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Ah, so it's overwhelming unless... it isn't.That isn't what the Bible teaches. The Bible tells us that those who aren't overwhelmed aren't overwhelmed due to very sinister reasons.
It's the difference between legs and running, a calculator and calculating, a brain and thinking.Do you acknowledge the difference between your material body and your non-material mind and that both exist in reality?
Then it should be possible to present and reasonably analyse this "cogent reasoning [that] compels us".They are established as solid facts because cogent reasoning compels us to view them that way. The fact that Jesus, the Bible and the Apostles agree are added benefits.
Ah, so it's overwhelming unless... it isn't.
So what are the 'very sinister' reasons?
[I suspect it'll be a Catch-22, like when Orr says Appleby has flies in his eyes. When Yossarian asks how Appleby doesn't know that, Orr says, "Because he’s got flies in his eyes; how can he see he's got flies in his eyes if he's got flies in his eyes?"]
Then it should be possible to present and reasonably analyse this "cogent reasoning [that] compels us".
But what we get when we ask for it is mostly "there is compelling reason. We should not have to go through any 'proof', because there is compelling reason.", and in the few cases where this "compelling" reasoning it presented, any criticism is wiped away with "you should just accept it, your excuses are invalid. It says here it is compelling, so either for God's sake be compelled or I accuse you of having nefarious reasons."
It is really sad that you can't see it.
But this is all contingent on accepting the religious belief in the first place, so cannot be used to rationally support that belief....As for giving up of humanity, humanity was created with the sole purpose of serving its maker, so atheists are the ones casting aside this duty and in the process casting aside what it truly means to be human.
It's the difference between legs and running, a calculator and calculating, a brain and thinking.
The mind is the term used to describe the high-level processes that are the activity of a material brain, i.e. the mind is what the brain does.
But this is all contingent on accepting the religious belief in the first place, so cannot be used to rationally support that belief.
One might just as well say that, "atheism is the freedom from the pernicious influence of beliefs in the fictions of gods and the supernatural, so religious believers are wasting their lives and humanity in the pointless worship of such fictions".
It's not an argument, just an assertion of belief.
But this is all contingent on accepting the religious belief in the first place, so cannot be used to rationally support that belief.
One might just as well say that, "atheism is the freedom from the pernicious influence of beliefs in the fictions of gods and the supernatural, so religious believers are wasting their lives and humanity in the pointless worship of such fictions".
It's not an argument, just an assertion of belief.
Do you acknowledge the difference between your material body and your non-material mind and that both exist in reality?
Science without belief in anything at all is lobotomized. Weird concept you just postulated amigo.
That wasn't a counter-argument, just a paraphrase of your claim and a simple question.You consider the things you believe as based on overwhelming evidence and yet they don't convince everyone do they? So you see, even in your attempted counterarguments you seem to display a certain penchant for selective vision.
It depends on what you mean by "non-material mind". The way you use it I probably reject its existance, its just imagination.
What does atheism profit you?
Bringing of western civilization means bringing order. Let's say that I wonder why the average Indian in the city while waiting for his train wears his typically western wardrobe.
Learning, observing and reasoning have nothing against religion.
Christian mores and morality civilized all the regions you mentioned.
I haven't asserted a belief. My position is one of not being persuaded that the supernatural and/or God is more than a fiction.From our standpoint your position is a mere assertion of belief and not a fact and is contingent on accepting your irrational unjustifiable atheist assumptions so they can't be used to support your belief.
It's the difference between legs and running, a calculator and calculating, a brain and thinking.
The mind is the term used to describe the high-level processes that are the activity of a material brain, i.e. the mind is what the brain does.
From our standpoint your position is a mere assertion of belief and not a fact and is contingent on accepting your irrational unjustifiable atheist assumptions so they can't be used to support your belief.
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