How to get to heaven when you die

[deornie]

Well i do not understand why they left this thread in Friendship forums anyways...

 

[psalms 91]

yes

 

[StarSapphire]

Here is what God has to say about that:

Mt 7:21 ¶ Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

It is God's will that we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior. Going to church does NOT make you a child of God. We are only His children if we have a relationship with Him. The only way to have a relationship with Him is to receive Jesus Christ as Savior. Don't believe me, believe the bible.

Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
(KJV)

Joh 10:1 ¶ Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

There is no other way to heaven other than Jesus Christ.

I appreciate what you are saying. In case you didn't notice, I have a Christian (Lutheran) icon. I know this already. You're preaching to someone who has already been saved by God. I've been baptized, Confirmed, and attend church very regularly, and have been in the choir, and on the Board of Evagelism in my church. When the doors are open, I'm there serving our Lord.

I'm just saying your tone is a bit much, and would put someone off if they were searching for the truth, but didn't know where to begin, or perhaps are a bit confused with it. For evangelizing, it is far more important to show the love of Jesus to people on the street. If a person is sinful, and broken, and in need of some help with understanding what they must do to become a child of God, THEN you can tell them about their sinfulness, and what Jesus has done for everyone's sins. You have to know where their attitude is before you can evangelize them.

 

[wykael]

^ I agree with most of what you are saying. Letting Jesus show through you, in both love and peace, is very important. It's something we all need to try to do every minute of every day. Unfortunately, I can think of a couple of incidents recently where I failed. I know I am forgiven, but the damage is done with the other individuals involved (nobody here, as far as I know).

I will say, though, that sometimes speaking up and being straight forward about the Lord is important as well. After all, those who oppose Christianity do it. That's why our country is in the state it is in! They speak up, and push their agenda. We keep quiet and just try to be peaceful and loving. And as a result, laws are passed. Decisions are made. And Christianity ends up downtrodden. We need to stand up for our faith sometimes as well. Stand up for our beliefs. Stand up for our God.

 

[I_are_sceptical]

I would like an article that backs up this statement. I tried to find something to support this and I found nothing... It appears this is untrue.

In accordance with the staff decision that the Baha'i vs. Christianity debate is inappropriate for Friendship Court, I have responded to this in the "complaint" thread. You can find a link in post 232 on this thread.

 

[XFRODOBAGGINSX]

I appreciate what you are saying. In case you didn't notice, I have a Christian (Lutheran) icon. I know this already. You're preaching to someone who has already been saved by God. I've been baptized, Confirmed, and attend church very regularly, and have been in the choir, and on the Board of Evagelism in my church. When the doors are open, I'm there serving our Lord.

I'm just saying your tone is a bit much, and would put someone off if they were searching for the truth, but didn't know where to begin, or perhaps are a bit confused with it. For evangelizing, it is far more important to show the love of Jesus to people on the street. If a person is sinful, and broken, and in need of some help with understanding what they must do to become a child of God, THEN you can tell them about their sinfulness, and what Jesus has done for everyone's sins. You have to know where their attitude is before you can evangelize them.

I don't agree. We are to tell people and let them deceid if they are going to receive it or not. If they don't want to hear it, then I don't believe that we should push it on them. They have the choice to leave or stay and listen, but if there are others who I can witness to, I will.

Mt 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear

Mr 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
(KJV)

 

[wykael]

^

I don't agree. We are to tell people and let them deceid if they are going to receive it or not. If they don't want to hear it, then I don't believe that we should push it on them. They have the choice to leave or stay and listen, but if there are others who I can witness to, I will.

Mt 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear

Mr 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
(KJV)

You know, that's all fine and dandy, but the results will be limited. Being in a sales job, and also having my owne business where relating to different types of people is important, I understand that different people will need to be approached differently. Some people you can slap in the face with what you want them to hear, and they will stand up and take notice. But others will turn tail and run, just from the approach. It may not be that they reject the message, but they don't stick around to listen simply because the person's demeanor causes them not to. You need to approach each interpersonal contact differently. Definitely introduce each person to God. But for some it may be several subtle conversations before the hardcore stuff comes out, and for others you may get straight to the bottom line. But you need to taylor your approach to the person you are speaking to. Take a minute. Figure out who you are talking to. Then proceed accordingly. Your goal isn't just to introduce God to as many people as possible. Your goal is to effectively introduce God to as many people as possible.

 

[XFRODOBAGGINSX]

^

You know, that's all fine and dandy, but the results will be limited. Being in a sales job, and also having my owne business where relating to different types of people is important, I understand that different people will need to be approached differently. Some people you can slap in the face with what you want them to hear, and they will stand up and take notice. But others will turn tail and run, just from the approach. It may not be that they reject the message, but they don't stick around to listen simply because the person's demeanor causes them not to. You need to approach each interpersonal contact differently. Definitely introduce each person to God. But for some it may be several subtle conversations before the hardcore stuff comes out, and for others you may get straight to the bottom line. But you need to taylor your approach to the person you are speaking to. Take a minute. Figure out who you are talking to. Then proceed accordingly. Your goal isn't just to introduce God to as many people as possible. Your goal is to effectively introduce God to as many people as possible.

I also own a business and have been in sales since I was 13 years old. If you want a lesson on how to give the gospel, read the gospels. My calling is to tell the masses the basics of the gospel. If you feel that you are called to do it on a more personal basis, that's great. I don't feel that I have been rude to anyone. I am not as personal as I would like to be at times for a few reasons:

1) I am extremely busy with other ministries which I need to continually attend to.

2) Some of the questions that I have received don't pertain to the post, they are merely comments.

3) I do try and answer theological questions as accurately as possible.

4) There are not enough hours in the day for me to build relationships with everyone that I witness to, it's simply not possible.

5) I don't think that someone needs to know me so intimately in order to understand the gospel and recieve it. It's not about them knowing me, it's about them knowing Jesus Christ.

Another problem with people who say things like you have just said is that they rarely ever even get around to giving the actual gospel to anyone, yet they criticize me for giving it. I will just follow what the word of God says.

I feel that the post is effective. If you don't agree, how can I improve the tract?

 

[wykael]

^ I'm sorry. I didn't want to seem like you were doing it wrong. I just meant that there are multiple ways to witness to somebody. Some will respond to how you do it, while others will need a more personal touch. I truly apologize if you felt I was criticizing. I didn't mean that at all.

 

[JPPT1974]

Also you can witness to people quietly by just your words having your words act by your actions as well as also being kind and friendly by showing your witness the way God would have want us to.

 

[XFRODOBAGGINSX]

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[VeronicasImage]

judge nobody while here on earth as it's a trial.be Christ like,love everyone and respect their right to worship,love your enemy..as hard as this can be..the roads wide open to Heaven

 

[JPPT1974]

Let the Lord be the judge of all of heaven and earth creatures and humans alike!!

 

[cygnusx1]

if you are in Christ you are already in heaven ...... you just don't see it yet....

 

[XFRODOBAGGINSX]

Positionally you are in heaven. You are not there physically yet obviously.

 

[JPPT1974]

Well at least you have your name in the Book of Life that's more important!

 

[revelations12_12]

Blessed are the meek

 

[BLUEEYEANGEL]

yes i am sure , there has been a time in my life , i was doing what blue wanted to do , not no more , you can not serve 2 masters ,

 

[Starr SDA Living Word]

Believe in Jesus All the way. That He died for you and me.

 

[suzybeezy]

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