan and speaking to him. It could get people into trouble.

your making up an objection to object to. She never said approach satan you said that. so your going to put words in her mouth and then condemn her for your words? how does that work? what she said was if satan was going to speak to you you better learn how to speak back, and that is true Jesus taught us that. She then gave how she speaks which again is what Jesus does in Heaven but not what we are to do here on earth.

and you never answer my questions what part of what i said did you object to?

 

[Bluelion]

Good to raise the bar a little sometimes, most just never engage in a good old discussion anymore. Plus its not arguing its just opening up a subject on whether we have the some power as Jesus Christ and his disciples nowadays, or was it for an express purpose and that was it? or can people truly raise the dead using the authority of the lord Jesus Christ nowadays and to what purpose, has not the authority of the Lord already been established? Plus what is the point in raising the dead, (apart from Christ revealing himself to be God and the disciples affirming that indeed Jesus Christ to be who he says he is) for we that are saved it is far better to reach that ultimate goal. And not have someone bring us back?
As for Joyce Meyer she is a bit of a mixed bag, so I feel I would be careful not to take her to seriously, after all we put our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ to be guided by the Holy Spirit for correction and understanding of Gods Word, His Will for His Creation. To put to much trust in man/woman can turn out not so good for some. God First always. Thanks for the chat Mr BlueLion Peace and Joy in the Lord Jesus Christ` name.

well sense you did not answer my questions I will not answer yours.

 

[now faith]

You would think ,people are more concerned with Joyce Meyer's than Satan.

Bells whistles and flags go up if you mention Word of Faith, no surprise that Satan is the accuser of the saints.

 

[nonaeroterraqueous]

Good to raise the bar a little sometimes...

...its just opening up a subject on whether we have the some power as Jesus Christ and his disciples nowadays, or was it for an express purpose and that was it? or can people truly raise the dead using the authority of the lord Jesus Christ nowadays and to what purpose, has not the authority of the Lord already been established? Plus what is the point in raising the dead....

It actually sounds more like you're lowering the bar on that one.

John 14:12

Your argument sounds like our faith in Christ has not empowered us. That's an understatement of your actual position, I'm sure, but you do imply that God has not given us the power to resist the devil.

James 4:7

Whether that means shouting back at the devil and then not following him, or whether that means gritting your teeth and simply not succumbing to temptation while hearing his accusations, I think I'd feel a lot better about the aggressive method rather than the passive one. Would you rather resist the devil with scripture and your own determination, or would you rather just resist the devil with your own determination? I see no reason why a person would be worse-off being armed with scripture. You certainly shouldn't be relying on yourself.