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Why don't they just come clean, and say nothing would convince them?
You are conflating atheism and metaphysical naturalism.Exactly. Nothing could convince an atheist, because for them it is axiomatic that, come what may, there must always be a naturalistic explanation.
Because we are describing our actual positions, not the positions you would prefer us to hold.Why don't they just come clean, and say nothing would convince them?
...and "sperm in anus".Don't forget babies - for some reason they're evidence of god as well.
You are conflating atheism and metaphysical naturalism.
Because we are describing our actual positions, not the positions you would prefer us to hold.
I thought your god is all-knowing? So your god absolutely knows what would convince me but so far hasn't done any of it.
Can we turn that around?Exactly. Nothing could convince an atheist, because for them it is axiomatic that, come what may, there must always be a naturalistic explanation.
Why don't they just come clean, and say nothing would convince them?
I'm sorry I missed that post. And by sorry, I mean glad I've been skipping over them....and "sperm in anus".
So it implies a lack of belief in gods or maybe a belief in certain types of them? That doesn't exactly narrow things down.No I am not, metaphysical naturalism implies atheism, or at the very least deism.
Can we turn that around?
Claim "Hey, look, I have the ultimate proof that God doesn't exist. Unrefutable, undeniable proof!"
"So, what is it?" a Christian might ask.
"Well, you wouldn't accept it, whatever it might be, so I won't tell you." we will smugly respond.
Then it's not my problem.
If somebody keeps demanding evidence, it is their problem to state what the evidence they keep demanding would look like - or else admit that there is nothing that would convince them.
So it implies a lack of belief in gods or maybe a belief in certain types of them? That doesn't exactly narrow things down.
Be that as it may (you may want to talk with Michael about it)...but atheism doesn´t imply metaphysical naturalism - THAT was the error your false statement was founded upon.No I am not, metaphysical naturalism implies atheism
I have no idea how I am supposed to define something that I don't even believe exists.
Be that as it may (you may want to talk with Michael about it)...but atheism doesn´t imply metaphysical naturalism - THAT was the error your false statement was founded upon.
Yes, but then again accepting the Nicene Creed isn´t a requirement for being a theist (and thus, not accepting it doesn´t make you an atheist).I think Michael would have big problems squaring his position with the Nicene Creed.
Because here we have a thread started by a guy who promised to prove God´s existence. So it was him who set the bar.If you don't even know what it is you are demanding evidence for, why do you keep demanding it.
If you don't even know what it is you are demanding evidence for, why do you keep demanding it. For that matter, if you don't even know what it is that you want evidence for, how can you have any opinion at all about whether or not it exists - for or against?
If you don't even know what it is you are demanding evidence for, why do you keep demanding it. For that matter, if you don't even know what it is that you want evidence for, how can you have any opinion at all about whether or not it exists - for or against?
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